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	<title>Comments on: Old School Erotica</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:46:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Old School Erotica</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.gregkucera.com/shunga.htm"&gt;Japanese Shunga &amp; Other Erotica (NSFW)&lt;/a&gt; : &quot;In these examples of Japanese shunga we see a great variety of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gregkucera.com/images/shunga_wom_man_recip_oral_web.jpg&quot;&gt;lovemaking techniques&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gregkucera.com/images/shunga_teacher_students_web.jpg&quot;&gt;situations&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gregkucera.com/images/shungacartouche_rabbit_web.jpg&quot;&gt;positions&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gregkucera.com/images/shunga_penis_bell_web.jpg&quot;&gt;possibilities&lt;/a&gt;. Whether heterosexual or homosexual, the diversity of sexual behaviors expressed within this artform offer a glimpse of the sexual freedoms available in previous eras and cultures.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:42:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ddf</dc:creator>		<category>greg</category>		<category>kucera</category>		<category>shunga</category>		<category>japanese</category>		<category>asian</category>		<category>erotica</category>
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		<title>By: Kickstart70</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057429</link>	
		<description>Geez...I thought Japanese tentacle porn was something knew. Shattered my world view, this did.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:46:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kickstart70</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Kickstart70</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057430</link>	
		<description>s/knew/new/</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:46:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: undule</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057438</link>	
		<description>[Top shelf.]</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:52:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>undule</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: null terminated</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057445</link>	
		<description>Are the men comicly large because they&apos;re the ones commissioning the drawings?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:58:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>null terminated</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rdone</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057446</link>	
		<description>Just in: modern tentacle shunga.

PuffiAmiYumi does Cthulu!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 15:59:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: undule</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057447</link>	
		<description>-- from the same site, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gregkucera.com/wicklander.htm&quot;&gt;interesting sculpture&lt;/a&gt;, toward the bottom in particular.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:02:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>undule</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dsword</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057462</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Man inserting dildo into woman&apos;s vagina 
4.75 x 7 inches  $400. Click to enlarge.&lt;/i&gt;

4.75? Is that circumference or diameter?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:14:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ddf</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057473</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Are the men comicly large because they&apos;re the ones commissioning the drawings?&lt;/em&gt;

Because the pictures were so small, the focus of the pictures needed to be rendered larger than life.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:24:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clevershark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057484</link>	
		<description>There&apos;s something terribly comical about the man &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gregkucera.com/images/shunga_wom_dildo_man_watch_web.jpg&quot;&gt;in this picture&lt;/a&gt; (NSFW obviously), don&apos;t you think?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:36:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thirteenkiller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057488</link>	
		<description>Excuse me, but what&apos;s going on in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gregkucera.com/images/shunga_yellowrag_web.jpg&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; one?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:40:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thirteenkiller</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: crocos</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057489</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/user/27476&quot;&gt;dsword&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;4.75? Is that circumference or diameter?&lt;hr&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Heh, true. Width, methinks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:41:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clevershark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057495</link>	
		<description>thirteenkiller &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/45419#1057488&apos;&gt;writes&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;&quot;Excuse me, but what&apos;s going on in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gregkucera.com/images/shunga_yellowrag_web.jpg&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; one?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Evidently the Japanese enthusiasm for the, er, &lt;i&gt;manual&lt;/i&gt; aspects of male-female sex is not something that started in recent movies...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:44:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nightchrome</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057500</link>	
		<description>The sad thing is, this kind of graphic depiction is no longer legal here. Most Japanese will probably never see this part of their history. Thanks a lot America.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:48:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: artifarce</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057509</link>	
		<description>The women are also comically large...

Odd that I knew all the answers to the questions asked. Perhaps I&apos;m a little too &quot;interested&quot; in this post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:57:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thirteenkiller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057556</link>	
		<description>But clevershark, the poop! What about the poop?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:57:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sotonohito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057570</link>	
		<description>nightchrome: I thought the Diet ended the censorship laws a couple of years back?  Didn&apos;t I read an article here about the newly freed publishing industry showing pubes in ads in mainstream magazines?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:08:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057576</link>	
		<description>No Zodiac position for my year :_(</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:10:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nightchrome</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057581</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;sotonohito&lt;/b&gt;, as far as I know they did not end them but merely revised them. Pubes are okay, genitals are still out. Most porn works around it by clever use of mosaic tiling, but even so, showing the naughty bits is a no-no.
Amusingly enough, this has caused many soft-core pornographers to &quot;overdose&quot; on pubes to cover up genitals. Look at any softcore japanese porn (simple nudes) and you will often see women with what looks like a full-grown tribble between their legs extending from front to back.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:13:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nightchrome</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: qwip</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057586</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;But clevershark, the poop! What about the poop?&lt;/i&gt;

Erm..., I don&apos;t think that is poop, but rather his veined member on the low down.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:15:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HyperBlue</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057592</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;But clevershark, the poop! What about the poop?

