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kenko — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:37:32 -0800

Semiotics for beginners. via Michael Bérubé

By: semmi

semmi — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:17:33 -0800

Will there be a test?

By: kenko

kenko — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:31:37 -0800

Yes.

By: y2karl

y2karl — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:34:48 -0800

Very cool. And consider the source, Michael Bérubé is the Al Jackson Jr. of literary theory, after all.

By: nightchrome

nightchrome — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:42:16 -0800

This is pretty old. But I'll forgive you. Semiotics is a topic for which I know a lot of sites.

By: shoepal

shoepal — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:59:19 -0800

You can't use a bulldozer to study orchids!

By: Quartermass

Quartermass — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:50:33 -0800

"the extent to which a text may be perceived as 'real' depends in part on the medium employed." The one thing I find with Metafilter is the amazing variety of realities there are. On one end of a spectrum, you have the "this isn't real" users, and on the other who take it to the opposite extreme, with most of us falling somewhere in between. Yet because none of us really agree on how real Metafilter is, it is then a source of conflict. The one end, the user who doesn't think anything here is real tries to burn this place down to the ground as often as possible because it isn't real anyway, and it is fun to mess with the people on the opposite end of the spectrum who take it "too seriously." "It's just a website." Those people who do take it really seriously tend to be rigid about the rules, and can't understand why no one else seems to treat Metafilter with the same reverence. I often wonder how much of that has to do with the medium of communication - the "virtual" (and thus unreal) community (Metafilter), where anonymous users communicate via text. I really don't know. I am not ashamed to admit that most of the semiotics I have read has gone right over my head. Reading Saussre, Barthes and (especially) Baudrillard make me feel really stupid.

By: NinjaPirate

NinjaPirate — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:50:00 -0800

I hold a grudge against Eco.

By: re6smith

re6smith — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:36:43 -0800

Just FYI: I've got the book, and it's worth having. Should have more about C.S.Peirce, but then again, many writings about semiotics overlook him entirely.

By: Roger Dodger

Roger Dodger — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 06:36:14 -0800

Looks like a great intro. Can't wait to get into it when I have some time...

By: footnote

footnote — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 06:56:18 -0800

Neat! If only all the judges and pundits blabbing about "originalism" would read this. (Nino Scalia, I'm talking to you!)

By: voltairemodern

voltairemodern — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:20:48 -0800

Not surprised that they ignore Peirce, most of the pragmatists get ignored by the (current) mainstream philosophical traditions. This seems to be changing, but I wouldn't expect recognition of people like Peirce anytime soon.

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:44:02 -0800

I got about halfway through the introduction before my head started spinning.

By: jimmy76

jimmy76 — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:49:55 -0800

I got about halfway through the introduction before my head started spinning. Ditto. I guess I'm not yet a beginner.

By: darsh

darsh — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:39:45 -0800

Nightchrome: - care to provide additional links? I'd be interested

By: gorgor_balabala

gorgor_balabala — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 13:34:33 -0800

The menu is not the meal. I will try to read the Intro, but really...What is the symbolism of a graphical wire coil interrupting and making the text illegible? I hope not that it is unconfined by the boundaries of brain function...

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:31:25 -0800

The menu is not the meal. That's semiotics? Then semiotics must be the study of the incredibly obvious.

By: gorgor_balabala

gorgor_balabala — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:41:43 -0800

jonmc, that is a quote of allan watts.

By: gorgor_balabala

gorgor_balabala — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:43:28 -0800

whups, ~~allan~~ alan

By: gorgor_balabala

gorgor_balabala — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:45:26 -0800

(And it's "not semiotics"...)

By: jonmc

jonmc — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:52:01 -0800

alan watts? Charlie's brother, right?

By: kenko

kenko — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:31:37 -0800

JONMC MAKES MUSIC REFERENCE FILM AT 11