ROCKET FUEL FOR WINNERS

August 4, 2005 12:02 PM

She was, after all, a girl you could take anywhere. One minute she could be the slinkiest cat on the hot tin roof, wrapping her dancer’s body... around a client’s body in a hotel elevator. Then, when the door slid open, she’d look classic, like a wife even, on the arm of a Wall Street CEO or Asian electronics magnate.

Last week, she was busted.
posted by Kwantsar (55 comments total)

I'd heard about her, but I still wonder what makes a girl worth 2k/hr. I'm not the kind who pays for sex (except maybe dinner and a movie) but that price tag is just absurd. If you need an orgasm, some time alone in the bathroom is good enough. If you need a girl specifically, it ought to be for more than just the flesh.
posted by mystyk at 12:12 PM on August 4, 2005

I love the google ads on the page -- "Background Checks"; "Criminal arrest records"; "Free police record checks"
posted by clevershark at 12:18 PM on August 4, 2005

For reference: when one is operating a profitable illegal business, it is ill-advised to gloat on television.
posted by jonmc at 12:22 PM on August 4, 2005

Um, on that 2nd link: Douglas Maher, All Headline News Staff Reporter, needs to learn, that it's not always a good idea, to throw in a comma, everytime it occurs, to you.
posted by soyjoy at 12:22 PM on August 4, 2005

mystyk- I think part of it came from her escort abilities. You know, eye candy at a classy restaurant, conversation at a swanky art gallery. Kind of like the traditional geisha girls.
posted by papakwanz at 12:23 PM on August 4, 2005

She is going to owe a fortune in taxes.
posted by ryanissuper at 12:25 PM on August 4, 2005

mystyk, I know what you mean. But back around when Hugh Grant got busted, I remember reading a story about Hollywood stars resorting to call girls, and in particular a telling remark from Billy Idol: "I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave."
posted by alumshubby at 12:26 PM on August 4, 2005

Bleh. This whole story just pisses me off. Clearly some pimps are bad for their girls, but does anyone believe that the guy who ran this operation was really exploiting women? Where's the harm?

And of course they froze all his bank accounts so that he can't even pay his own bail, and thus rots in jail.

And what could possibly be the benefit of arresting this woman? Someone making $2000/hr is not going to be spreading diseases, and if she was exploited would throwing her in jail make her less "oppressed".

I can't understand who these people are supposed to be hurting.

I'd heard about her, but I still wonder what makes a girl worth 2k/hr. I'm not the kind who pays for sex (except maybe dinner and a movie) but that price tag is just absurd.

With a girl like her, I'm pretty sure they're paying for the companionship, not just the sex. I would imagine that someone like her (an actress) would be able to make a client feel like they were having sex with someone who really loved them, or whatever it is they wanted.
posted by delmoi at 12:26 PM on August 4, 2005 [1 favorite]

For reference: when one is operating a profitable illegal business, it is ill-advised to gloat on television.

Well part of it (at least for the pimp) was PR. Like any business, the more press the more business.

He actually tried to hire Lizzy Grubman at one point.
posted by delmoi at 12:28 PM on August 4, 2005

Yep, you need to read the whole article. They're paying for GFE: the "girl-friend experience."
posted by Mo Nickels at 12:54 PM on August 4, 2005

After reading through a number of reviews on punternet.com (a UK review site of "working girls", discovering through the famous P_G hooker thread), I was surprised at the number of guys who seemed to be looking for the GFE, not just the sexual act itself. Several mentioned that they were proud to give the girl they were with an orgasm; I thought it funny they wouldn't think a hooker would fake it.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 1:05 PM on August 4, 2005 [1 favorite]

Like any business, the more press the more business.

And more police attention, too. But these rocket scientists didn't think of that.
posted by jonmc at 1:09 PM on August 4, 2005

Well, thank God we're all safer now. Also, I'm glad we're going to be paying to prosecute them. At least rich men won't be able to find beautiful women to have sex with them anymore.
posted by callmejay at 1:19 PM on August 4, 2005

I refuse to believe any of this until I see her Flickr™ photos and a blog.
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 1:27 PM on August 4, 2005

Several mentioned that they were proud to give the girl they were with an orgasm; I thought it funny they wouldn't think a hooker would fake it.

Well, she never faked it with me. I would know if she had.
posted by papercake at 1:29 PM on August 4, 2005

Well, thank God we're all safer now. Also, I'm glad we're going to be paying to prosecute them.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm in favor of legalized, regulated prostitution. I just think it's dumb that they bragged about it on TV.
posted by jonmc at 1:32 PM on August 4, 2005

I just think it's dumb that they bragged about it on TV.

I think that specific offense is called "contempt of cop."
posted by me & my monkey at 1:40 PM on August 4, 2005

That does it. I'm raising my hourly rate to $2000 an hour too.
posted by Outlawyr at 1:55 PM on August 4, 2005

Well, she never faked it with me. I would know if she had.

Heh, I always found that screamingly funny. There was some UK rating site I perused a while back, basically listing reviews of working girls in and around London. I remember reading a bunch of reviews where the guys were all like "I know she came-- there are just some things a woman cannot fake". Uh, guys? That is her job. And apparently she is very good at it.

