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	<title>Comments on: It&apos;s like closed captioning in reverse!</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 10:16:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>It&apos;s like closed captioning in reverse!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2005/05/the_simpsons_as.html"&gt;The Simpsons as read by WGBH.&lt;/a&gt; WFMU&apos;s Station Manager Ken discovers an extra audio track on the Simpsons that describes the visuals for blind people.  He even provides a &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/Simpsons_DVS_Version.mp3&quot;&gt;21 MB, 23 minute MP3&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-146/epid-384298/&quot; title=&quot;Thank God, It&apos;s Doomsday - May 8th, 2005&quot;&gt;a recent episode&lt;/a&gt; that is surprisingly listenable.  Sure it&apos;s missing all the sex and drugs, but your iPod is a handy way to take the Simpsons with you.  Are podcasts of TV show audio tracks next?  Will we be listening to Family Guy and the Daily Show during our commutes?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 10:15:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>revgeorge</dc:creator>		<category>simpsons</category>		<category>mp3</category>		<category>blind</category>		<category>tv</category>		<category>visuallyimpaired</category>		<category>dvs</category>		<category>DescriptiveVideoServices</category>
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		<title>By: revgeorge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937417</link>	
		<description>And no, I don&apos;t think this is something you&apos;d need a TV to understand.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 10:16:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Busithoth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937422</link>	
		<description>that&apos;s pretty cool.
I wonder if someone&apos;s taken the VCR yet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 10:31:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Busithoth</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Balisong</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937425</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d listen to old, or new Daily Show episodes on my commute.
More entertaining that Rush, Sean, or Mike...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 10:41:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Balisong</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: riffola</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937429</link>	
		<description>Discovers? Uh The Simpsons have had the AD logo in their title sequence for a long time, I believe there are 3 audio tracks for each episode, English, Spanish, and Audio Description.

Here&apos;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adinternational.org/ADIvideodesc.html&quot;&gt;list of Audio Description carrying shows&lt;/a&gt; currently on TV.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 10:54:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>riffola</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: riffola</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937431</link>	
		<description>My mistake, the logo in The Simpsons title sequence is SAP (Secondary Audio Program) which also implies that the spanish audio is embeded in it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 10:56:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>riffola</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: First Post</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937434</link>	
		<description>Interesting.  I knew they did this for &quot;Blind Justice&quot;, but I didn&apos;t know if that was specifically because the protagonist was blind.

(That was a great show, btw.  Of course, like most good shows, it&apos;s being canceled.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 11:13:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shepd</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937435</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.satcodx7.com/2691/can/&quot;&gt;ExpressVu&lt;/a&gt; satellite in Canada has at least one (in fact, I think it&apos;s many more, now) dedicated descriptive video channel.

Note for the bored that one of the special editions of Terminator 2 includes the descriptive audio for the video.  It was actually far less exciting than I had hoped, but what the hell!  :-D</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 11:19:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NickDouglas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937440</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d actually listen to a Daily Show descriptive audio, though I&apos;d miss Stewart&apos;s expressions and the awkwardly staring interviewees from the field segments. You can&apos;t put that in words.

Once I popped in a rented &quot;Field of Dreams&quot; and discovered they gave me the DA version. I watched anyway, and by the end I didn&apos;t even notice. You know how you can recall hearing English in a foreign film, even though it was actually subtitled? It was that effect -- I can&apos;t remember the DA from all but the first scene of &quot;Field of Dreams.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 11:50:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>NickDouglas</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: selfmedicating</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937450</link>	
		<description>Wacky. My tivo mistakenly picked the extra audio channel on The Simpsons up last week too. Personally I found it distracting and I don&apos;t think it comes close to making the simpsons into a radio show. After all, this is animation -- goofy, over-the-top visual gags are the whole point of the medium.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 12:11:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joeclark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937455</link>	
		<description>Joining us late?

The icon that Fox superimposes on &lt;cite&gt;The Simpsons&lt;/cite&gt; is the now-outdated WGBH description pictograph, whose history I have &lt;a href=&quot;http://joeclark.org/access/resources/symbolizing-dvs.html&quot; title=&quot;Symbolizing accessibility&quot;&gt;covered&lt;/a&gt;. There&apos;s a better alternative available.

SAP is a single monaural audio channel. You can use it for description or a second language, but not both.

&lt;cite&gt;Blind Justice&lt;/cite&gt; was indeed described (by the mom-&apos;n&apos;-pop shop We See TV [sic]) solely because it features (inevitably) a sighted actor playing a blind character. I&apos;ve given up on it after three full homophobic episodes, but I ran a &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.fawny.org/2005/04/01/bjw/&quot; title=&quot;&apos;Blind Justice&apos; Watch&quot;&gt;Watch column&lt;/a&gt; for a while.

