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	<title>Comments on: &quot;All I wanted to do was record how all those poor people adapted to lies and suffering&quot;</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 14:26:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>&quot;All I wanted to do was record how all those poor people adapted to lies and suffering&quot;</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0505/vanishing_thumbs.html"&gt;&quot;Maybe this world is another planet&apos;s hell&quot;.&lt;/a&gt; Photographer &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.viiphoto.com/photographer-bio.php?photographer=Antonin%20Kratochvil&quot;&gt;Antonin Kratochvil&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s new book, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0970576838/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Vanishing&lt;/a&gt;&quot; is a collection of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0505/the-attention-seeker.html&quot;&gt;16 photo essays&lt;/a&gt; taken over 16 years by &lt;a href=&quot;http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0111/seven_index.htm&quot;&gt;one of the world&apos;s most acclaimed photojournalists&lt;/a&gt;. It is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.angelfire.com/pr/photoplay/Photojour.html&quot;&gt;a tour through endangered life forms and ruined environments&lt;/a&gt;, human &lt;a href=&quot;http://photoarts.com/journal/SABA/kratochvil/intro.html&quot;&gt;catastrophes&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://photoarts.com/journal/SABA/kratochvil/page1.html&quot;&gt;destruction&lt;/a&gt; -- resulting in vanishing cultures. &quot;Vanishing speaks on behalf of life, despite &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chinaphotocenter.com/ztyz/wpp/1/images/1_009.jpg&quot;&gt;man&apos;s ever-threatening presence&lt;/a&gt;. This body of work &lt;a href=&quot;http://photo.zjol.com.cn/gb/node2/node13984/node13991/images/00074447.jpg&quot;&gt;offers nothing in the way of answers&lt;/a&gt;, neither is it a sermon in hopes of brighter days</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 12:49:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>matteo</dc:creator>		<category>AntoninKratochvil</category>		<category>photography</category>		<category>photojournalism</category>		<category>book</category>		<category>books</category>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering#934771</link>	
		<description>i like the work, but that itself is a problem...Once things are removed into photos (with all their attendant cropping, finishing, etc) they&apos;re not urgent and become aesthetic things--to look at. He&apos;s showing us stuff, but what does he want?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 14:26:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering#934778</link>	
		<description>(it&apos;s also that the people in the shots aren&apos;t really reacting to the environments so much as simply living in them, like we do--a testament to our adaptability--i actually take away a positive message, but i&apos;m not sure i&apos;m intended to)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 14:31:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrgrimm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering#934811</link>	
		<description>Maybe this world is another planet&apos;s heaven?

It&apos;s sure got to be better than Pluto. Then again, it is a lot hotter.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 14:56:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: es_de_bah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering#934812</link>	
		<description>i don&apos;t know amberglow, where you see adaptability, I see dehumanization and apathy...not good old american &apos;view-from-afar&apos; apathy either...scary,&apos;frog-in-boiling-water&apos; apathy. i really don&apos;t like the idea that people can live in those situations. and i suppose me being disturbed is what the artist intended.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 14:57:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>es_de_bah</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: es_de_bah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering#934814</link>	
		<description>come to think of it, mrgrimm, wasn&apos;t the whole heaven&apos;s gate crew headed for pluto?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 14:59:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering#934822</link>	
		<description>(i don&apos;t know--maybe i&apos;m just in an optimistic mood?) It&apos;s that the people are reacting to the environments they&apos;re in so much, but are just living, i think.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 15:03:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>amberglow</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering#934823</link>	
		<description>that the people aren&apos;t reacting...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 15:04:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: perianwyr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering#934842</link>	
		<description>Just because you&apos;re floating on the surface doesn&apos;t mean you haven&apos;t drowned yet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 15:22:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering#934862</link>	
		<description>but that&apos;s true for all of us, no matter where we are.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 15:39:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nanojath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering#934985</link>	
		<description>Maybe this planet IS &lt;a href=&quot;http://mtsu32.mtsu.edu:11090/305/Stories/attebberycomments.html#Strange%20Wine&quot;&gt;another world&apos;s heaven&lt;/a&gt;, mrgrimm...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2005 18:11:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: taz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering#935231</link>	
		<description>Also, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.billcharles.com/kratochvil/kratochvil_1.htm&quot;&gt;21 pages of Kratochvil images here&lt;/a&gt;, unfortunately presented without context, but still fascinating. You might even glimpse a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.billcharles.com/kratochvil/poppics/a_Harvey_4.jpg&quot;&gt;famous face&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.billcharles.com/kratochvil/poppics/a_depp.jpg&quot;&gt;two&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, matteo!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 02:11:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kellydamnit</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering#935311</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m endlessly fascinated by the images of collapsing societies.  It also terrifies me to see how much some of them look like parts of my own hometown.

I don&apos;t have much to add, other than this is good.

I only wish that the images were larger, on many it was tough to really make out what they were.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 06:39:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kellydamnit</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: troutfishing</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42087/All-I-wanted-to-do-was-record-how-all-those-poor-people-adapted-to-lies-and-suffering#936066</link>	
		<description>I refuse to give up.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 20:24:24 -0800</pubDate>
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