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  	<title>Literature</title>
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    <description>&quot;In every existing government we find clamor, abuses of power, newspapers with triumphant, lying headlines, lies of every kind in public life. This being the case, someone like me, who understands nothing of politics, is compelled to think about politics and despair of ever understanding it, is compelled to envision something entirely different.&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bu.edu/agni/essays-reviews/print/2002/55-ginzburg3.html&quot;&gt;Natalia Ginzburg,&lt;/a&gt; Member of the Italian Parliament, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1111/is_1849_308/ai_n6134254&quot;&gt;writer&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bu.edu/agni/essays-reviews/print/2002/55-ginzburg.html&quot;&gt;critic&lt;/a&gt;. </description>
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  	<title>By: delmoi</title>
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    <description>member of parliment, but &quot;understands nothing of politics&quot;.  Right...</description>
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  	<title>By: allan</title>
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    <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I &#8217;ve always found it rather strange that after an election, nearly all the party newspapers proclaim victory even if they&#8217;ve been defeated. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
She&apos;s right, she doesn&apos;t understand politics!
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Thinking and expressing oneself politically means thinking and expressing oneself with a specific purpose in mind.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If that&apos;s her definition, then she clearly does, since her essay has a specific purpose in mind, no? So she does understand politics!
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;But I also think that our personal happiness or unhappiness should not determine our political choices. What works quite well for us personally may not work at all well for others.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, no, I was wrong.  She doesn&apos;t.</description>
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  	<title>By: halcyon_daze</title>
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    <description>The quote to which you refer was taken from an essay written in 1972. Ginzburg was elected to the Italian parliament in &lt;a href=&quot;http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761581114/Natalia_Ginzburg.html&quot;&gt;1983&lt;/a&gt;.

It would be interesting to know what sort of understanding of politics she was able to derive from that experience, if it confirmed or changed her ideals. (Would be interesting to know that about a good many politicians!).</description>
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  	<title>By: y2karl</title>
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    <description>The late &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/nataliag.htm&quot; title=&quot;Italian novelist, essayist, translator and playwright, who has written of her unconventional family and its opposition in Turin to Fascist oppression. Ginzburg&apos;s novels are a mixture of reminiscence, observation, and invention. Much of her fiction is written in the first person in a plain style, and constructed almost entirely of dialogue. &quot;&gt;Natalia Ginzburg&lt;/a&gt; was also the mother of historian 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/36203&quot; title=&quot;October 12, 2004 On The Dark Side of History - The historian Carlo Ginzburg talks about his publications and his historical method of microhistory which he pioneered. Ginzburg&apos;s most famous work is The Cheese and the Worms: The Cosmos of a Sixteenth-Century Miller--here&apos;s a review from the Journal of Peasant Studies in pdf form. Simon Schama listed it among his favorite history books, saying How can you not love a book which takes the cosmology of a heretical 16th-century miller who believes that God created the world as a kind of indeterminate cheese from which came angelic worms, and makes you believe in its plausibility ? Domenico Scandella &#xad; known as Menocchio is now a hero in his ancestral village and the subject of Menocchio, a play by Elizabeth Groag. And here is a review of Ginzburg&apos;s The Night Battles: Witchcraft and Agrarian Cults in the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Centuries. See also The Benadanti, New Age Travellers and Medieval Night-Riders and On Hereditary Italian Witchcraft and Menocchio&apos;s Books--now there&apos;s an odd lot of fellow travellers. posted by y2karl at 1:16 AM PST (5 comments total)&quot;&gt;Carlo Ginzburg&lt;/a&gt;, who was a pioneer of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/m/mi/microhistory.htm#&quot; title=&quot;First developed in the 1970s, microhistory is the study of the past on a very small scale. The most common type of microhistory is the study of a small town or village. Other common studies include looking at individuals of minor import, or analysing a single painting. As the roots of major events are grounded in the actions of villagers these studies often have much large ramifications.&quot;&gt;microhistory&lt;/a&gt; and author of &lt;em&gt;The Cheese And The Worms&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;The Night Battles&lt;/em&gt;. 

&lt;small&gt;Ginzburg was elected to the Italian Parliament in 1983 as an independent left-wing deputy. Ginzburg has published memoirs, several dramas, essays, translations from such authors as Marcel Proust and Flaubert, and a biography of the poet and essayist Alessandro Manzoni, which reveals the failure of the great author as a father. - She died of cancer on October 7, 1991.

In her earliest writings Ginzburg consciously rejected any autobiographical style or elements, which she saw as characteristic of what she called &apos;feminine&apos; writing. She soon discovered that it was through writing her personal experiences in a fictionalized form that she succeeded best in expressing herself. Many of her works rely on memories of her childhood and youth in Turin. Recurrent characters are frustrated intellectuals and women living static lives. &lt;/small&gt;

Now, that is one intellectually high powered lineage.</description>
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