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Japanese smoking etiquette

Kat Allison — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:11:35 -0800

In summertime, the arms that pass near my lit cigarette are bare. A collection of Japanese smoking etiquette signs, some haiku-like, some heart-rending, and some just strange. (via Mimi Smartypants)

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:18:33 -0800

This one has always been my favorite, because...a 700℃ fire in your hand?? How cool is that!!

By: btwillig

btwillig — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:27:02 -0800

Excelent post, thanks Kat.

By: amarynth

amarynth — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:32:16 -0800

[this is good]

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:35:34 -0800

I've been consistently impressed that A) They put them all in English as well, and B) The English is all correct Wish I'd gotten that translation job...probably payed pretty well.

By: peep

peep — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:38:37 -0800

Heart-rending? Or vaguely pornographic? It really looks like he's bending that cigarette over. It's my favorite.

By: docpops

docpops — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:41:44 -0800

Anything that spells out the atrocious effects of tobacco use on child-bystanders gets a vote of approval from me. These are really amazing.

By: brandz

brandz — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:57:54 -0800

these are a riot. it will probably give the anti-smoking cartel even more utopian ideas. just what we need, more rules.

By: .kobayashi.

.kobayashi. — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:00:47 -0800

Marvelous! Thanks for sharing.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:20:32 -0800

brandz : "it will probably give the anti-smoking cartel even more utopian ideas. just what we need, more rules." As a person living in Japan, I'd like to reiterate what you said, but without the sarcasm. I hope this gives the anti-smoking cartel even more utopian ideas, because (in regards to smoking), just what Japan needs is, in fact, more rules.

By: sellout

sellout — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:30:17 -0800

I hear heart-rending just got slapped with an AO rating. Actions depicted, however, might be legal in Washington.

By: Kat Allison

Kat Allison — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:31:18 -0800

I don't know about Japan, never having been there, but boy howdy, speaking as a smoker myself (one who's gearing up for yet another run at quitting) I loathe smokers who toss their butts on the ground or let their smoke waft into everyone else's airspace. I don't know how effective more rules would be here in the US, but I wish to god a higher consistent level of civility would prevail -- which is partly why I found these signs so endearing.

By: invitapriore

invitapriore — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:15:21 -0800

That's right, your FACE. Somehow, that almost sounds like an insult.

By: painquale

painquale — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:19:55 -0800

These are great. I love Mimi Smartypants. She seems like fun.

By: brandz

brandz — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:26:08 -0800

i said sarcastically 'just what WE need is more rules', not japan. i have no idea what japan needs, never having been there myself. perhaps we should impose on japan too. of course, WE know what's best.

By: weapons-grade pandemonium

weapons-grade pandemonium — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:53:54 -0800

Before passing gas I look behind me. But I don't bother when I'm smoking. Do you think I'd get into trouble if I printed some of these on little cards and handed them out occasionally?

By: ddf

ddf — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:02:13 -0800

Those were awesome, thanks.

By: Balisong

Balisong — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:37:31 -0800

This might be the way to take back the country from those who've stolen it. A grassroots campaign to do similar etiquette signs, based on political persuasion, on nice signs, instead of spraypainted on the side of some personal property. Topics like: Torture accountability bullying police state speed limits Bah! what the hell am I thinking? The US is bombarded with signs! Where to turn, Don't turn here, Tourist attraction this way, Fines for littering strictly enforced, Wear your seat belt, Beautification on this road brought to you by Boy Scout troup #147. The only place with more signs is, Japan. It's just something else to filter OUT as you are travelling.

By: Jase_B

Jase_B — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:32:27 -0800

I remember seeing one saying "people who litter with cigarette butts are like children scolding adults with paintbrushes". I was impressed that the English was correct but the meaning puzzles me to this day.

By: Saydur

Saydur — Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:31:37 -0800

Japan is in a unique position regarding tobacco. Most notably, the government has a monopoly on tobacco. Yet, they also have interest in seeing healthier people and cleaner streets. Also, in Japan, there is a certain amount of respect expected from people. In American culture especially, a "me-first" mindset leaves anti-smoking messages directed more at why smoking is bad for YOU. In Japan, the stigma of being a smelly, inconsiderate smoker is more effective as a deterrent than it would be in the US. Also, the Japanese work ethic leads to a remarkable level of stress. Of course, this is only one factor, but in Japan, over half of men smoke. There are fewer demands explicitly for not smoking whatsoever, but constant reminders for smokers to abide by certain manners for the comfort of all. This is simply a normal reaction there, a prodding for politeness regarding a habit that can easily become rude.

By: sour cream

sour cream — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 00:13:30 -0800

bugbread: Wish I'd gotten that translation job...probably payed pretty well. Not if it was paid by the word. Anyhow, those signs are all courtesy of Japan Tobacco, the world's third largest tobacco producer. I wonder what might possess a company to put up posters encouraging consumers *not* to use their products. There's probably some background story here, such as JT cutting some deal with the Health Ministry to put up the posters in exchange for not having to put huge warnings like "Smoking gives the baby Jesus cancer" on the packets like they have in Europe.