This is not to say prostitutes do not sometimes enjoy themselves, but really.
posted by oflinkey at 2:01 PM on August 4, 2005

Here is a funny idea: legalize prostitution but have the license report how easy it is to make her cum (as determined by objective medial procedures, which exist BTW).

I've known women who were just geniuses with the guys heads (although not necessarily with other parts). Those top male hostes in Japan are perhaps similar. Either that or marketing is what would make real money.
posted by jeffburdges at 2:12 PM on August 4, 2005

I can really define the 2k reason, not for average joes like you and me. Can you imagine being a quarterback, CEO, celebrity and just wanting a little action? Nearly impossible. Getting hookers off the street is dangerous physically and to your reputation (see above).

Also if you're an actress, as Gawker.com points out, don't use your ho name so close to your real name (it's what Misty is for). Feed the Herd Theatre Company
posted by geoff. at 2:29 PM on August 4, 2005

You know, eye candy at a classy restaurant, conversation at a swanky art gallery.

You mean I could be getting paid for that?
posted by scody at 2:33 PM on August 4, 2005

I'd heard about her, but I still wonder what makes a girl worth 2k/hr.

In 2004, Natalia recorded an unprecedented seventeen straight 10/10s. On the TER ratings scale, a 10 was defined as “one in a lifetime.” Natalia was the Perfect 10, the queen of the escort world.

Those ratings were bought and paid for, so she became the "top rated" girl in New York.

And the "per hour" is exaggerated, she was more of the 10 hour coke binge companion.
posted by StickyCarpet at 2:44 PM on August 4, 2005

"I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave."

For reference sake, Billy Idol did not come up with this. I've read it in, I believe, Mamet, and Roth (as early as Professor of Desire and late as Human Stain: "the whores' great wisdom: 'Men don't pay you to sleep with them. They pay you to go home.'").

I assume it's a rather ancient adage.
posted by dobbs at 2:52 PM on August 4, 2005

Note to self: when earning a living committing a criminal act, do not brag about it on television.

I have always wondered why all the police don't just wait outside the Springer studio and pop the child abusing, meth-dealing, brother-fucking whores as they stumble out the door into the harsh Chi town sun. I'm thinking a cop could build a good career scooping these people up, hell, they just confessed on national television. Sounds like a lock to me.

Second note to self: after being busted for ignoring note #1, cop to something foolish and write the book while on house arrest.
posted by cedar at 3:07 PM on August 4, 2005

$2,000 per hour is just too much. Now, $400 for 12 minutes? That's a rate plan I can live with.
posted by psmealey at 3:14 PM on August 4, 2005

When you mention Roth, I assume you reference the musings of the great "Diamond" David Lee, yes?
posted by stenseng at 3:15 PM on August 4, 2005

I want one of this schmuck's titanium business cards.
posted by ktoad at 3:35 PM on August 4, 2005

I can't understand who these people are supposed to be hurting.

The client's wives, children, other supposedly loved ones?
posted by scheptech at 3:43 PM on August 4, 2005

I wasn't responding to you, jonmc, just the situation.
posted by callmejay at 3:54 PM on August 4, 2005

Anyone know where I can get a better picture of her? ...other than the very small one of her ass in the bathroom....

I just want to know what $2000/hr looks like.
posted by Moral Animal at 4:06 PM on August 4, 2005

From the article, describing a crackdown by the NYPD: Reeling, pros were declaring the business “holocausted” as girls took down their Websites and worried johns stayed home.

"Holocausted" is a verb now? I can't wait for Madden to use it to decribe a tackle on MNF.
posted by iron chef morimoto at 4:08 PM on August 4, 2005

I can't understand who these people are supposed to be hurting.

The client's wives, children, other supposedly loved ones?

So the state is prepared to prosecute me for straight-up adultery, then, no money involved?
posted by dreamsign at 4:33 PM on August 4, 2005

It's not so much that the girl is worth so much, it's that for the people who pay $2k isn't *that* much money.
posted by clevershark at 4:41 PM on August 4, 2005

I just want to know what $2000/hr looks like.

You realize the story has eleven pages, right?
posted by Kwantsar at 5:37 PM on August 4, 2005

I can't understand who these people are supposed to be hurting.

The client's wives, children, other supposedly loved ones?

No, that doesn't make logical sense - the clients are far more culpible in hurting their wives than a 3rd party who the client doesn't even inform about his/her marriage, yet the hammer comes down on the more innocent party and completely ignores the perpetrator.

I'm thinking it's just unthinking puritanism making the world a worse place. I can't understand who these people are supposed to be hurting.


