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	<title>Comments on: &quot;You&apos;re a helper monkey! This isn&apos;t helping!&quot;</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:30:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>&quot;You&apos;re a helper monkey! This isn&apos;t helping!&quot;</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.helpinghandsmonkeys.org/"&gt;Helper monkeys!&lt;/a&gt; Severely disabled people can get trained monkeys to help them out in their daily chores, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2004/08/03/monkey_meets_little_boy_at_grocery_store_problems_ensue.php&quot;&gt;though &lt;/a&gt; sometime &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/219782p-188993c.html&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;  causes &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/220704p-189709c.html&quot;&gt;problems&lt;/a&gt;. Haven&apos;t you always wanted a monkey? The Mesa SWAT Team &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=681936&quot;&gt;certainly want one&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 05:50:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kattullus</dc:creator>		<category>monkeys</category>		<category>disability</category>		<category>SWAT</category>
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		<title>By: 1016</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959287</link>	
		<description>Pray for Mojo...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:30:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: naturesgreatestmiracle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959290</link>	
		<description>You&apos;re a helper monkey!  This isn&apos;t helping!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:39:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Turtles all the way down</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959295</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Haven&apos;t you always wanted a monkey?&lt;/em&gt;

Yes. Oh, yes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:47:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Turtles all the way down</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: knave</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959302</link>	
		<description>You&apos;re supposed to be a helper monkey!  This isn&apos;t helping!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:53:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: knave</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959306</link>	
		<description>Arg.. my bad.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:54:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>knave</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: carmen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959322</link>	
		<description>From the third article: &lt;em&gt;&quot;to purchase and train a capuchin monkey, considered the second smartest primate to the chimpanzee. &quot;&lt;/em&gt;

NO!!! This is wrong on so many levels! If you want to rank intelligence in primates (which doesn&apos;t really have much point), it goes something like humans, bonobos, chimps, gorrillas, orangutans and gibbons, with the chimp to orangutan pretty close together. None of those primates are monkeys.

A capuchin is desirable as a trained animal precisely because it is *not* like a chimp. It is safer than a chimp because chimps -- with their high intelligence -- have their own interests firmly in place and will generally be dangerously uncooperative (as adults) if you ask them to do something they are not interested in doing.

Even so, monkeys are not domesticated. It strikes me as rather risky to train a wild animal to help a disabled person (or really, to be a pet of any kind).

Sorry for the outburst. Primatology is my second love. Reading a sentence like the one quoted is like a cheese grater on my spine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:07:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Neosamurai85</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959333</link>	
		<description>Monkeys? Helping?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://imdb.com/title/tt0133152/&quot;&gt;That&apos;s a bad idea!&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://imdb.com/title/tt0095652/&quot;&gt;A VERY, VERY BAD IDEA!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:22:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: naturesgreatestmiracle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959372</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt; Arg.. my bad.&lt;/i&gt;

Eh, it&apos;s a good line.  No worries.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:49:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959373</link>	
		<description>Overall this is a potentially very profitable idea. According to the video they cost $26,000 to train and work for 30 some years, thats less than $1000 a year! I wonder what other industries they could be adapted too? Could we use the new crop of intelligence enhancing drugs to improve performance levels? Image a service monkey with proper enhancements to prevent aggressive behavior, not unlike how dogs have had the wolf bred out of them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:50:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jon-o</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959397</link>	
		<description>I laughed for about 10 minutes when I first saw the logo for helpinghandsmonkeys.org!
Can I get that on a TShirt?


I also briefly imagined the SWAT monkey, clad in its kevlar and its little video helmet, flinging poo at some bank robbers or some poor guy who&apos;s about to jump off of a building. 


on preview: Metafilter: Flinging Poo</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:12:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon-o</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Jon-o</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959401</link>	
		<description>oh, and by the way:

I might have to start a band, just so I can name it &quot;Attack Macaque.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:19:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Francesnash</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959413</link>	
		<description>I want one!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:32:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Francesnash</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Kattullus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959478</link>	
		<description>Jon-o: That&apos;s an awesome band name. Sign me up!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:28:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kattullus</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: zaelic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959487</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Dressed in a Kevlar vest, video camera and two-way radio, the small monkey would be able to get into places no officer or robot could go.&lt;/em&gt;

Somehow I expected to hear a punchline somewhere... &lt;em&gt;&quot;But I never had money before!&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:34:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zaelic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: aramaic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959574</link>	
		<description>Mmmmm, I can&apos;t wait to eat that monkey.....</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:19:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: muppetboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959642</link>	
		<description>i bet they can be taught to program in C#.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:50:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gamblor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959718</link>	
		<description>You know, I loves me some monkeys, like most everyone else I know.  And yet, I don&apos;t know a single person who&apos;s had one as a pet.  I mean, they must just be remarkably unpleasant to have around the house or &lt;em&gt;somebody&lt;/em&gt; I know would have had one, at least briefly.

Plus, what are monkeys best at?  Squabbling and masturbating.  I don&apos;t need any help in those areas.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:37:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: badger_flammable</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959737</link>	
		<description>Another advantage:
&lt;em&gt;&quot;Any cost of securing or maintaining service animals, such as a seeing eye dog, hearing guide dog, or &lt;strong&gt;housekeeper monkey&lt;/strong&gt; is (an) allowable (medical cost), including food and veterinarian bills&quot;&lt;/em&gt; in the Food Stamp program in the U.S.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:54:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MiltonRandKalman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959854</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;i bet they can be taught to program in C#.&lt;/em&gt;

A thousand monkeys randomily hitting keys in C# will get you an open-source browser.

Up it to ten-thousand, you get an OS</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:14:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aGreatNotion</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959862</link>	
		<description>Having a helper monkey is one of my strange dreams.  They&apos;re so awesome.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:17:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: knave</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#959912</link>	
		<description>By the way, the Banterist had a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.banterist.com/archivefiles/000261.html&quot;&gt;funny piece&lt;/a&gt; on this subject.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:48:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BrotherCaine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#960040</link>	
		<description>This reminds me of my favorite Miss Manners advice column ever.   Someone wanted to bring the helper monkey they were training to a wedding with them, and the Bride wanted advice on how to dissuade them tactfully.  Miss Manners responded that she should reply:

&quot;We are so sorry that we can&apos;t have your darling monkey, who would no doubt behave beautifully, but we feel we just can&apos;t make an exception because other people might bring theirs, who would not behave as well.&quot;
- From &apos;Miss Manners: On Weddings&apos;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:10:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BrotherCaine</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Balisong</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42831/Youre-a-helper-monkey-This-isnt-helping#960233</link>	
		<description>Monkey hate clean.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:30:01 -0800</pubDate>
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