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	<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:17:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>latera ecfututa</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03082002&quot;&gt;Can&apos;t hack&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/&quot;&gt;Catullus&lt;/a&gt; in &lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/l1.htm&quot;&gt;Latin&lt;/a&gt;?  How about &lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/brpor5.htm&quot;&gt;Brazilian Portuguese&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/c85.htm&quot;&gt;Catalan&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/m5.htm&quot;&gt;Chinese&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/dk5.htm&quot;&gt;Danish&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/d1.htm&quot;&gt;Dutch&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/e1.htm&quot;&gt;English&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/es2.htm&quot;&gt;Estonian&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/f1.htm&quot;&gt;French&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/g1.htm&quot;&gt;German&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/h1.htm&quot;&gt;Hungarian&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/ir5.htm&quot;&gt;Irish&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/i1.htm&quot;&gt;Italian&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/j85.htm&quot;&gt;Japanese&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/n5.htm&quot;&gt;Norwegian&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/p5.htm&quot;&gt;Polish&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/por7.htm&quot;&gt;Portuguese&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/ri1.htm&quot;&gt;Rioplatense&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/ro1.htm&quot;&gt;Romanian&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/r5.htm&quot;&gt;Russian&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/sc62.htm&quot;&gt;Scanned&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/sb5.htm&quot;&gt;Serbian&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/sa27.htm&quot;&gt;South African&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/sp1.htm&quot;&gt;Spanish&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/s5.htm&quot;&gt;Swedish&lt;/a&gt;, or
&lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/w85.htm&quot;&gt;Welsh&lt;/a&gt;?   You can also compare two languages side by side.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:40:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kenko</dc:creator>		<category>latin</category>		<category>catullus</category>		<category>poetry</category>		<category>poems</category>		<category>classics</category>		<category>translation</category>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902174</link>	
		<description>This is both beautiful and mind-boggling. Why would you spend the effort translating latin (a language with no native speakers) to welsh? Welsh is a language with effectively no native speakers that aren&apos;t also fluent in english.

I realize that sometimes you do something because you can, but man...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:17:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mayor Curley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Capn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902178</link>	
		<description>Catullus?  The first poet to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=03082002&quot;&gt;get his bone on&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:25:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the quidnunc kid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902188</link>	
		<description>This is brilliant - thanks kenko.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:35:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the quidnunc kid</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: kenko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902194</link>	
		<description>Capn, that&apos;s my first link.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:39:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kenko</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jack_mo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902228</link>	
		<description>Wow, wonderful stuff, well presented.

(I surprised myself by being able to read in the Latin poems I last looked at revising for Latin A-level a decade ago - had no idea that stuff was still in my head.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:27:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wolfdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902233</link>	
		<description>This is very cool, and if you need a break for lighter reading, try &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ie.lspace.org/books/toc/&quot;&gt;Terry Pratchett&lt;/a&gt; in Bulgarian,  Chinese, Czech, Croatian, ...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:34:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902327</link>	
		<description>OK, color me impressed.  Great find, kenko.  But it wouldn&apos;t be complete without the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.obscure.org/obscene-latin/&quot;&gt;Charles Bukowski Memorial Center for Classical Latin Studies&lt;/a&gt;.  &quot;The ancient Romans had lusty appetites; just like modern people, they seemed to have one thing on their minds.  The Charles Bukowski Memorial Center for Classical Latin Studies seeks to drag obscenity out of those dusty tomes and stick it right where it belongs.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:01:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Capn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902344</link>	
		<description>d&apos;oh, once again I am fooled by the link-per-word post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:19:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Capn</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: thebabelfish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902378</link>	
		<description>This site has been a great use to me during my Latin studies over the years.  It&apos;s a great way to check scansion when you&apos;re first starting out.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:59:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Araucaria</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902384</link>	
		<description>What, no Esperanto?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:03:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Araucaria</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: gambit</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902406</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;everyone should learn latin&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:20:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: naxosaxur</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902424</link>	
		<description>Out of all the poets we read in Latin, Catullus was my favorite, second to Horace.  They were so naughty! 

Virgil&apos;s Aeneid and Homer&apos;s Oddysee made me yawn, but H&amp;amp;C had the entire class laughing through every translation.  This is a gem! ...and &lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/e5.htm&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/e7.htm&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; are two of my favorite Catullus poems!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:42:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spazzm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902438</link>	
		<description>Poetry? In Swedish?
&lt;a href=&quot;http://runeberg.org/tegner/003.html&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;V&#228;l formar den starke med sv&#228;rdet sin v&#228;rld,
V&#228;l flyga som &#246;rnar hans rykten;
Men n&#229;gon g&#229;ng brytes det vandrande sv&#228;rd
Och &#246;rnarna f&#228;llas i flykten.
Vad v&#229;ldet m&#229; skapa &#228;r vanskligt och kort,
Det d&#246;r som en stormvind i &#246;knen bort.&lt;/i&gt; (clicky for rest)&lt;/a&gt;
Best. Poem. Ever.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:51:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spazzm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902471</link>	
		<description>(Thanks for that one, Wolfdog)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:20:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kattullus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41128/latera-ecfututa#902661</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t think I need to specify that yes, I do like me some Catullus

I like all his stuff, though some poems I have more fondness for. Lately the poem about &lt;a href=&quot;http://rudy.negenborn.net/catullus/text2/e63.htm&quot;&gt;Attis&lt;/a&gt; has been something I think about. The English translations almost never do it justice. First of all they don&apos;t change Attis&apos;s gender when he gets rid of his genitalia. Thankfully my copy from Wordsworth Classics is not so afflicted. Even if it&apos;s sometimes quite prudish in its translations of Catullus&apos;s cruder verse.

But yes, Catullus is a genius. Even his inventiveness and experimentation comes through, 2000+ years after he died. And his humor and feeling and wit and passion. One of the greatest poets of all times.

And yeah, Horace is a lot of fun. The one where he gets followed around by a bore is hilarious.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:41:53 -0800</pubDate>
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