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	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:16:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Things that go bump in the night.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/earthandsun/ice_berg_ram.html&quot;&gt;As predicted &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/38580&quot;&gt;previously discussed&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4460335.stm&quot;&gt;world&apos;s largest collision&lt;/a&gt; took place in Antarctica when a 115km (71mile) long iceberg collided with the Drygalski ice tongue in McMurdo Sound.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7283&quot;&gt;The resulting&lt;/a&gt; satellite &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/9999/99997283F1.JPG&quot;&gt;photographs&lt;/a&gt; show the results of the collision quite clearly, but somehow fail to convey the sheer scale of the event.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 04:40:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zardoz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910148</link>	
		<description>A somewhat better picture &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/9999/99996908F1.JPG &quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, also from New Scientist.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:16:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kattullus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910159</link>	
		<description>First of all: Wow! That&apos;s amazing.

Second: Oh no! &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn6908&quot;&gt;Starving penguins&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:24:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910167</link>	
		<description>Considering that the iceberg is just a little smaller than Long Islang (84 miles long), I am amazed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:42:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910170</link>	
		<description>I hate to say this, but my first thought was that it&apos;s an Absolut ad waiting to happen.

Can we break it up into smaller pieces? Should we?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:46:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brandon Blatcher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910175</link>	
		<description>What was stopping them from putting cameras on the berg and on land to record the collision?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:57:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ROU_Xenophobe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910177</link>	
		<description>The starving penguins.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:04:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chunder</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910179</link>	
		<description>Jeez - that&apos;s big. About twice as big as the Island on which I live. The mind boggles...

Imagine the noise it would have made?!  Strange that none of the articles seem to mention how fast the &apos;berg was moving - although they imply that the two &quot;smashed&quot; together...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:07:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Plutor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910185</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/41363#910148&quot;&gt;zardoz&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;&lt;i&gt;A somewhat better picture &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/9999/99996908F1.JPG _base_href=&quot; http://www.metafilter.com/&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, also from New Scientist.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;&lt;/small&gt;

That picture is from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6908&quot;&gt;January&lt;/a&gt;, when the iceberg ran aground.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:16:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AspectRatio</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910210</link>	
		<description>Won&apos;t someone think of the penguins??  The problem is, the fate of these penguins has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?ObjectID=3535350&quot;&gt;been at the mercy of this iceberg before&lt;/a&gt;... Then again, perhaps the US Coast Guard can once again save these penguins, as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=31&amp;art_id=qw1041221521374B253&amp;set_id=1&quot;&gt;they&apos;ve saved others before them&lt;/a&gt;.

And then... there&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?ObjectID=3560852&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:52:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chunder</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910235</link>	
		<description>Heh - the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.co.uk/search?meta=&amp;q=B15-A+iceberg&quot;&gt;Google locator thing&lt;/a&gt; gets confused when you search for any information about this iceberg...

It thinks I&apos;m after &quot;a iceberg&quot; in the locality of B15 (Birmingham, England) :-) Oops!

Anyway - I found out that it was travelling at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ecophotoexplorers.com/antarctica_news04.asp&quot;&gt;2km per day&lt;/a&gt;.  Not too fast, but *lots* of momentum... can&apos;t find anything that&apos;ll tell me the height of the ice protruding out of the water, but even if it&apos;s only 100m then that would imply that there&apos;s 3x10^11 cubic metres of ice above water (based on a surface area of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ecophotoexplorers.com/antarctica_news04.asp&quot;&gt;3,000 square kilometres&lt;/a&gt;).

If &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceberg&quot;&gt;90% of the ice is underwater&lt;/a&gt;, this means that there&apos;s 3x10^12 cubic metres of ice overall.

At &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_materials.htm&quot;&gt;919kg per cubic metre&lt;/a&gt;, this amounts to 2.8x10^15 kilograms of ice... gosh.

Of course, my maths/physics is a probably a bit rusty... but it strikes me that a collision involving a lump of ice this massive would do more than just cause a slight &quot;bump&quot;...

&lt;small&gt;As an aside, there&apos;s a whole load of worry that melting icebergs will cause sea levels to rise. But what about the consideration of the displacement of the sea by the ice. When the ice goes, the sea level will no longer be displaced as much, and thus the rise may not be as much.
Anyway, totally OT... this all just got me thinking :-)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:19:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: of strange foe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910242</link>	
		<description>AspectRatio, your third link reminded me of &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4460335.stm&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.

[/further off topic]</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:26:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: breath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910243</link>	
		<description>No, Chunder, the displacement is the same when it melts as when it&apos;s solid.  It displaces its own mass, and the mass doesn&apos;t change when it goes from solid to liquid.

It raised the sea level a little bit when it broke off the Ross ice shelf.  Previously it had been supported by land, and was not displacing as much.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:26:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nthdegx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910245</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.antarcticaonline.com/antarctica/history/history.htm&quot;&gt;Antarctic History&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:27:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910255</link>	
		<description>Mass doesn&apos;t matter so much.  It&apos;s the density and volume that we should be concerned with.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:35:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Pretty_Generic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910265</link>	
		<description>&quot;World&apos;s largest collision&quot;? I&apos;m sure the dinosaurs would disagree.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:45:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fshgrl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910290</link>	
		<description>Very interesting.  Sea ice is tremendously noisy in general, grinding and squeaking as well as a near constant low rumble as it moves.  The sound of a collision this big this must have been something else.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:18:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dfowler</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910294</link>	
		<description>Great post! So... if you press *your* tonge to the &lt;strong&gt;ice&lt;/strong&gt; tongue, will it stick forever?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:20:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bardic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910297</link>	
		<description>People get paid to track this stuff?  I want in!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:22:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: trinarian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910350</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://amrc.ssec.wisc.edu/images/gallery/B15Aedge.jpg&quot;&gt;woah&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:11:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DakotaPaul</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910385</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7283&quot;&gt;&quot;It was more&lt;/a&gt; of a bump in the night [than the] collision of the century,&quot; admits Mark Drinkwater, head of ESA&apos;s oceans and ice unit in The Netherlands.&lt;/i&gt;

Drinkwater. Heh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:37:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dr. Zira</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910394</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt; Great post! So... if you press *your* tonge to the ice tongue, will it stick forever?&lt;/em&gt;

Let&apos;s just hope the ice tongue doesn&apos;t collide with a flagpole.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:40:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BrotherCaine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910937</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2004AM/finalprogram/abstract_76375.htm&quot;&gt;Largest collision?&lt;/a&gt; How about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redtailcanyon.com/items/14810.aspx&quot;&gt;this?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:43:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AspectRatio</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#910942</link>	
		<description>Chunder... I was working on your calculations in my head... looking at all the cool scienti... [HEAD ALL ASPLOOOOOOOOOODE]</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:50:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Enron Hubbard</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/41363/Things-that-go-bump-in-the-night#912271</link>	
		<description>Did ya ever notice that &quot;scientists&quot; go on and on about some major disaster about to happen, only to have the &quot;disaster&quot; fizzle like a wet bottle rocket?

Now, what &lt;strong&gt;really &lt;/strong&gt;worries me is when they say &quot;Nothing to worry about here, folks.  Nothing can possibly go wrong.&quot;




(boom)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:32:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Enron Hubbard</dc:creator>
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