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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 4553</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:58:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 4553</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.wvec.com/news/local/mcchicken_head.htm"&gt;Chicken&apos;s head found in fast food order at McDonald&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; [via &lt;a href=&quot;http://MeatFilter.com&quot;&gt;MeatFilter.com&lt;/a&gt;] &quot;Katherine Ortega said she found a fried chicken&apos;s head in the box of chicken wings she ordered Tuesday night&quot;  The picture of the chicken head is not to be missed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:17:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Outlawyr</dc:creator>		<category>mcdonalds</category>		<category>chickenhead</category>		<category>food</category>		<category>fastfood</category>		<category>gross</category>
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		<title>By: hijinx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32745</link>	
		<description>This was on the news yesterday and disgusted me to no end.  But it&apos;s also funny in a sadistic way.

If you need motivation to not eat the &quot;chicken&quot; at McDonald&apos;s, or to be a vegetarian, here it is!

Thanks for posting this - I was looking for it last night.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:58:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>hijinx</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: stellabee</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32747</link>	
		<description>I have been considering vegetarianism for a while. Thanks for the push!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:01:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: m.polo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32748</link>	
		<description>&quot;Parts is parts.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:14:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thirteen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32749</link>	
		<description>I have unpleasant images in my head as I try to conjure up what a meatfilter would look like.I stopped eating most fast food years ago, after one of my coworkers called Taco Bell, &quot;TB&quot; and I was unable to break the mnemonic tuberculosis connection that formed. Ick.I don&apos;t wanna stop eating meat, but I would like to stop paying others to do my killing for me. Someday I will only eat what I kill, and meat eating will be a solemn seldom done thing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:15:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32750</link>	
		<description>Parts is parts is right! 
Why is it grosser to eat a chicken head than a leg?  Why do people who eat chicken legs squeal in disgust when I get chicken feet at the dim sum? Yep, there&apos;s plenty of good reasons to be veg and I applaud them all.  I don&apos;t eat &apos;em often, but if god didn&apos;t want us to eat animals, s/he wouldn&apos;t have made &apos;em out of meat.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:17:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tallman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32755</link>	
		<description>When I saw that picture, I instantly thought that was a fake news article, like one I would read on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbspot.com&quot;&gt;BBspot&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onion.com&quot;&gt;Onion&lt;/a&gt;...  But its real.  And I&apos;m not all that suprised.  How sad is that?

~tallman</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:29:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stefnet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32757</link>	
		<description>My question is: what McDonald&apos;s sells &quot;chicken wings&quot;? They&apos;re McNuggets, for heaven&apos;s sake. 

Of course, I have reduced myself to only being able to eat the fries from McDonald&apos;s. At least Burger King&apos;s chicken sandwich, processed as it is, has a semi-edible flavor to it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:35:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gyc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32758</link>	
		<description>McDonald&apos;s has been selling chicken wings in addition to McNuggets recently. I mean, now at least you know they use actual chicken for their chicken wings and not something else.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:37:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: highindustrial</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32769</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I stopped eating most fast food years ago, after one of my coworkers called Taco Bell, &quot;TB&quot; and I was unable to break the mnemonic tuberculosis connection that formed.&lt;/i&gt;
thirteen: I know exactly what you mean. A friend of mine refers to Boston Market as &quot;BM.&quot; Same implications.
(Unrelated: I wonder how many people accidentally end up on MetaFilter by mistyping MeatFilter, and vice versa?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:42:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dcehr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32771</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Unrelated: I wonder how many people accidentally end up on MetaFilter by mistyping MeatFilter, and vice versa?)&lt;/i&gt;

