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	<title>Comments on: Training Hanoi Street Children</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 06:10:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Training Hanoi Street Children</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/03/09/opinion/edpaul.html"&gt;KOTO&lt;/a&gt; is a charity training restaurant for street children set up in 1996 in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.terragalleria.com/vietnam/vietnam.hanoi.html&quot;&gt;Hanoi&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lonelyplanet.com/mapshells/south_east_asia/vietnam/vietnam.htm&quot;&gt;Vie&lt;/a&gt;t&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lonelyplanet.com/destinations/south_east_asia/vietnam/&quot;&gt;nam&lt;/a&gt; by Vietnamese-Australian &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ausaid.gov.au/publications/focus/focuspdfs/winter03/focus_winter03_21.pdf&quot;&gt;Jimmy Pham&lt;/a&gt; (pdf file). &lt;br&gt;
Of the more than 100 or so former street kids who have learned cooking, waiting and bar skills, 100% of KOTO graduates have since become employed in hotels and restaurants in Hanoi. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.transitionsabroad.com/publications/magazine/0405/volunteer_in_hanoi_vietnam.shtml &quot;&gt;KOTO&lt;/a&gt; stands for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.streetvoices.com.au/default.htm&quot;&gt;Know One Teach One&lt;/a&gt; and they 
provide uniforms, accomodation, 
most meals and a small wage during the traineeship. &lt;br&gt;Even &lt;a href=&quot;http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Xa-hoi/Loi-song/2004/08/3B9D5D85/&quot;&gt;Bill Clinton&lt;/a&gt; ate there. &lt;br&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unicef.org.vn/street.htm&quot;&gt;Street children&lt;/a&gt; number something in the order of 20,000 or more in Vietnam 
and most head to the city from poor villages in the countryside, seeking their own slice of the wealth that transition to a market economy is said to generate. Most 
make little money shining shoes and selling postcards and many become involved in drugs, crime, prostitution or are harassed and arrested by the Police. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hoasuaschool.com/&quot;&gt;Hoa Sua&lt;/a&gt; restaurant is another exemplary training enterprise (French affiliation) run along similar lines to KOTO excepting that they also have bakery outlets and embroidery training. &lt;br&gt;
These organizations are hopeful examples of education combatting the cycle of poverty. &lt;br&gt; (&lt;strong&gt;Aside&lt;/strong&gt;: but no &lt;a href=&quot;http://health.news.designerz.com/agent-orange-lawsuit-wins-hearts-of-vietnamese-people.html?d20050309&quot;&gt; contribution &lt;/a&gt; to the Vietnamese economy will be &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4339419.stm&quot;&gt; forthcoming&lt;/a&gt; from U.S. chemical companies who supplied &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/ra/news/stories/s1321725.htm&quot;&gt;agent orange&lt;/a&gt; during the war)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 05:57:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>peacay</dc:creator>		<category>Vietnam</category>		<category>Hanoi</category>		<category>Street</category>		<category>Children</category>		<category>Restaurant</category>		<category>Training</category>		<category>Charity</category>
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		<title>By: drscroogemcduck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40352/Training-Hanoi-Street-Children#875775</link>	
		<description>There is no way you are going to get awarded compensation for being injured by an opposing party in a war.</description>
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		<title>By: darukaru</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40352/Training-Hanoi-Street-Children#875777</link>	
		<description>Interesting links, shame about the afterthought editorializing that is sure to get them ignored.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 06:17:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tpl1212</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40352/Training-Hanoi-Street-Children#875816</link>	
		<description>Ahh, how this FPP would have benefitted from a  &lt;strong&gt;[more inside]&lt;/strong&gt;...perhaps right after the second or third lines...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:10:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shoepal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40352/Training-Hanoi-Street-Children#875835</link>	
		<description>Great post, but definitely a candidate for [more inside] and DaruKaru makes a good point about the editorializing.  Thanks for the interesting story/links Peacay!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:44:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peacay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40352/Training-Hanoi-Street-Children#875918</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s no &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.answers.com/editorialize&quot;&gt;opinion&lt;/a&gt; expressed - it&apos;s just a statement of fact. The agent O stuff happened to have come up today was all - arguably it&apos;s too far off topic but people will read or not read whichever of the links they want.
Yeah...yeah.........forgot the [m i ] bit. Such is liff...next time.. next time...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:05:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: guruguy9</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40352/Training-Hanoi-Street-Children#875930</link>	
		<description>I have to say the Aside does taint your post with an aura of blame - even if you were just supplying further facts.  

Taint.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:14:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jeebus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40352/Training-Hanoi-Street-Children#876051</link>	
		<description>I visited the KOTO restaurant when I was in Hanoi a few years ago.  Definitely a great group with a great cause.  If you&apos;re ever out that way, stop for lunch.  They&apos;re in the center of the city, not far from the train station and some of the main budget hotels.

Jeebus</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:03:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: placebo_addict</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40352/Training-Hanoi-Street-Children#876079</link>	
		<description>I just joined metafilter, specifically to post for this thread.  My wife and I visited VietNam in 2003, and had the pleasure of dining several times at KOTO, and HoaSua in Hanoi as well as Sapa.  

The experience was memorable, the food delightful, and I can&apos;t say enough about the young people we got to know.  

Please make a point to visit if you ever visit VN.  Great cause, and visible results.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:25:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alsorises</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40352/Training-Hanoi-Street-Children#876093</link>	
		<description>I had dinner at Hoa Sua twice when in Hanoi last spring. The first time, there were one or two (copiously apologized-for) service mishaps, which were forgiven and forgotten as soon as the excellent food arrived. We actually canceled other plans later in the week in order to enjoy their &lt;i&gt;porc au caramel&lt;/i&gt; for a second time. We didn&apos;t visit KOTO, and if it&apos;s anything like Hoa Sua, I regret that we didn&apos;t know about it -- but now that I do, it&apos;ll be added to my (already extensive) list of excuses to go back to Viet Nam. Thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:41:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AnnaRat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40352/Training-Hanoi-Street-Children#876110</link>	
		<description>For those interested in supporting KOTO, they are still running their fundraising drive that allows you to buy a brick for their new premises and have your name put on it for $50 (and I believe that is Australian dollars).  You can check it out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.streetvoices.com.au/help.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:03:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peacay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40352/Training-Hanoi-Street-Children#877502</link>	
		<description>There is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://ourmaninhanoi.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;weblog&lt;/a&gt; by a volunteer Brit who is working at KOTO for 2 years. Definitely worth a read if you&apos;re interested.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2005 05:50:24 -0800</pubDate>
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