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	<title>Comments on: Another one bites the dust!</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:54:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Another one bites the dust!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.easytree.org"&gt;Easytree.org has been shutdown.&lt;/a&gt; Easytree, for those unfamiliar, was a tracker site for legal (apparently not) live music and video bit torrents, similar to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.archive.org/audio/etree.php?PHPSESSID=111f37ee7054f700251c200dfd1bf645&quot;&gt;Archive.org&apos;s Live Music&lt;/a&gt; collaboration with &lt;a href=&quot;http://db.etree.org&quot;&gt;etree.org&lt;/a&gt;.  Other discussions of File-sharing on MeFi (specifically the MGM vs. Grokster SCOTUS case) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/40965&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/40787&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. [more inside]</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:47:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>schyler523</dc:creator>		<category>BitTorrent</category>		<category>Music</category>		<category>OpenSource</category>		<category>File-Sharing</category>		<category>Video</category>
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		<title>By: schyler523</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899304</link>	
		<description>Good news for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/38615&quot;&gt;Ween Fans&lt;/a&gt; though.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.browntracker.net/&quot;&gt;Browntracker&lt;/a&gt;, a tracker specifically for Ween audio and video, is up and running.  Those not fond of Ween, can visit &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thetradersden.org/&quot;&gt;The Trader&apos;s Den&lt;/a&gt;, though it seems as if that site is on it&apos;s last legs as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:54:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: schyler523</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899306</link>	
		<description>Those wary of Bit Torrent can try &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.furthurnet.com/&quot;&gt;FurthurNet&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:56:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quartermass</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899315</link>	
		<description>Noooo!!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 22:08:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sien</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899329</link>	
		<description>I too cut the heads off hydras.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 22:19:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kuatto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899340</link>	
		<description>This is kind of a let down, especially after Sharing the Groove went down. I know some people didn&apos;t care for STG, but I loved the dvd torrents and the mix of music.

...and now Easytree is down? *sigh* What is the world coming to?

Ok people, spill your guts! Where are your favorite sites?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 22:34:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cali</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899348</link>	
		<description>I recently bookmarked &lt;a href=&quot;http://thetechdomain.com/?p=40&quot;&gt;Top 10 Bittorrent Sites&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yotoshinews.com/&quot;&gt;yotoshi, the bittorrent search engine&lt;/a&gt; if those help anyone.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 22:44:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899373</link>	
		<description>Well, there goes largehearted boy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:38:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sjvilla79</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899400</link>	
		<description>Shut down or bought out? There&apos;s a &lt;b&gt;big&lt;/b&gt; difference.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 01:06:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899434</link>	
		<description>I am not sure who would be responsible for the cease and desist letter.  It is usually the bands themselves that own the copyright, not some recording company.  Most bands don&apos;t seem to care that their concerts are traded.  It&apos;s not like they are trading commercially released albums.  The site took some pains to keep that sort of stuff away.  This is typically material that otherwise would not be available. Oh, and we are talking shut down, not bought out.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:25:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LouReedsSon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899444</link>	
		<description>sigh...  I was huge up/downloader there.  Besides the pains to keep illegal stuff off their site, Easytree really did its best to control the sound quality of shows offered.  There was a feeling of community there.

I curse the powers that fuck with such.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 05:01:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LouReedsSon</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899460</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;It is usually the bands themselves that own the copyright, not some recording company.&lt;/i&gt;

There&apos;s some technicality about the song publishers. Whether it&apos;s a valid technicality or not, I don&apos;t know. But it would take resources that song traders don&apos;t generally have to challenge it. The Clash bootleg download site that I used to frequent (&quot;If Music Could Talk&quot;) was shut down by copyright holders-- the issue was the use of the songs, not the actual files (if that makes any sense). And I&apos;m inclined to believe that the legal forces weren&apos;t &lt;i&gt;de facto&lt;/i&gt; representing Mick Jones or the Strummer estate-- both men are on record as being proponents of file trading.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 05:26:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mayor Curley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: LunaticFringe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899502</link>	
		<description>One word: &lt;a href=&quot;http://exeem.com/&quot;&gt;exeem&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 06:42:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PinkStainlessTail</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899510</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;One word: exeem&lt;/em&gt;

Two words: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.exlite.pl/&quot;&gt;exeem lite&lt;/a&gt;

(haven&apos;t used either myself, heard the network is kinda sucky for the sort of stuff I&apos;m looking for)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 06:51:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PinkStainlessTail</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: docgonzo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899657</link>	
		<description>Gah -- I&apos;d picked up a number of fine field recordings of His Bobness there. On to the next...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:20:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smackfu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899686</link>	
		<description>I wish there was more info.  Do they think they were legal or what?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:43:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>smackfu</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: schyler523</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899689</link>	
		<description>LouReedson, It shocked me too, I had just gotten my ratio past 2.00...I thought that easytree had more solid footing than your average torrent tracker site...

So, do you all think that eXeem is the future, the best of both worlds?  It is decentralized, negating the need for tracker sites.  I&apos;ve downloaded it, will give it a try...

It looks like I am able to finish any download I started on easytree before the trackers were killed.  Just no new seeders or leechers...stuck in this sad stasis.

On preview: Smackfu, i thought that they were fairly diligent about removing commercial or otherwise &quot;untradable&quot; files...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:49:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>schyler523</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: PinkStainlessTail</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899693</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;It looks like I am able to finish any download I started on easytree before the trackers were killed. &lt;/em&gt;

You probably already know this, but just in case:

DO NOT CLOSE YOUR CLIENT BEFORE THESE DOWNLOADS FINISH. Now that the trackers are down, you will not be able to reconnect to any of the seeds that are out there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:52:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PinkStainlessTail</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: schyler523</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#899703</link>	
		<description>I have no plans to shutdown my client...I happen to be downloading three very large Ween videos (8.65GB each) and do not want to lose them, as they are not yet on Browntracker...

Anyone use azureus&apos; host option?  As i understand it you turn a hosted torrent into a seed/tracker by revealing your IP to each downloader...feasible among friends, less so to the public...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:07:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>schyler523</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: LouReedsSon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#900052</link>	
		<description>eXeem doesn&apos;t appeal to me... Try bt.etree.org or The Traders Den.  Beyond that, I don&apos;t know much.  But I still praise the gods of bittorrent till the end! :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 16:29:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LouReedsSon</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Gankmore</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#900823</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;dimeadozen.org&quot;&gt;dimeadozen.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&apos;s going to be hard to kill this movement. code moves fast, laywers don&apos;t.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:18:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gankmore</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Gankmore</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#900830</link>	
		<description>er &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dimeadozen.org/&quot;&gt;dimeadozen.org&lt;/a&gt;. It&apos;s a new URL, afterall.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:21:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gankmore</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: schyler523</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41036/Another-one-bites-the-dust#901140</link>	
		<description>This is like Easter for me...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2005 02:24:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>schyler523</dc:creator>
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