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	<title>Comments on: Big Coal on global warming</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2005 23:39:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Big Coal on global warming</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42072/Big-Coal-on-global-warming</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.cinergy.com/04sar/index.html"&gt;Coal-burning utility Cinergy&lt;/a&gt; includes 35 pages on global warming in its annual report. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cinergy.com/04sar/letter/01.html&quot;&gt;Letter from the CEO&lt;/a&gt;, interviews with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cinergy.com/04sar/listening/investors/d_furey_i1.html&quot;&gt;investors&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cinergy.com/04sar/listening/listening.html&quot;&gt;other stakeholders&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;small&gt;Via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/robert-f-kennedy-jr/facts-are-stubborn-things_1143.html&quot;&gt;Robert F. Kennedy Jr.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2005 23:00:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sourwookie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42072/Big-Coal-on-global-warming#934097</link>	
		<description>The reason they feel they need to address this is because &lt;em&gt;others&lt;/em&gt; are concerned (&quot;signposts&quot; 1-6). Go stakeholders, go!

Better too late than never, I suppose.</description>
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		<title>By: JPD</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42072/Big-Coal-on-global-warming#934112</link>	
		<description>Might be interesting if CIN had not just been bought by DUK for their coal-fired baseload capacity.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 00:07:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joedharma</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42072/Big-Coal-on-global-warming#934160</link>	
		<description>The acquisition of Cinergy by Duke could be a really good thing because Cinergy Chairman and CEO Officer Jim Rogers will become president and CEO of Duke Energy.  Rogers seems to be the guy behind the push to reduce GHGs at Cinergy.  So now potentially he has a much bigger company where he can apply his green (for a Utility Executive) philosophy.

Sounds like a good thing to me.  Too bad there aren&apos;t more electric utilities in the United States that are this forward-looking.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 02:33:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eriko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42072/Big-Coal-on-global-warming#934204</link>	
		<description>Exactly. If &quot;stakeholder concerns&quot; and &quot;oncoming legislation&quot; are what it takes, then that&apos;s what it takes.

I do congratulate Cinergy for being forward with this. They could have done what ExxonMobile is doing, but no, they&apos;re not going to fight the tide, they&apos;re going to surf.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 04:40:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nyterrant</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42072/Big-Coal-on-global-warming#934223</link>	
		<description>This development appears to be related to the fact that Rogers was one of several big-ticket speakers at a recent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unfoundation.org/features/2005_inst_investor_summit_climate_risk.asp&quot;&gt;UN institutional investor summit on climate change&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 05:22:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JPD</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42072/Big-Coal-on-global-warming#934314</link>	
		<description>Uhm if the deal was done for the coal chances are the new entity won&apos;t be real quick to shut it down.  And there is nothing that can be done about the amount of CO2 produced by a coal plant.

Also companies produce stuff like this all time.  It never means anything.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 07:31:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Danf</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42072/Big-Coal-on-global-warming#934726</link>	
		<description>Well compared to the Bush Administration&apos;s insistence that &lt;a href=http://www.climatebiz.com/sections/toolsresources_detail.cfm?LinkAdvID=42092&amp;Section=Tools%20%26%20Resources&gt;&quot;emissions intensity&quot;&lt;/a&gt; (which is greenhouse gas emissions indexed against economic production, in which a given site and show a lowering of emissions intensity, while STILL increasing the total release of greenhouse gasses-I am not making this up) is a valid concept for evaluating this issue, it is a breath of fresh air, as it were.

Even if it&apos;s empty rhetoric.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 13:47:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: russilwvong</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42072/Big-Coal-on-global-warming#934875</link>	
		<description>&quot;... it is a breath of fresh air, as it were.&quot;

Yep. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.westernfuels.org/&quot;&gt;Coal suppliers&lt;/a&gt; have been a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ucsusa.org/global_environment/global_warming/page.cfm?pageID=499&quot;&gt;major source&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://greeningearthsociety.org/&quot;&gt;astroturf global-warming denial&lt;/a&gt;, so it&apos;s nice to see one of their big customers facing the problem squarely. I also thought the discussion of global warming from a business/economic perspective was quite interesting.

It may be too late to prevent global warming, but it&apos;s never too late to stop making the problem worse.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 15:51:44 -0800</pubDate>
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