This reminds me of an Onion acticle, headlined something like:
Woman arrested in sex-for-money scandal
And goes on with shocking details about how a women was caught living in a home payed for by a man she had sex with, who also lived there, and bought her clothes, gave her money etc. The neighbours were shocked - she had always seemed like a normal housewife. (Which was the point - she was a normal housewife and her husband was the breadwinner of the two. Scandalous! :-)
posted by -harlequin- at 5:51 PM on August 4, 2005

Oops, remove the second pasting of "I can't understand who these people are supposed to be hurting" from my above post - that wasn't mean to be there. Copy and paste error :-(
posted by -harlequin- at 5:52 PM on August 4, 2005

Actually, the idea of being with someone who's job it is to manipulate your emotions without you being aware is what creeps me out - I tend to get distrustful of people when they have a motive to not be genuine and I have no way of telling whether they're being genuine or not.

Euphamism of the day: Let's not call it prostitution, let's call it Applied Psychology :-)
posted by -harlequin- at 5:57 PM on August 4, 2005

This thread is useless without pics.



There you go. $2000 a day.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 7:14 PM on August 4, 2005

$2000 an hour, C_D
posted by bashos_frog at 7:28 PM on August 4, 2005

harlequin: How could you not be aware of it? Couldn't you just always assume the person was not being genuine.

Actual relationships on the other hand...
posted by ODiV at 7:38 PM on August 4, 2005

2000/hr may be well worthwhile if you're trying to make a good impression on the higher-ups at a company social function, vying for a serious promotion.
posted by -harlequin- at 7:41 PM on August 4, 2005

ODiV:
You're not aware of it because you don't know where she's really at. Say she compliments you on something, WTF do you do with that - assume she's lying? Maybe she isn't. Maybe it's somewhere in between. You just wouldn't know. Anything they say could be honest or it could be the job talking. For many people, that's ok - they'll just assume it's the job talking and be ok with that, but I feely really uncomfortable forcing myself to be suspicious of everything someone says. Suspicious just isn't fun.
(Unless it's a party game like "werewolf") :)
posted by -harlequin- at 7:47 PM on August 4, 2005

Adultery isn't illegal.
posted by delmoi at 8:31 PM on August 4, 2005

Presumably she's so damn good that even your most guarded suspicions melt away in her company.

But I mean, come on. Every top-shelf product benefits from its reputation and also its price. You pay for the name brand.
posted by dreamsign at 8:59 PM on August 4, 2005

While I do support legalized, regulated prostitution, I find the fact that this article idolizes a prostitute to be kind of repulsive. Just because prostitution should be legal doesn't make it a glamorous profession that everyone should want to be in.

And just to be catty, is this girl supposed to be extremely attractive or just extremely attractive for a hooker? 'Cause she's about as pretty as half the girls I know (not an insult).
posted by scarymonsterrrr at 9:21 PM on August 4, 2005

Nordic Courtesan. 7 days, $20k. (and she's doing DUOS with Angel in Vancouver this week...) /fark

Money exchanged is exclusively for time and companionship. Anything else that may or may not happen is a matter of personal choice and personal preference between two consenting adults of legal age and is not contracted for, nor is it requested to be contracted for, or compensated for in any manner whatsoever.
posted by shoepal at 9:59 PM on August 4, 2005

They must mean attractive as a hooker; if that photo is a true representative of what she looks like, she's just this side of coyote ugly. No curves whatsoever and a man-face.

jeffburdges: There was a documentary on one of the public stations a few months ago where the producer interviewed escorts. Every one of them said that they felt nothing at all when they were with johns. Sex for pay was no more sexualy arousing to them than cleaning the toilet. It was a job, pure and simple, and faking it was part of the package.
posted by watsondog at 10:08 PM on August 4, 2005

Metafilter: Let's not call it prostitution, let's call it Applied Psychology.
posted by al_fresco at 12:01 AM on August 5, 2005

> No curves whatsoever and a man-face

But she's working out of New York. If she had any more curves, people would think she's a lard arse-- not a supermodel, which presumably is how she markets herself.

Ultimately though, sexual attraction is less about looks and more about charisma and ability to flirt appropriately. As long as her features are reasonably symmetrical (and they appear so to me), I'm guessing that the personality and marketing are what brings in the bucks.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 12:14 AM on August 5, 2005

"Adultery isn't illegal.
posted by delmoi at 11:31 PM EST on August 4 [!]"

Hmm, any lawheads out there know if Adultery in and of itself is a Tort? If not, is it just a cuase of action in Divorce court?
posted by BeerGrin at 6:15 AM on August 5, 2005

$2000 an hour, C_D

(Picks up jaw from floor)...
But... it's a maaan, man.
posted by Civil_Disobedient at 6:25 AM on August 5, 2005

Some people blow $2000 on a game of blackjack that lasts all of a minute. But that standard, she's budget :-)
posted by -harlequin- at 7:12 AM on August 5, 2005

If you had a billion dollars to your name, you could invest conservatively, re-invest half the profits, pay your taxes, and STILL have $60,000/day of disposable income.

There are a lot of people who have so much money, it's hard to comprehend.
posted by mosch at 9:23 AM on August 5, 2005

-harlequin- - that's exactly why i'm always vaguely uncomfortable in vegas. and strip clubs.

...i find it rather unfortunate, this problem with profit motive driven disingenuousness. I suspect that these people are probably good at their faking, and if I could just suspend disbelief I'd have more fun.
posted by flaterik at 9:35 AM on August 5, 2005