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	<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2005 18:11:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Elements as Art</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://nedkahn.com/"&gt;Ned Kahn&lt;/a&gt; does &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cosc.org/vsc/exhibits/planetlands/default.asp&quot;&gt;really&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huntington.org/Information/ChildrensGarden.htm&quot;&gt;great&lt;/a&gt; things with &lt;a href=&quot;http://nedkahn.com/fire.html#firevortex&quot; title=&quot;The flame spirals up through the spinning outer core of the vortex, leaving a hollow calm in the center. The serpentine motion of the vortex is constantly influenced by air currents in the museum.&quot;&gt;fire&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://nedkahn.com/fog.html#infalling&quot; title=&quot;The artwork creates the impression of gases being drawn into a black hole.&quot;&gt;fog&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://nedkahn.com/sand.html#aeolian&quot; title=&quot;A fan blowing over fine glass beads sculpts an everchanging landscape of dunes, cliffs and avalanches&quot;&gt;sand&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://nedkahn.com/water.html#turbulent&quot; title=&quot;Even when the sculpture is left undisturbed, the fluid continues to flow for many hours. &quot;&gt;water&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://nedkahn.com/wind.html&quot;&gt;wind&lt;/a&gt;. Sadly, &lt;a href=&quot;http://nedkahn.com/water.html#wavespout&quot; title=&quot;The shape and power of the spray varied with the changing rhythms of the waves as well as with the tides and winds.&quot;&gt;some&lt;/a&gt; don&apos;t last.
&lt;small&gt;Heard on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wnyc.org/&quot;&gt;WNYC&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wnyc.org/studio360/show.html&quot;&gt;Studio 360&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2005 17:50:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>geekyguy</dc:creator>		<category>art</category>		<category>fire</category>		<category>fog</category>		<category>water</category>		<category>sand</category>		<category>wind</category>		<category>ned</category>		<category>kahn</category>
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		<title>By: Benny Andajetz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40226/Elements-as-Art#871811</link>	
		<description>Those are some of the coolest things I&apos;ve seen in a long time. I bet he really loves his job.

Thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2005 18:11:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dirtynumbangelboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40226/Elements-as-Art#871814</link>	
		<description>[This is good]

Thank you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2005 18:24:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mlis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40226/Elements-as-Art#871821</link>	
		<description>To the bookmarks! Thanks gg.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2005 18:35:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40226/Elements-as-Art#871832</link>	
		<description>OMG.  I wish I were him.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2005 18:54:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>five fresh fish</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: hippugeek</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40226/Elements-as-Art#871881</link>	
		<description>If you like nature-based art that&apos;s responsive to changing environmental conditions, check out Andy Goldsworthy&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/l/j/ljb199/Goldsworthy1.html&quot;&gt;scuplture/photography&lt;/a&gt;.  He does &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artincontext.org/LISTINGS/IMAGES/FULL/S/AH2N9OES.htm&quot;&gt;major&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sheepfolds.org/&quot;&gt;commissioned&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stormking.org/AndyGoldsworthy.html&quot;&gt;projects&lt;/a&gt; as well as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian/issues97/feb97/pebbles_jpg.html&quot;&gt;small-scale works&lt;/a&gt; that sometimes last only a few minutes.  There&apos;s a film, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/may2003/gold-m30.shtml&quot;&gt;&quot;Rivers and Tides,&quot;&lt;/a&gt; (description, oddly enough, on a socialist website) that shows him in action.  I spent the whole movie wishing I were him, fff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2005 21:11:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hippugeek</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40226/Elements-as-Art#871904</link>	
		<description>Pardon!  I didn&apos;t even express my gratitude for your links, geekyguy.  I&apos;d love to see some of the dynamic water ones in action, especially.

And a more offical &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skyline.uk.com/riversandtides/&quot;&gt;site&lt;/a&gt; for &quot;Rivers and Tides.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2005 21:47:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: medialyte</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40226/Elements-as-Art#871969</link>	
		<description>Nice stuff. I love this kind of thoughtful installation art.

