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	<title>Comments on: Wake the dead</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:57:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Wake the dead</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://bushflash.com/swf/wtc.swf"&gt;Monday Flash Fun&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:41:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>If I Had An Anus</dc:creator>		<category>tinfoil</category>		<category>flash</category>		<category>iraq</category>		<category>PNAC</category>		<category>pancake</category>
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		<title>By: 23skidoo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962405</link>	
		<description>Two out of three ain&apos;t bad.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:57:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scarabic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962407</link>	
		<description>Yeah this is definitely the MONDAY equivalent of Friday Flash Fun.

Funny how plain text takes on so much more drama when you type it into Macromedia Flash and run it in front of a folk song.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:59:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Armitage Shanks</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962412</link>	
		<description>Lot&apos;s and lot&apos;s of apostrophe catastrophe&apos;s.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:01:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ColdChef</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962421</link>	
		<description>Who are these &quot;smart countries&quot; laughing at us and why aren&apos;t we bombing them?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:06:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Blue Buddha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962434</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m glad I stayed until the 3rd frame, or else I wouldn&apos;t know what the word &quot;Lie&quot; meant.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:17:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Blue Buddha</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: If I Had An Anus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962448</link>	
		<description>Gee, but DU loved it and it&apos;s got pancakes!!
&lt;small&gt;And how come it&apos;s the first PNAC tag ever? Fishy.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:31:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bardic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962454</link>	
		<description>Where&apos;s my asbestos boxer shorts?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:36:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962467</link>	
		<description>Maybe Germany, &lt;a href=&quot;http://washingtontimes.com/world/20050608-095942-4588r.htm&quot;&gt;  where recently a &quot;TV show depicts 9/11 as Bush plot&quot;&lt;/a&gt; ?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/6742902.htm&quot;&gt;If all the questions had ever been answered&lt;/a&gt; (Philly Daily News),  there wouldn&apos;t be continuing questions and theories. And don&apos;t forget, Bush never even wanted an investigation at all, and made sure that the scope was limited.

Meanwhile, while they lied to us and &lt;a href=&quot;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40E1EF73E550C7A8CDDA10894DB404482&amp;incamp=archive:search&quot;&gt;told us the air was safe&lt;/a&gt; to breathe, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/20/nyregion/20deutsche.html&quot;&gt;Where Time Is Stopped at Sept. 11&lt;/a&gt;(about the about to be demolished Deutsche Bank Bldg) tells us of &lt;i&gt;...Demolition has since been delayed as the scope of needed environmental safeguards and contaminant cleanup has grown. Consultants to the corporation have confirmed that the tower has excessive levels of asbestos, dioxin, lead, silica, quartz, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, chromium and manganese. ... &lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:45:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: event</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962476</link>	
		<description>The video of the Kingdome collapsing convinced me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:53:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NickDouglas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962503</link>	
		<description>*yawn*</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:24:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bugmuncher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962515</link>	
		<description>Call me pedantic, but if they can&apos;t get the name of their culprit right (it&apos;s Control Demolition, not &quot;Controlled Demolition&quot;)...

Maybe they&apos;re just not good at details?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:37:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shepd</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962523</link>	
		<description>&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.drowning.com/images/boring.gif&quot;&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:45:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wezlee</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962531</link>	
		<description>So what are these &quot;Laws of Thermal Dynamics&quot;?  Anyone?  Anyone?  Anyone?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:58:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: soyjoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962580</link>	
		<description>Thermal dynamics is a well-known set of fashion industry &quot;laws&quot; about how garish, or &quot;loud,&quot; the pattern on a set of undergarments and/or sleepwear (especially, of course, thermal underwear) may get before it turns from fashion into outright performance art.

Glad you asked.

(I like how the instant beatdown from &quot;23skidoo&quot; had to do with &quot;2 out of 3.&quot; That made the whole thing worthwhile.)
&lt;small&gt;..23 is everywhere...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:59:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gallois</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962592</link>	
		<description>Uh, I don&apos;t think so.  Even the earnest rock song can&apos;t convince me that the government intentionally collapsed the WTC.

Oh wait, it&apos;s a joke right?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:21:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: uncanny hengeman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962595</link>	
		<description>Did Larry Silverstein &lt;em&gt;really &lt;/em&gt;admit that WTC7 was blown up? That&apos;s pretty damning, but I&apos;d like to hear it from a more reputable source that a funked up flash presentation.

Little things like that that haven&apos;t been followed up. Interesting. Like the massive spike in options trading on American Airlines just prior to 9/11. Who made money on those deals? Have names been named?

And don&apos;t get me started on the Pentagon flash presentation from a while ago!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:25:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hades</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962633</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s video that sure looks like  Silverstein saying WTC7  was a controlled demolition &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/180305groundzero.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. 

To quote &lt;a href=&quot;http://nielsenhayden.com/electrolite/archives/002301.html#15013&quot;&gt;Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/a&gt;, I deeply resent the way this administration makes me feel like a nutbar conspiracy theorist.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 00:46:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: uncanny hengeman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962638</link>	
		<description>Way before 9/11 I remember seeing the aftermath of some Russian apartment buildings that had been blown up by terrorists. Not long after, I heard tinfoil hat rumours that the Ruskies did it to their own people so as to have an excuse to start a war with Chechnya.

