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	<title>Comments on: New contender...or great green hype?</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 02:32:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>New contender...or great green hype?</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.greenzap.com"&gt;Greenzap&lt;/a&gt; opened for business last week, with every intent of taking on PayPal for the title of online payment portal &lt;i&gt;du jour&lt;/i&gt;.  But even before the service officially launched, there was already a growing number of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenzapscam.com/&quot;&gt;people&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=2190&quot;&gt;hotly&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://blindecho.net/greenzap/&quot;&gt;debating&lt;/a&gt; the validity of the enterprise.  Will this be the next big thing, or just another lollipop party waiting for the suckers to show up?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 02:28:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>deusdiabolus</dc:creator>		<category>Greenzap</category>		<category>PayPal</category>		<category>payment</category>		<category>brokenlink</category>		<category>scam</category>
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		<title>By: orthogonality</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#949979</link>	
		<description>Changing every terminal &quot;s&quot; to a &quot;z&quot; (&lt;i&gt;e.g.&lt;/i&gt; &quot;feez&quot;) givez me no confidence in thiz.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 02:32:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>orthogonality</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: alumshubby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#949992</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;just another lollipop party waiting for the suckers to show up&lt;/em&gt;

Emphasis on &lt;i&gt;another&lt;/i&gt; -- I&apos;ve talked to people who are pretty suspicious of PayPal, as far as that goes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 03:17:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fire&amp;wings</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#950021</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s all a bit Bonzi Buddy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:25:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fire&amp;wings</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dopamine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#950032</link>	
		<description>&quot;The Future of Money. 
It&apos;s Zappening.&quot;

Zappening.

That word should be everyone&apos;s first warning right there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:49:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dopamine</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sexymofo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#950037</link>	
		<description>Wasn&apos;t there a sit com in the 70&apos;s called &quot;Whatz Zappening&quot;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 05:57:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sexymofo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: nervousfritz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#950061</link>	
		<description>goddam it. I would like to point out that the word &quot;fritz&quot; actually does end in z, according to reliable sources..........</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 06:47:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nervousfritz</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: KevinSkomsvold</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#950064</link>	
		<description>H to the... Aw fuck it.....</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 06:57:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>KevinSkomsvold</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Succa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#950065</link>	
		<description>Nothing named &quot;Greenzap&quot; will unseat anything.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 07:00:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Succa</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sfenders</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#950074</link>	
		<description>Oh well, I suppose it can&apos;t be much worse than paypal.  Someday, somebody will do it right.

Their privacy policy:

We will collect all the personal information we can find about you.  We will sell it to people who want to sell you things.  We will give it to anyone we feel like.  We will send you spam.  If you wish to opt out of all this, feel free not to do business with us.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 07:23:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sfenders</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: QuietDesperation</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#950216</link>	
		<description>That terminal &quot;z&quot; really is terminal for Internet pay schemes. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beanz.com/&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; was PayPal&apos;s forerunner.

And say what you want about PP: an eBay seller recently flaked out on me, and PayPal returned my money. Had I sent a check, I&apos;d be out of luck.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:45:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>QuietDesperation</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Servo5678</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#950231</link>	
		<description>And before Beanz there was &lt;a  _top href=&quot;http://news.com.com/2100-1017-271385.html?legacy=cnet&quot;&gt;Flooz&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:17:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blag</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#950239</link>	
		<description>christ, I thought sfenders was exaggerating but that really is one of the worst privacy policies I&apos;ve seen in a long time:
&lt;blockquote&gt; If you wish to opt-out, simply select the &quot;Deactivate Account&quot; link located within your &quot;Profile&quot;. You always have the right to change your mind. If you do not opt-out, we&apos;ll assume that you have agreed that GreenZap may use your personal information to determine what goods and services you may be interested in, offer you goods and services that we think meet your needs, and for the other purposes described herein.&lt;/blockquote&gt;It almost looks like transactions are secondary to data collection in their business plan.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:05:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: OmieWise</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#950338</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t even tell from the website what the fuck is going on (I mean aside from the terminal terminal z&apos;s).  I do know that the more of you people I get to sign up, the more I&apos;ll get paid paid paid, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:30:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>OmieWise</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mrgrimm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#950486</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;And say what you want about PP: an eBay seller recently flaked out on me, and PayPal returned my money.&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed. I got screwed pre-PP on eBay and I&apos;ve never recovered.

&quot;Oh, I let this guy use my account for a while&quot;

Um, yeah.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 17:44:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mrgrimm</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Ljubljana</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#950967</link>	
		<description>This is getting a lot of interest where I am, since Paypal refuses to do business in &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-approved-signup-countries-outside&quot;&gt;some countries&lt;/a&gt; and there are plenty of people here who are itching for something like this. I&apos;m still a bit hesitant.

On &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenzap.com/greenzap-storez.asp&quot;&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt;, for example, they mention that they&apos;re affiliated with Amazon and some other stores, but I wasn&apos;t able to find anything on Amazon mentioning them. It doesn&apos;t show up on the list of &quot;payment methods we accept&quot; or when searching Amazon.com. Maybe I&apos;m not looking hard enough, but the whole thing still seems to be not-quite transparent, to put it mildly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:33:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ljubljana</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bizwank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42562/New-contenderor-great-green-hype#951386</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;How Can I get more information on GreenZap?
The easiest way to get more information is to simply call (301) 776-1490, and your questions will be answered by one of our members who is experienced with answering questions.&lt;/em&gt;

Google that phone number; it&apos;s also the contact number for Muzumah.com, CardGlobal.com and Jet99.com. Now go read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aboutmytalk.com/printthread.php?s=&amp;&amp;threadid=124114&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, and note that the Geotrust icon on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenzap.com/greenzap-storez.asp&quot;&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt; is not clickable, which is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geotrust.com/identity_verification/truesite.htm&quot;&gt;the only way GeoTrust icons work.&lt;/a&gt;

If you still think greenzap is legit and they won&apos;t sell your personal information and close up shop in a month, you&apos;re an idiot and you probably need the life lesson you&apos;re signing up for.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:14:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bizwank</dc:creator>
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