Comments on: I Want To Ride It Where I Like

I Want To Ride It Where I Like

fandango_matt — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:39:11 -0800

"I've moved several times entirely by bicycle. I've hauled huge things, including couches and washing machines."

By: Doug

Doug — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:43:42 -0800

Huh.

By: Balisong

Balisong — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:45:16 -0800

I've done that before. It sucks. Now I have three vehicles, and one is always a pickup truck.

By: invitapriore

invitapriore — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:47:12 -0800

I guess that's feasible if you don't take your furniture with you.

By: Badgermann

Badgermann — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:47:33 -0800

Umm, the directly linked pictures aren't you want them to be, maybe want to edit that. Good thing I wasn't at work.

By: keswick

keswick — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:47:46 -0800

ooh! lemonparty.jpg!

By: keswick

keswick — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:48:43 -0800

heh. lemonparty.jpg paints balisong's comment in a whole new light.

By: Balisong

Balisong — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:58:12 -0800

Eh, What? Lemonparty? I'm using Firefox, and I can't fathom how this is dirty or something. Google has revealed an early nightmare. I don't know where you got that, but I guess you got me...

By: Balisong

Balisong — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:00:10 -0800

Is lemonparty the goatse of old fat gay guys?

By: fandango_matt

fandango_matt — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:00:35 -0800

Holy crap, WTF?! I don't know why the images are being redirected. They worked on/in preview. Sorry, everybody. http://www.michaelbluejay.com/bikemove/ http://www.michaelbluejay.com/bikemove/bikemove14.jpg http://www.michaelbluejay.com/photos/images/oven.jpg

By: nervousfritz

nervousfritz — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:00:43 -0800

Hahahaha well Balison there's no accounting for taste is there. Yeah, really man, some people consider those type images to be lewd, FYI.

By: craniac

craniac — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:01:37 -0800

I'm guessing the author of the original webpage has an automatic redirect to the nasty gay porn that kicks in whenever someone links directly to photos on his site. Any traces of respect I might have had for someone who moves via bicycle are pretty much overshadowed by that.

By: Balisong

Balisong — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:06:33 -0800

I still don't know what you're talking about...

By: Pseudonumb

Pseudonumb — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:22:06 -0800

I've done that before. It sucks. Unfortunate choice of words.

By: clevershark

clevershark — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:22:14 -0800

If I'd known it was going to be *that* kind of party...

By: euphorb

euphorb — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:24:51 -0800

I want to ride it where I like.

By: birdsquared

birdsquared — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:27:30 -0800

The title for this thread takes on new meaning as well... /me wishes he could squeegee his eyes

By: nanojath

nanojath — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:27:59 -0800

Balisong, the creator of the website in question has his images set up to redirect image links to the .jpg files contained within the page to a photograph of senior gay porn. Because the .jpg urls are how image files are inserted directly into html, this is a tactic to prevent "hotlinking" to these images (inserting them directly into a web page divorced of their original context) - some view hotlinking as "theft" of bandwidth - although linking to porn images is in my opinion a gratuitous and rude way to do so as this situation demonstrates. As far as the Lemon Party reference goes, this is a reference to the VERY NSFW lemonparty.org, a "shock site" featuring an image of a gay senior male threesome. You can divert yourself and torture your eyeballs for a spell by browsing the the Wikipedia article on shock sites. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shock_sites

By: Balisong

Balisong — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:34:15 -0800

No, I saw that, I was shocked of the picture with the kitten and the fruit!

By: Balisong

Balisong — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:38:50 -0800

BTW, all the links *to me* still point to some guy moving furnature with his bicycle.

By: hototogisu

hototogisu — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:43:07 -0800

I'm sure this is very cool, but I'm not in much of a mood for old coots tonight. And a hearty *fuck you* to the site's proprietor.

By: nanojath

nanojath — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:43:19 -0800

Interesting, Bali, it seems Firefox is not executing the redirect code... As far as your reactions to kittens and fruit, well, I think we're going to have to take that to Metatalk... No, no, just kidding.

By: hototogisu

hototogisu — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:47:16 -0800

nanojath: my Firefox is redirecting just fine, but then again, I touch my computer and it breaks on a weekly basis. So I have no idea.

By: rafter

rafter — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:57:02 -0800

The redirection works fine in Firefox — I would imagine that it's all being done server-side in any case. If any of you loaded the main before clicking the direct image links, you won't get the shock-picture because your browser has already cached the actual image (which is probably what happened to fandango_matt).

By: strikhedonia

strikhedonia — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:04:30 -0800

You'd have to bring up the full-size image first, not just the main page. At least that's how it worked for me.

By: lucien

lucien — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:20:27 -0800

Yes, ok, there's a couch in that picture. I wasn't brave enough to check for a washing machine in the other...I guess I'll take your word for it!

By: 31d1

31d1 — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:20:39 -0800

i see gay porn on safari and no gay porn on firefox.

By: Derive the Hamiltonian of...