And I&apos;m like &quot;No way!&quot; and the tinfoil hat dude is like &quot;Way!&quot;

I don&apos;t know what to believe any more.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:09:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: uncle harold</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962644</link>	
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;amberglow:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt; Maybe Germany,  where recently a &quot;TV show depicts 9/11 as Bush plot&quot; ?&lt;/em&gt;

I realize this might be a bit of a derail, but as a German I feel I have to comment on that utterly stupid article.

I have watched the show in question. It was, as the (for a TV show generally excellent) &quot;Tatort&quot; standards go, stupid.

But the plot revolved around a woman who &lt;em&gt;claimed&lt;/em&gt; to know of a conspiracy plot. The viewer never knew whether she was right or just lunatic, or making it up to protect herself from prosecution in another crime. There were events that seemed to be in favor of her theory, others were not.

In fact, the last scene, while still leaving the truth open, insinuates more than anything else that the woman was actually at least sympathetic to the terrorists, and used the confusion created by herself to escape the police... which would imply the opposite of a &quot;bush plot&quot;.

The whole thing was a bad attempt gone worse at widening the local scope of the show to international plots. But they took care to not display any conspiracy theories as truth or even as credible.

Also I&apos;d like to see some statistics about how many &lt;em&gt;Americans&lt;/em&gt; believe the moon landing was fake. The unsupported claim the Washington Times makes that many Germans believe it to be fabricated seems pretty bullshit. In fact, after 30 years, I only learned from American websites that there &lt;em&gt;even are&lt;/em&gt; people who believe this crap.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:24:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: intermod</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962664</link>	
		<description>Its versus it&apos;s.  Learn the difference.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 04:26:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962719</link>	
		<description>It was portrayed here very differently (Euro-bashing probably), uncle. The only thing i&apos;d say is that we&apos;ve also seen a lot of coverage of French documentaries and books and stuff that allege the same thing. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0007467E-C454-1E1C-8B3B809EC588EEDF&quot;&gt;...The moon-hoax show claimed that 20 percent of Americans have doubts about whether we ever really went (apparently up from the 6 percent that a 1999 Gallup poll identified). ...&lt;/a&gt;

What also feeds into all this is &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&amp;ned=us&amp;ie=ISO-8859-1&amp;q=Osama+bin+Laden+or+al-Qaida.+She+wanted+to+talk+about+%22regime+change%22+in+Iraq%22&amp;scoring=d&quot;&gt;Osama Bin Forgotten,&lt;/a&gt; which we&apos;re all being reminded of due to the Downing Street Papers. No more &quot;dead or alive&quot;--only 6 months after 9/11, and they were already only interested in Iraq.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:54:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: unsupervised</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962762</link>	
		<description>The video asks how come the Networks didn&apos;t show this particular angle of the WTC collapse.

If you were to look in the bottom right corner of their video, you&apos;d see the Fox 5 News logo, the local Fox affiliate in NYC.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 06:58:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tatochip</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962794</link>	
		<description>Has anyone seen any supposed conspiracy theory focusing on the plausible connection between the real estate valuation implications of the proposed NY Olympic site? Any chance Silverstein could benefit from the Olympics being in NYC? Any chance that the Trade Center&apos;s removal could have made the chances better that the Olympics would happen in NYC? Hmm...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:29:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mistersquid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962946</link>	
		<description>What none of these conspiracy theorists explain is the massive amount of ordinance that would have to be smuggled into the two towers of the WTC and then placed. Furthermore, the collapses occur near the floors where each plane flew into its respective tower.

There is no way that those pilots would have been able to gauge which floor they were targeting except by consulting altitude instrumentation, which plan would have been detailed in the files discovered in the pilots&apos; rooms.

A much more plausible conspiracy theory is that certain key members of the administration knew full well of the attack which was to occur on 9/11, but did not (all of them) deduce the consequences of the planes&apos; impacts.

Whatever.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:02:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chaz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#962954</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;What none of these conspiracy theorists explain is the massive amount of ordinance that would have to be smuggled into the two towers of the WTC and then placed. Furthermore, the collapses occur near the floors where each plane flew into its respective tower.&lt;/em&gt;

Agreed, this is what I find utterly implausible. 

But then, why did Number 7 collapse in the same fashion? No planes were flown into it... and how did they smuggle the massive amounts of ordinance into that tower?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:13:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: uncanny hengeman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#963198</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;But then, why did Number 7 collapse in the same fashion? No planes were flown into it... and how did they smuggle the massive amounts of ordinance into that tower?&lt;/em&gt;

Zackly! If it&apos;s so improbable how did it happen? Plus we have Mr Silverstein admitting it, apparently.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:52:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nanojath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#964443</link>	
		<description>That sucked so hard.  No wonder the good guys are losing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:35:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: If I Had An Anus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/42926/Wake-the-dead#965938</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html&apos;&gt;Whoa&lt;/a&gt; ... ok, how about a former Bushco bad guy saying the same thing?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:19:13 -0800</pubDate>
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