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	<title>Comments on: blazoned arrangements</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:34:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>blazoned arrangements</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://typographi.com/000969.php#000969"&gt;Typographica presents&lt;/a&gt; their favorite &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redsun.com/type/abriefhistoryoftype/&quot;&gt;fonts&lt;/a&gt; of&lt;a href=&quot;http://abc.planet-typography.com/&quot;&gt; 2004&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:26:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Jesse Helms</dc:creator>		<category>typography</category>
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		<title>By: Robot Johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862682</link>	
		<description>Wow, those are gorgeous...  I&apos;m drooling.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:34:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Robot Johnny</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Quartermass</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862707</link>	
		<description>One day, I am going to learn about fonts.  Great link!

(Question: why are fonts so pricey?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:06:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Quartermass</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Slack-a-gogo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862708</link>	
		<description>Lots of great fonts with nice clean lines - nothing too gimmicky. I was really glad to see the inclusion of Ed Interlock from the Ed Benguiat Font Collection at House. All the fonts in that series look great, but since I have no practical use for a good font set outside of mix disc covers I can&apos;t justify paying the money to own a set for myself. And of course, I pick what is most likely the most gimmicky font from the list.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:06:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Slack-a-gogo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862720</link>	
		<description>Avenir is &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt; not the better Futura, but it&apos;s quite nice.  Crazy-mad props to Richard Lipton for Bickham Script Pro.  That must have been insanely difficult to get to kern right.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:12:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Civil_Disobedient</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: spock</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862748</link>	
		<description>May I just take this opportunity to say that Trebuchet turns my stomach. &amp;lt;/offtopic&amp;gt;

And I agree with C_D.
Bickham is wonderful! Now if I only had a web site to design on the subject of Civil War era penmanship.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:34:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>spock</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: anthill</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862762</link>	
		<description>Are these fonts all commercial?  What I really want is a big ol download link on that page for a zip file of the lot...

Does that make me a cheapskate?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:48:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tepidmonkey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862783</link>	
		<description>Quartermass: Fonts are pricey because of the incredible amounts of time that go into their creation. About half the time of making a solid, quality typeface goes into things that most end-users don&apos;t notice: for example, kerning (the process of going through a huge list of letter pairs and making sure the letterspacing looks right when the two glyphs are set next to one another, eg the letter e is often kerned to fit under the righthand whitespace of the uppercase T. This is considerably more difficult for script typefaces, since each glyph must connect to the next one.)

And this has to be done meticulously for every font in a family. A good type designer usually won&apos;t just use an automatic increase-weight or slant filter to produce bold and italic variants.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:07:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tepidmonkey</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: spock</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862792</link>	
		<description>Of the Honorable Mention fonts: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.optimo.ch/pages/departement/index.php?id_categorie=1&amp;id_font=9&quot;&gt;Didot Elder&lt;/a&gt; is waaay to clever for its own good. I like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stormtype.com/andulka.html&quot;&gt;Andulka&lt;/a&gt; (with the possible exception of the capital &quot;Q&quot;). I also like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teff.nl/fonts/lexicon/lexicon.html&quot;&gt;Lexicon&lt;/a&gt; but for the undersized lower-case &quot;a&quot; and the pidgeon-toed looking capital &quot;A&quot; and &quot;X&quot; (thanks to the positioning of the serifs). &lt;a href=&quot;http://letterheadfonts.com/contributors/tomkennedy/billhead.shtml&quot;&gt;Billhead&lt;/a&gt; is OUTSTANDING and I think I need to purchase THAT at once.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:23:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>spock</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: D.C.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862807</link>	
		<description>I like Typographica, but I wasn&apos;t impressed by a few of the choices in this list.  There are faces in the small &quot;honorable mentions&quot; list at the bottom that are far better than some of the ones showcased.

Quartermass, high-quality fonts suitable for book work and other professional design require a lot of time and skill to develop. Some designers take &lt;i&gt;years&lt;/i&gt; to refine a design until it&apos;s released. The devil&apos;s in the small details of weight, proportion, and spacing. It&apos;s easy to knock out a crappy display font (there&apos;s a ton of free ones online).

Postscript-based publishing has reduced the cost of fonts a lot and opened up the market for competition from small foundries. I do think that Avenir Next (and the other Linotype &quot;Next&quot; series fonts) are overpriced. ($995!!!)

&lt;i&gt;On preview, tepidmonkey beat me to it.&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:35:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D.C.</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Monk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862813</link>	
		<description>As much as I love Futura for headlines and signage, Avenir Next is better for setting body text as it includes small caps and a true italic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:40:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Monk</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: berek</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862824</link>	
		<description>UM, is it just me, or did we just have a post on this subject?
&lt;small&gt;
MetaFilter, all font, all the time.&amp;lt;small&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:01:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>berek</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Typographica</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862831</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Hallo. I finally wised up and joined the MeFi Nation.&lt;/small&gt;

Thanks for the linkage, Mr. Helms. A few responses:

spock - I think the lc &apos;a&apos; in the Lexicon preview is a victim of the screen-res rendering process and not what you&apos;d see in print. Enschede, the foundry that produced Lexicon, is one of the premiere foundries and I don&apos;t see them making a mistake of that magnitude. You should request their printed catalogs to get a better look at their work. Beautiful stuff.

D.C. - I&apos;m interested to hear which of the Honorable Mentions should have made the cut. It might help to know I developed the article by starting with a list that included of every font on that page and asked the writers to select their favorites. I&apos;d like to expand the idea next year with more contributors and hopefully a broader perspective.

On the $995 Avenir - It&apos;s easy to look at a font package&apos;s price tag without noticing the # of fonts you&apos;ll receive for that cost. Avenir Next is a pretty hefty bundle at 97 weights. When you check the $/font it starts to make more sense. That said, I wish they&apos;d break down the pack to more digestible chunks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:13:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Typographica</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: spock</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862837</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;UM, is it just me, or did we just have a post on this subject?&lt;/i&gt;

I thought so too, at first, but I&apos;m not finding one. It has been on HotLinks and del.icio.us for days though, so perhaps you saw it somewhere else. Or perhaps you are thinking of the comment that linked to Typographica in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/39848&quot;&gt;this discussion&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:21:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>spock</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: spock</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862844</link>	
		<description>PS... &quot;welcome&quot;, user Typographica!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:29:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>spock</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: luriete</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862850</link>	
		<description>As the founder and &quot;other&quot; (i.e., mostly silent) editor of Typographica, let me also welcome new user Typographica, and we both thank you, thejessehelms, for the props.

I am left out of this one as when Stephen passed around an email asking for favorite releases in 2004, I wrote him that I thought it had been a uniformly poor and unsurprising year for type design. I am glad to have been proven wrong.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:40:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>luriete</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862876</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Billhead is OUTSTANDING and I think I need to purchase THAT at once.&lt;/i&gt;

Ooh, didn&apos;t notice that one... looks like we&apos;ve finally got an 19th century type alternative to Bodoni.  W00t!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:43:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Civil_Disobedient</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ninthart</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#862907</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;UM, is it just me, or did we just have a post on this subject?&lt;/i&gt;

You, Sir, are &lt;i&gt;still&lt;/i&gt; a philistine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 02:40:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ninthart</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/39879/blazoned-arrangements#863014</link>	
		<description>welcome back, Senator</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 06:34:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>matteo</dc:creator>
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