By: Navek Rednam

Navek Rednam — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:08:03 -0800

They seem to have conflicted opinions about portable ashtrays.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 07:09:43 -0800

Jase_B : "I remember seeing one saying 'people who litter with cigarette butts are like children scolding adults with paintbrushes'. I was impressed that the English was correct but the meaning puzzles me to this day." That one still puzzles me. And I notice it's not on that page. Saydur : "Also, the Japanese work ethic leads to a remarkable level of stress." Americans work the most hours of any country in the developed world now, I believe. But, point taken, from my dealings with American workers, they work hellish hours, but don't have much of a work ethic. sour cream : "Not if it was paid by the word." You're right. If paid by the word, it looks like that would be less than an $80 job (counted the number of words in the first 10 ads, and multiplied by 4.2 to get the probably total of words). sour cream : "There's probably some background story here, such as JT cutting some deal with the Health Ministry to put up the posters in exchange for not having to put huge warnings like 'Smoking gives the baby Jesus cancer' on the packets like they have in Europe." There may be some special deal, but that isn't it, as the Japanese tobacco warnings grew to be about half the package starting a month or two ago. However, they tend to be very verbose, so Japanese tobacco warnings are the equivalent of: Tobacco has been determined in scientific inquiries to lead to an increased risk of lung cancer, emphysema, cardiac arrest, and other possible health complications. As such, excessive use of tobacco should be avoided in order to avoid possible health risks. While in the UK they tend to be more like: SMOKING CAUSES IMPOTENCE Same amount of package real-estate, but significant difference in visual impact.

By: brandz

brandz — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 07:17:12 -0800

who really believes smoking causes impotence? more scare tactics to control the minions.

By: LeLiLo

LeLiLo — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:17:39 -0800

That one still puzzles me. And I notice it's not on that page. Yes, it's here. I guess it's like that fish without the bicycle quote.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:27:01 -0800

Ah, whoops, didn't notice it there. Thanks.

By: PurplePorpoise

PurplePorpoise — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:18:03 -0800

Smoking can result in alterations of the male sex hormones and is a key cause of and contributor to erectile dysfunction. First, most recent, paper to catch my eye on the topic on a superficial pubmed search. Haven't read it, but it seems like a likely cause. I was told (in a Canadian "sexual health" class in HS, lo about a decade ago) that nicotine can, in addition to 'scoring' arteries to make them more susceptible to buildup of LDL --> cause strokes/&c, also damages the vasculature of the penis. Didn't really believe them then, don't particularly hold to that idea now, either, nor on the coronary disease aspect.

By: brandz

brandz — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:59:58 -0800

seems to me, as a scientist, most studies on the deleterious effects of smoking are funded by BigPharma and the anti-smoking lobbyists. that's not to say smoking is a healthy thing. it can cause lung cancer and heart disease. but i think many of the other ailments attributed to smoking are way, way overplayed. why is it, for example, that the japanese have a higher life expectancy than the usa but smoke way, way more? don't get me started on the second-hand smoke shit. that stuff just baffles my mind. so now we legislate etiquette? apparently so.

By: rafter

rafter — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:31:30 -0800

why is it, for example, that the japanese have a higher life expectancy than the usa but smoke way, way more? Perhaps because there are other factors besides smoking that affect life expectancy? Just a shot in the dark.

By: duck

duck — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:54:58 -0800

I read every one of these (except that wierd one about paintbrushes) thinking "YEAH!". Yes, I'm one of those people who doesn't like to walk behind someone who's smoking and who will pass them to get out of their trail of smoke. And people who smoke at bus stops or light cigarettes just before exiting subway stations should be ticketd....who knows maybe if they start searching bags, the bag search guys can ticket people during the slow times! It looks like they're giving out portable ashtrays. My mom had a couple when I was little (she didn't use them, she just had them), and I've been thinking a lot lately that there should be some sort of campaign to make their use common. It would take away the excuse some smokers use for littering that there were no ashtrays around so they have no choice but to litter. It would also absolve business of having to put out ashtrays on the sidewalk for their customers who go outside to smoke.

By: armacy

armacy — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:52:41 -0800

Tokyo has designated smoking stations throughout the city, which many, many people followed during my stay. Other areas of the city were designated "no smoking" areas. It was impressive that so many people followed these rules considering the amount of smokers in the city and the wonderful variety of cheap cigarettes available from the vending machines located everywhere.

By: Dick Paris

Dick Paris — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:12:17 -0800

Nice post. I like those UK warnings too. I was just spending time with my brother in law (from Wanstead, London, UK) and was always amused to see each day's tobacco warning.

By: brandz

brandz — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:02:35 -0800

spot on, rafter. i was beginning to think that smokers were actually the evil-doers.