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	<title>Comments on: kettlebell hype</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 04:17:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>kettlebell hype</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype</link>	
		<description>With &lt;a href=http://www.voimaharjoittelu.net/russian-kettlebell-challenge-sisallysluettelo-a-115.html&gt;girya&lt;/a&gt; or&lt;a href=http://www.russiankettlebells.com/&gt; kettlebell&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=http://www.kettlebell-training.com/archives/getting_started/index.html&gt;training&lt;/a&gt; you can&lt;a href=http://www.dragondoorfaq.com/&gt; hack&lt;/a&gt; the fat off without the dishonor of diet and aerobics&lt;a href=http://ejmas.com/pt/ptart_brennan_0103.htm&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 03:48:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the cuban</dc:creator>		<category>exercise</category>		<category>fitness</category>		<category>hype</category>		<category>russia</category>
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		<title>By: uncanny hengeman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#892626</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 04:17:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>uncanny hengeman</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: yoga</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#892629</link>	
		<description>Thanks for the link! Adios, dumbbells.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 04:47:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>yoga</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#892641</link>	
		<description>Are they really superior to ordinary hand weights?&amp;lt;/possibly naive question</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:20:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>orange swan</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: the cuban</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#892642</link>	
		<description>Some folk &lt;a href=&quot;http://ejmas.com/pt/ptart_brennan_0103.htm&quot;&gt;don&apos;t&lt;/a&gt; think so...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:21:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the cuban</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: th3ph17</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#892656</link>	
		<description>won&apos;t help me much unless they work as a firefox plugin.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:48:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>th3ph17</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sudasana</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#892668</link>	
		<description>Cool - kinda reminds me of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yalon.com.tw/fivesu/pic/046.gif&quot;&gt;shisuo&lt;/a&gt;, the Chinese equivalent, which was modeled after a traditional padlock.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:20:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sudasana</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mygothlaundry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#892676</link>	
		<description>That before &amp;amp; after pic in the 4th link is downright disturbing. Okay he got all muscular but what happened to his chest hair?!?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:37:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: substrate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#892681</link>	
		<description>A weight is a weight is mass. If you move the weight you&apos;re expending exercise and shredding your muscle. Do this enough and you&apos;ll lose weight and build muscle mass. There are some differences between doing weights with a machine v.s. free weights (with free weights there&apos;s balancing involved, even for things like curls, you have to maintain overall balance and you have to balance whatever part is extended so free weights will involve more muscles than any machine I&apos;ve tried).

If your form is constant there shouldn&apos;t be a difference between kettle weights and barbells. For instance if you do squats with kettle weights or barbells the effect on your legs will be identical if you use identical weight, sets and reps. If with the barbell you rest it on your shoulders while with the kettle bells you hang them at your sides there would be some difference to your arms.

I happened to run into kettle bells while looking up something last week and I think I understand why this would seem to be a more efficient manner of exercising if fat loss is your goal: high repetitions.  Your body can generally expend more energy doing high repetitions of lower weights than it can expend doing low repetitions of high weight. With heavy weights once your main muscles are depleted you&apos;re done unless you ramp down the weight which most people don&apos;t do. You can&apos;t safely do more repetitions with the same weight.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:38:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>substrate</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: leapfrog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#892691</link>	
		<description>In Soviet Russia, weight lifts you! (/me dons asbestos suit)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:48:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>leapfrog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: substrate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#892764</link>	
		<description>expending exercise should be expending energy</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:26:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: x_3mta3</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#892940</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been doing these for two months now. These are by far the best work out tools I have ever used, and one of the simplest. Doing these exercises two to three times a week, and not much else, in the last two months has dropped my run time in the mile-and-a-half by over a minute. A workout with kettlebells is a full body work out; you are not isolating any particular group you are including many major muscle groups into one exercise. The KB is very versatile, and there many different exercises you can do with it. I challenge anyone who looks at these and scoffs at them to find someone with a set and try to stick it out for a one-hour workout. It looks simple, but by the end of the workout you will see how amazing these things are. One of my friends was poking a little bit of fun at me for doing these workouts so I had him come out and do one. He barely made it to the end using a 12Kg KB.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Capn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#893009</link>	
		<description>Marketing technique:  
1. purchase 2 or 3 MF accounts
2. Create slightly wacky product page
3. Use one account to post a &quot;hey, look at this wackiness&quot; link
4. Use other accounts to post &quot;no, seriously, I&apos;ve used this and it worked&quot; responses

I&apos;m not sayin&apos; this is what&apos;s going on... I&apos;m just sayin&apos; is all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:46:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Capn</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#893075</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;that really, really wasn&apos;t worth it, leapfrog.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:26:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>five fresh fish</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: x_3mta3</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#893121</link>	
		<description>Capn, though I have no way to prove it, I can assure you I have no idea who The Cuban is. If I was trying to market them I probably would have told you to jump right out and buy one, preferably from a site where I would make the money off of it, but I didn&apos;t. I seriously have been doing these for a while now, and they really are great. That&apos;s all I&apos;m going to say.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:51:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>x_3mta3</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: vorfeed</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#893299</link>	
		<description>These seem awfully expensive compared to dumbbells. At $90 for a 26-pounder, they&apos;d have to be about five times more effective than a pair of 20 pound dumbbells to make up for their cost. They&apos;re pretty cool-looking, though, and the workout looks fun. Call me when Big 5 has them in stock for $30.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:15:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>vorfeed</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: spazzm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#893461</link>	
		<description>$90 for 26 pounds of low-grade cast iron?

I was sceptical before, now I&apos;m sure: This is bollocks.

High-quality barbell plates sell at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irongrip.com/products/pricelists_igx.asp&quot;&gt;$1/lb&lt;/a&gt;, scrap iron is even cheaper.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:11:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spazzm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#893467</link>	
		<description>Scrap iron/steel costs &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.recycle.net/specs/gr040520.html&quot;&gt;about 8 cents/lb.&lt;/a&gt;

Go to your local welder/mechanic/junkyard and tell them what you want. Show them a drawing. Explain to them that this is alledgedly what the Spetznas (sp?) used to get fit.

Maybe they&apos;ll knock you out one for free, just because you&apos;re funny. Maybe you can pay them with a bottle of Vodka.
That would be the &lt;b&gt;real&lt;/b&gt; russian way.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:18:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>spazzm</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: the cuban</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#893769</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been a member here since 2001, dont know x_3mta and have no financial interest in Kettlebells.


I&apos;m The Cuban and endorse this message</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:32:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the cuban</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: asok</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/40847/kettlebell-hype#893828</link>	
		<description>You end up looking like a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dragondoorfaq.com/dragondoor/home.htm#news&quot;&gt;lobster&lt;/a&gt;anyway. Is this attractive to people?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 02:48:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>asok</dc:creator>
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