Derive the Hamiltonian of... — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:37:56 -0800

Wait, the title of the post is "I Want to Ride it Where I like." Are you sure you didn't know about the redirect, Fandango_Matt?

By: clevershark

clevershark — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:46:17 -0800

So, has anyone written to the guy to ask him why his code seems to associate harcore senior porn to his site?

By: PareidoliaticBoy

PareidoliaticBoy — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:50:59 -0800

Looks like someone's chain might be short a few links.

By: Derive the Hamiltonian of...

Derive the Hamiltonian of... — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:54:48 -0800

Metafilter: I see gay porn on safari and no gay porn on firefox.

By: stenseng

stenseng — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:57:27 -0800

I'm down with being eco-friendly and trying to keep one's possessions down to a reasonable level, but this is a bit much. These are the kind of hippie-poseurs that always bugged the crap out of me at Evergreen.

By: wakko

wakko — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:14:52 -0800

Even though those links are NSFW, it must really suck to be at work on a sunday.

By: hototogisu

hototogisu — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:16:47 -0800

I did this because it's fun, interesting, and cheap. I don't necessarily recommend this way of moving, and most people can't do it anyway because they don't have the equipment. To move the traditional way I can recommend the services of Austin's Caballero Moving Company. This is posing the way the guy who dug that giant bunker into his back yard was posing.

By: loquacious

loquacious — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:53:54 -0800

I've moved some pretty big stuff on my bike. Way too much camping gear. 100+ pounds of groceries for two for two weeks, including milk and water. Computers, including a 17" monitor. Dozens and dozens of books. A few cases of cheap beer. But never anything as big as a couch with two fat old naked guys on it and a Hummer. I think I'd need a utility trailer for that. I sure as hell ain't letting them ride on the handle bars or crossbar.

By: dabitch

dabitch — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 01:10:28 -0800

Why are people getting mad at the site-owner? Hotlinking is seriously rude, especially from a high traffic place like MeFi. (embedding would be worse than this mind you) click click....click. ....Hmmm.. Then again I don't see how you could have linked to specific pages with the washing machine image etc, so that was rather short sighted by said site-owner. It's not like he gives you an alternative to hotlinking. Oddness.

By: fixedgear

fixedgear — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:26:33 -0800

Helps if you have a cargo bike, doesn't it?

By: grouse

grouse — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:48:38 -0800

Hotlinking is seriously rude Well so much for the web, then.

By: srboisvert

srboisvert — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 03:22:10 -0800

I can sure see why people would want to steal his bandwidth. Photos of bikes towing furniture are hot.

By: Bdave

Bdave — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 03:22:27 -0800

Waugh! Nude Dudes! Being Rude! Crikey!

By: dabitch

dabitch — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 03:53:51 -0800

> grouse: Well so much for the web, then. Hyperlinking and hotlinking aren't the same thing even though some marketing-speak people would like you to believe that "hotlink" means a "really kewl (hyper)link". The only real defense against people hotlinking - embedding images into forums and the likes - is to use that rewrite trick, which as you can see has unfortunate side effects if you link directly to an image (which some also count as a form of hotlinking, if they have given you a web page to link containing that image.) Removing the site owners navigation, information and design is a bit rude, yes. mind you this guy really could have designed better, I'm speaking in general.</Small)

By: dabitch

dabitch — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 03:54:38 -0800

Drats, closing tags.

By: Jimbob

Jimbob — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 05:02:40 -0800

which some also count as a form of hotlinking, if they have given you a web page to link containing that image Webpage: 3,000 bytes Image: 50,000 bytes Webpage + Image = 53,000 bytes Seems to me, clicking on a link directly to the image actually saves bandwidth. Having the images embedded on a non-local site, I can understand why that's wrong. But who complain about directly linking to an image are just anal.

By: caddis

caddis — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 05:28:04 -0800

Usually when you help move the couches and washing machines your reward is beer and perhaps pizza. I guess this old dude was really happy with how the move went.

By: dabitch

dabitch — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 05:33:33 -0800

Yes, because clearly choosing to remove the site (and image) owners navigation and information (perhaps about the image, and reproduction rights of it or other important things) is totally cool and anyone who thinks that you doing so is annoying must be an anal person.

By: dabitch

dabitch — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 05:40:35 -0800

(I agree that embedding is worse, I'm just saying that I can understand site owners getting annoyed when you take their images out of context. In this case, this particular site owner leaves no alternative to hotlinking though. Sorry about the derail.)

By: grouse

grouse — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 05:52:17 -0800

Hyperlinking and hotlinking aren't the same thing Sure they are. The only difference seems to be that you define "hotlinking" as hyperlinking that the webmaster doesn't want you to do. clearly choosing to remove the site (and image) owners navigation and information (perhaps about the image, and reproduction rights of it or other important things) First, you haven't "removed" anything. The original author is the one that chose to put the image up on the web without navigation and information built into it. He might like it to only be retrieved in certain circumstances, but that's really his problem. Of course, by using countermeasures, he makes it our problem, which is his right. Turnabout is fair play. And reproduction rights? In the absence of any other notification, you don't have any. That's a red herring.