Erm..., I don&apos;t think that is poop, but rather his veined member on the low down.
posted by qwip at 8:15 PM CST on September 26 [!]&lt;/em&gt;

or, poop &lt;em&gt;on &lt;/em&gt;his veined member on the low down...&lt;cough ahem&gt;&lt;/cough&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:19:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>HyperBlue</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: PenguinBukkake</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057616</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;It should be noted that even the quantity of the sperm ejaculated is exaggerated to the point of overflow. &lt;/em&gt;

medieval bukkake?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:35:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PenguinBukkake</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: clevershark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057648</link>	
		<description>thirteenkiller &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/45419#1057556&apos;&gt;writes&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;&quot;But clevershark, the poop! What about the poop?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I hadn&apos;t noticed that. Ewwwww! I guess one can now credit the Japanese for inventing &lt;i&gt;scheisseporn&lt;/i&gt; as well?!?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:14:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>clevershark</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: If I Had An Anus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057653</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.artoflegendindia.com/browse/PS/&apos;&gt;This site&lt;/a&gt; doesn&apos;t provide the same scholarly insight, but the painting titles sure are funny.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:18:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clevershark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057679</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artoflegendindia.com/browse/PS/&quot;&gt;This site&lt;/a&gt; doesn&apos;t provide the same scholarly insight, but the painting titles sure are funny.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Yikes! Frankly if I ever go to someone&apos; house and they have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artoflegendindia.com/details/PSAE002&quot;&gt;this print framed on a wall&lt;/a&gt;, I&apos;d probably take my leave rather quickly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:41:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>clevershark</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: BlackLeotardFront</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057692</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gregkucera.com/images/shunga_wom_3_men_19th.jpg&quot;&gt;Gotu sekuse!&lt;/a&gt; (obviously and severely nsfw)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:53:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BlackLeotardFront</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: astonealeafanunfounddoor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057725</link>	
		<description>sotonohito and nightcrome,  

As a great fan of Japonica generally,  and Japanese wood blook prints particularly (huge Utamaro fan),  I&apos;m horrified to find that this art is outlawed in Japan.  

I&apos;ve always considered the Japanese matter of fact attitude towards sex to be much more civilized than American or European puritanism.

What caused the change in attitude to shunga?  When were the laws passed?  How did this happen?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:38:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>astonealeafanunfounddoor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Sangermaine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057731</link>	
		<description>astonealeafanunfounddoor,
The anti-porn laws were passed by the American Occupation authorities after Japan&apos;s defeat in WWII.  This is why all Japanese porn is pixelated, blocking out the genital area.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:44:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nightchrome</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057735</link>	
		<description>Like I said, thanks a lot America.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:48:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nightchrome</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jadepearl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057770</link>	
		<description>If you want more information about Japanese sexual mores and behaviours consider the somewhat dubiously titled, &quot;Pink Samurai&quot; which has a decent compressed history of Japan and provides somewhat dated but interesting material.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:38:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kingfisher, his musclebound cat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057857</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yikes! Frankly if I ever go to someone&apos; house and they have this print framed on a wall, I&apos;d probably take my leave rather quickly.&lt;/i&gt;

But, wow, you can send it as an ecard!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 02:35:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dgaicun</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1057864</link>	
		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;As for the animated porn I did watch in hopes of gleaning some insight into the Japanese id? I have this to say: Go away, Japanese id! You are scary! I am scared of you!&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

- &lt;a href=http://slate.msn.com/id/2089630/entry/2089646&gt;Seth Stevenson&lt;/a&gt;. Slate.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 03:07:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maxsparber</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/45419/Old-School-Erotica#1058097</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s like they were predicting scenes from my life.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:13:54 -0800</pubDate>
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