Comments on: The Making of the Twenty-First-Century Soldier (Part 1)

The Making of the Twenty-First-Century Soldier (Part 1)

kirkaracha — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 14:36:39 -0800

The Making of the Twenty-First-Century Soldier (Part 1) "In which a dope-smoking, valet-parking skateboarder living at home makes his way into the infantry, and into Iraq." By Colby Buzzell, author of the My War weblog we've discussed previously. The Army Times mentioned his blog in a recent article on weblogs by military personnel. Buzzell stopped posting personal accounts to the weblog after getting busted by the Army (Google caches are still available), but he's writing a book.

By: bonaldi

bonaldi — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 15:06:16 -0800

your first link points to the sixth page of the article, not the first. It's like a self spoiler, or something. Boo.

By: 327.ca

327.ca — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 15:15:11 -0800

Here we go. First page. (I can't believe someone would post to complain, but not bother posting the correct link.)

By: bonaldi

bonaldi — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 15:19:49 -0800

Can't uninvent the bomb. Spoiler's a spoiler. Can't believe someone wouldn't bother looking up a name.

By: uni verse

uni verse — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 16:01:59 -0800

So the point of contention was his prior drug use?

By: kirkaracha

kirkaracha — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 16:18:28 -0800

Sorry, the first link should go to the first page of the article.

By: BarePaw

BarePaw — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 16:59:51 -0800

"I completely bombed on the math part of the test, like I'm at a seventh-grade dum-dum level, but my written and word comprehension was okay, so it kinda jacked my score up a lot. " Either his writing has deteriorated considerably since then, or the military is letting anyone pass.

By: A-Train

A-Train — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 17:57:44 -0800

Hmmm. I seem to recall recent mention that literacy in general has dropped. The link makes special mention of its discovery in the army: WWII was over in 1945. Six years later another war began in Korea. Several million men were tested for military service but this time 600,000 were rejected. Literacy in the draft pool had dropped to 81 percent, even though all that was needed to classify a soldier as literate was fourth- grade reading proficiency. In the few short years from the beginning of WWII to Korea, a terrifying problem of adult illiteracy had appeared. The Korean War group received most of its schooling in the 1940s, and it had more years in school with more professionally trained personnel and more scientifically selected textbooks than the WWII men, yet it could not read, write, count, speak, or think as well as the earlier, less-schooled contingent.

By: Sangermaine

Sangermaine — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 18:08:12 -0800

A-Train, This is just speculation, but could it be that after WWII the military was looked upon less and less as a viable, respectable career or even life choice for those in the middle/upper class, and has come to be viewed as a road for the poor or uneducated to move up? It seems like prior to WWii, even the sons of wealthy families might be expected to sign up for service as a mark of honor or service to the country, but that idea doesn't really hold as much sway anymore.

By: mischief

mischief — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 18:29:23 -0800

Since he got busted by the Army for his blog, I will concede he is an actual soldier. However, while reading that article, I felt the definite need to pull on some boots to wade through the bullshit. You've heard, "Tell it to the Marines!"? Well, this Marine says that doughboy is more than a bit of a weasel. However, I will grant him the following: "The Marines wanted virgins, and the Army wanted quantity, not quality." Yup! ;-P

By: mono blanco

mono blanco — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 18:43:03 -0800

Sangermaine, the draft continued from WWII to 1973. Although there might have been some difference in socioeconomic factors in inductees between WWI and the Korean War, it probably wasn't enough to account for such a large change in literacy rates.

By: Satapher

Satapher — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:42:41 -0800

sangermarine, mono blanco: TV, stupids.

By: kickingtheground

kickingtheground — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 20:03:11 -0800

anemone, the draft continued from WWII to 1973. Although there might have been some difference in socioeconomic factors in inductees between WWI and the Korean War, it probably wasn't enough to account for such a large change in literacy rates.

Wouldn't many of those who fought in the Korean war be either: 1) kids who grew up during WWII, who had their fathers and older brothers oversees, their mothers working shifts at the munitions plant, and their thoughts on whether or not the war would end by the time it was their turn to go? (Not to mention that the schools they attended were presumably starved of funding and staff by the war effort.) 2) Veterans of WWII, who found the educational benefits (and job prospects) available to them sufficiently unappealing that they chose to stay in the service. Seems to me both groups might have comparatively low literacy rates, and that might explain the decline in overall rates.

By: kickingtheground

kickingtheground — Sun, 03 Apr 2005 20:04:12 -0800

~~anemone~~Sangermaine, the draft continued from WWII to 1973. Although there might have been some difference in socioeconomic factors in inductees between WWI and the Korean War, it probably wasn't enough to account for such a large change in literacy rates.

/stupid spell checker

By: me & my monkey

me & my monkey — Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:17:23 -0800

Either his writing has deteriorated considerably since then, or the military is letting anyone pass. The Army isn't looking for writers, you know.

By: Ayn Marx

Ayn Marx — Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:19:12 -0800

The Army isn't looking for writers, you know. Nor, apparently, is Esquire.