By: Busithoth

Busithoth — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 06:38:03 -0800

I got some splainin' to do, being at work (and having a girl temp walk in for a shift behind me just as I clicked on that link). -sigh- so much for a quiet Sunday.

By: Tuwa

Tuwa — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 07:04:07 -0800

some view hotlinking as "theft" of bandwidth - although linking to porn images is in my opinion a gratuitous and rude way to do so as this situation demonstrates. I'll say. They could have just given a 403 forbidden.

By: Ynoxas

Ynoxas — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:01:28 -0800

Stupid. You can rent a medium size u-haul for what, $25 a day for local in-town moves? I would understand if he were in the bush or something but apparently he's in Austin. Also the argument over hotlinking never ceases to amaze me. In the year 2005, we're still worried about someone linking a 32k .jpg DIRECTLY TO A FORUM. Absurd.

By: mecran01

mecran01 — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:31:11 -0800

One way to keep those pictures from being linked would be to remove them from the Internets.

By: killdevil

killdevil — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:05:35 -0800

Wow. I'm as much if not more of a bike nut than the next guy, but this guy is completely off his nut. He reminds me of a bike vagrant I sometimes see rolling around the part of Boston where I live, who has a tower of boxes, bottles and cans strapped to his old Huffy. There is a photobook I saw recently called something like "Bicycles of Burden" that depicts absurd feats of bicycle cargo-hauling in Asia. Anyone know the book? My Google skills are weak today.

By: loquacious

loquacious — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:52:50 -0800

I don't find moving huge things by bike that nutty. People do it all over the world. Bikes are insanely efficient. And each gallon of gas or petro diesel left unburned is that many more less pounds of pollution to breath in. The thing that convinced me that his guy was a bit off was the way he moved stuff. Haphazard piles. Odd bungie cord arrangements. A cubby-holed paper filing rack with the papers still in it. I've probably seen that guy a dozen times from when I was living in Austin, if that's where he's from, in the downtown strip. There's only so many pedicab pushers. Some of those guys were straight out mentally unstable, at the least in their cycling style. The "weirdos on wheels" that really trip me out are those "skip-bike" guys. Y'know, the ones on those balanced rickshaw-like things you propel by running and skipping along, and then just balancing on the two back wheels. Most of 'em seem to have insane Jim Henson-esque aggregates of random crap strewn all over the vehicle.

By: rhapsodie

rhapsodie — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:40:32 -0800

I once saw a man riding his bike in the middle of December (it's Alaska: people still ride their bikes at 40 below in many feet of snow) with eight full-length two-by-fours strapped to the sides of his bicycle under his thighs. He didn't have any special trailer on the back of his bike, like this guy seems to. That was the craziest and awesomest thing I have ever seen on a bicycle.

By: trii

trii — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:14:38 -0800

Huh? They do this all the time in China. They build skyscrapers using bikes and bamboo. No big deal.

By: equipoise

equipoise — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 22:12:56 -0800

Yeah, I'm with trii. In Vietnam, they think nothing of strapping full grown pigs, a litter of little pigs, 38 crates of eggs, or 4 family members onto a bicycle or motorbike. But then again, I was too shy to click the link after all the hubub.

By: OmieWise

OmieWise — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:34:38 -0800

The link the guy has on the bottom of the page to the specialty and work-bike forum is the coolest thing about his site.

By: OmieWise

OmieWise — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:39:31 -0800

This link.

By: Balisong

Balisong — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:47:17 -0800

I think that guy is on to us, OmieWise.

By: fenriq

fenriq — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:24:40 -0800

Years ago when I was in Arizona living off campus from ASU, I broke my leg and had no other means of getting to class save for my mountain bike. So I would strap my crutches on and one legged pedal to class and back. It only took me a couple of bad stops (and comical rolls off the bike) to learn to lean to the side without the broken leg. If I'd had to move, I would have rented a truck or borrowed one. I applaud this guy's thrift and ingenuity but give him double thumbs down for being an ass with the old man gay pron stuff. That's just rude. A yuckface saying please don't hotlink to my pics would be perfectly fine, making people see nasty old pron is wrong. OmieWise, agreed, that Bicycleuniverse site is pretty good stuff.

By: jb

jb — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:12:06 -0800

You can rent a medium size u-haul for what, $25 a day for local in-town moves? Not if you don't have a driver's liscense. I tried - they are a bit touchy about that. I mean, I know where the gas pedal and brakes are. One's on the left and the other on the right, right? Or is it the other way around?

By: jb

jb — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:14:11 -0800

Actually, last time I moved house for an intown move, I was moved partly by car (a friend), but a goodly amount was actually moved by handcart, including a desk with shelfhutch for about a mile on cracked sidewalks. My roommate wouldn't help me move any more stuff after that.