My issue with the &lt;cite&gt;T2&lt;/cite&gt; description was the boring-as-shit narrator. There are a (laughably) few dozen other DVDs with description; I outsourced the list to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DVDs_with_audio_description&quot; title=&quot;List of DVDs with audio description&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;. First-run movies are another description source. And there&apos;s certainly a lot more described programming on Canadian TV than in the U.S., where our friends at the MPAA, among others, sued to have a description requirement rescinded and won.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 12:17:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>joeclark</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: AloneOssifer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937464</link>	
		<description>Great find..</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 12:41:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: myopicman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937499</link>	
		<description>A few years ago, Showcase in Canada aired must&apos;ve aired the audio description version of &lt;a  _top href=&quot;http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0120728&quot;&gt;The Last Days of Disco&lt;/a&gt;. I had been told by some people that Stillman&apos;s characters were very articulate but I never expected the constant narration, which made for a better viewing experience than the regular audio.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 14:32:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yupislyr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937527</link>	
		<description>This has happened a number of times, where the descriptive audio during the Simpsons has gone out over the air for everyone to hear on the Detroit FOX affiliate. Just out of nowhere a narrator is heard describing the action on screen for a few seconds. Then he&apos;s gone.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 16:09:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Silky Slim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937539</link>	
		<description>i didn&apos;t see this episode, but for some reason i&apos;m finding it funnier and more enjoyable than any simpsons episode in recent memory. maybe it&apos;s the fact that i have to imagine all the settings, like in a book.
turns out my imaginary style is very different from the usual simpsons animation... i pictured grampa simpson running across photo-realistic salt flats, cobalt blue sky, in a wide angle medium close-up, as the yellow bus pulls towards the horizon...
great find. fascinating. thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 16:33:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Silky Slim</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: meehawl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937545</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;your iPod is a handy way to take the Simpsons with you&lt;/i&gt;

Of course, those of us with &lt;a href=&quot;http://shanebrinkmandavis.com/homepage/Archos/Main/PVPSurvey/&quot;&gt;personal video players&lt;/a&gt; have been taking the Simpsons with us for years. Watching movies on a small screen does encounter certain limitations, but TV-scale animations are more than acceptable. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?num=100&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=lang_en&amp;safe=off&amp;q=h10+iriver&amp;btnG=Search&quot;&gt;H10&lt;/a&gt; is a nice little machine for this sort of thing. Hell, I even have Simpsons and Futurama episodes encoded directly from my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dvarchive.org/&quot;&gt;ReplayTV&lt;/a&gt; onto my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rockbox.org/docs/rvf.html&quot;&gt;2001-era Archos&lt;/a&gt;. Of course (since we&apos;re on the subject), one bonus of the Archos with Rockbox is that it actually provides &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BlindFAQ&quot;&gt;talking navigation menus for blind people&lt;/a&gt;, so they can easily navigate to the content stored on the machine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 16:50:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: meehawl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937549</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=iriver%20h320&amp;num=100&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=lang_en&amp;safe=off&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wf&quot;&gt;H320&lt;/a&gt;, not h10, sorry.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 17:01:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joeclark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937550</link>	
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; A few years ago, Showcase in Canada aired must&apos;ve aired the &lt;ins&gt;[open-described]&lt;/ins&gt; version of &lt;cite&gt;The Last Days of Disco&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...which was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.joeclark.org/access/description/lastdaysofdescription.html&quot; title=&quot;AudioVisionWatch&quot;&gt;about as well-done as you&apos;d expect from AudioVision Canada&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 17:01:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blacklite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937605</link>	
		<description>This has to be an old, old Simpsons.

It&apos;s amusing, but the editing (is it still editing when it&apos;s an animation? maybe the pacing) is a little jarring, as though they&apos;re still having issues moving from the short Tracey Ullman segment format.

Or maybe it just seems that way in audio.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 20:21:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>blacklite</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Silky Slim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937641</link>	
		<description>blacklite: it&apos;s from 2 weeks ago,</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 22:11:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Silky Slim</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: anarcation</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937649</link>	
		<description>For info on the episode, check out May 8 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snpp.com/episodeguide/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 22:27:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SirOmega</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937656</link>	
		<description>Wow, I want all the simpsons episodes like this. I can sit in my cube and code, or be on a long drive and still have the simpsons with me. Yea!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 23:11:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>SirOmega</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Down10</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42181/Its-like-closed-captioning-in-reverse#937977</link>	
		<description>A Daily Show podcast would make a fortune. If only someone would bring it to fruition...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 15:30:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Down10</dc:creator>
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