Some of it is less than effective, though. I walk by &lt;a href=&quot;http://nedkahn.com/wind.html#windFence&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; at least a couple of times a week, and I hadn&apos;t ever noticed it as anything except a big metal structure. (We have several of these large, random &lt;a href=&quot;http://libweb.uoregon.edu/guides/architecture/oregon/xakbar.html&quot;&gt;hunks of metal&lt;/a&gt; on the U of O campus. Eugene is famous for some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ci.eugene.or.us/ASD/facilities/Public_Art/Pub_Art_Gallery/Image136.html&quot;&gt;bad public art&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 01:45:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NinjaPirate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40226/Elements-as-Art#871975</link>	
		<description>This is exactly the sort of link that made MetaFilter stand out when I first tripped over it, and the sort of link which has been sadly absent for months.

Thank you geekguy, fabulous, beautiful stuff.  It&apos;s going to influence my US itinerary substantially next time I&apos;m over.

If Kahn could only find a way of making &lt;a href=&quot;http://nedkahn.com/fire.html#fireVortex&quot; title=&quot;Fire Vortex&quot;&gt;some&lt;/a&gt; of these &lt;a href=&quot;http://nedkahn.com/fog.html#tornado&quot; title=&quot;Tornado&quot;&gt;installations&lt;/a&gt; as energy-friendly as the destroyed &lt;a href=&quot;http://nedkahn.com/water.html#wavespout&quot;&gt;Wavespout&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://nedkahn.com/wind.html#windVeil&quot; title=&quot;Wind Vale&quot;&gt;others&lt;/a&gt;, he might only be a few moments of contemplation away from Zen Grandmaster.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:06:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: geekyguy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40226/Elements-as-Art#872023</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m glad you all appreciated as much as I. I think the fire vortex is the coolest and if you are down with RealAudio listening to him describe the creation and his great fear once it was realized is great. Catch it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wnyc.org/stream/ram.py?file=studio360/studio030505a.ra&amp;start=&quot; 08:32.46&amp;end=&quot;17:29.17&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;strong&gt;medialyte&lt;/strong&gt; - I grew up in Eugene, c. 1975-1988. Perhaps that is why &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; appreciate it so.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 05:37:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kaseijin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40226/Elements-as-Art#872068</link>	
		<description>[this is good]

I really enjoyed his fog rings when I went to the Exploratorium in San Francisco. 

Though it lists his tornado machine as being in New York, there&apos;s another just like it at the Fort Worth Mueum of Science and History, right outside the Omni theater.  It&apos;s really a fun toy to play with -- you can disrupt the fog, and within seconds it&apos;s back in a column.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 07:36:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40226/Elements-as-Art#872086</link>	
		<description>I am &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt; tempted to build a fire vortex in my back yard.  Unfortunately, my town doesn&apos;t have the correct permits to allow such.  Heathen!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 08:01:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40226/Elements-as-Art#872089</link>	
		<description>Oh, and that globe with the mica-filled liquid: the Vancouver Space Science Centre had a similar sort of thing, as a rotating thick disc.  A buddy and I spent &lt;i&gt;at least&lt;/i&gt; forty-five minutes playing with it.  And, no, we weren&apos;t on any sort of drugs.  It was just that fascinating.

It would be relatively easy to build one.  I wonder where I&apos;d find a few kilos of fine-grained mica...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 08:03:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dirtynumbangelboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40226/Elements-as-Art#872169</link>	
		<description>Yep, there&apos;s one of those globes at the Ontario Science Centre in Toronto, too.  Right next to a fog vortex, presumably also by him.

(Torontonians, it&apos;s in the.. dammit!!!  I forget which hall.  Bottom level, I think... somewhere on the right hand side as you step off the escalators.  Or downscalators, as I call them.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:14:13 -0800</pubDate>
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