...or the little-known corollary site, &quot;meatlifter&quot;. Porn, most likely. Either that or it&apos;s an e-spatula concern.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:52:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: megnut</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32776</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m getting a DNS error when I follow the link. Anybody grab the photo while they were there, by any chance? For some gross reason, I really want to see it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:34:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hijinx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32777</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?x12728977&quot;&gt;New link, courtesy of NewsBlogger&lt;/a&gt;. :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:42:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hijinx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32778</link>	
		<description>...And, &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.ibsys.com/2000/1129/186704.jpg&quot;&gt;a slightly different angle&lt;/a&gt;.  Note the fine deep-frying.  &lt;i&gt;Mmmm!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:44:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ookamaka</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32783</link>	
		<description>YUMMY!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:10:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: remo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32797</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pilotonline.com/videoNEWS/nw1130hea.html&quot;&gt; Here is a video of the local news story on the chicken head.&lt;/a&gt;
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:38:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32800</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t see why anyone should be so shocked and disgusted.  It&apos;s junk food.  What do you think junk food is?  I&apos;m sure Chicken McNuggets is nothing more than 100 percent pure chicken head.  I bet they&apos;ve even got a little of that chicken head in the chocolate shakes.  Face it, when you&apos;re going to McDonald&apos;s you&apos;ll be eating chicken head.  I&apos;m surprised it hadn&apos;t come out earlier.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:05:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cCranium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32812</link>	
		<description>Yeah, but at least they grind it up before mixing it in with the secret sauce.  I don&apos;t mind eating it, just so long as I don&apos;t have to chew through the comb.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:40:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ljc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32822</link>	
		<description>Wow! So they are using REAL chicken in their nuggets! What might I find in my big mac?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:04:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rschram</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32824</link>	
		<description>So, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.meatfilter.com&quot;&gt;Meatfilter.com&lt;/a&gt; is a reality. I just want to go on record as the original genius who &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/3072#17930&quot;&gt;coined the term&lt;/a&gt;. My royalties can be sent to my Paypal account. 

Or at least a note about this new veggie weblog...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:14:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 120degrees</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32827</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Ortega said she wants to know how the chicken&apos;s head could have made it past inspectors and into the hands of a customer.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

What I want to know is, when the heck did McD&apos;s start selling chicken WINGS? That&apos;s news to me. Not like the McNuggets aren&apos;t already cookie-cut out shapes of various chicken parts? New sandwich idea, the McBeak?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:22:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gyc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32843</link>	
		<description>Maybe this is to coincide w/ the video release of Chicken Run?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:05:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zool</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32846</link>	
		<description>Is everyone aware that there is no prime bit of beef in any of McDonalds&apos; burgers, it&apos;s all the reject cow bits no one wants to eat that gets minced into those meat patties. So that chicken head thing doesn&apos;t suprise me one bit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:14:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: daveadams</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32849</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is everyone aware that there is no prime bit of beef in any of McDonalds&apos; burgers, it&apos;s all the reject cow bits no one wants to eat that gets minced into those meat patties.&lt;/i&gt;

Mmm, but that tasteless, low-grade meat makes for a good burger.  Nothing tops a quarter pounder with cheese, mustard, and ketchup with fries and a coke if you&apos;re in the mood for fast food.  YUM!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:04:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mr. skullhead</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32868</link>	
		<description>Eek. Anyone who eats fast food has a lot more to worry about than chicken heads. A friend of mine who once worked at Taco Bell once told me that the meat that they use is lower grade than the meat they use for dog food. Having eaten their tacos, I tend to agree. </description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:20:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wizzle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32877</link>	
		<description>Ah!  I knew something was missing from the Turdurken!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:54:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ZachsMind</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32890</link>	
		<description>Compared to Europe, I don&apos;t think the occasional chicken head in McNuggets is that bad at all. &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/germany/11/30/bse.soil/index.html&quot;&gt;Germany&lt;/A&gt; is perhaps the latest country to take action regarding mandatory beef testing. England, France, and several other countries have also had to face this dilemma. 

It has been perhaps a routine and ignorantly innocent solution for many animal farmers. This practice may be decades old, if not older. In order to resolve waste and keep the costs down, farmers would grind meat and bone into the equivalent of normal vegetable feed, mixing it with such so that the living animals can&apos;t tell the difference. It&apos;s cost-effective, and since we&apos;re dealing with dumb animals, they wouldn&apos;t care. So what if they&apos;re forcefully turned into cannibals? They&apos;re just cows. Kinda reminds me of &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~ntucs82/PEOPLE/b2506017/sf/v.html&quot;&gt;Soylent Green&lt;/A&gt;. 

However, unlike vegetable feed, animal matter treated in this way is susceptible to bacteria and other causes of spoilage. If not kept properly, this ground up crap wouldn&apos;t be fit for flies. Also, if they&apos;re using refuse for feed, who knows what might be discarded for later use in this way? 

It was and is an accident waiting to happen. Here in America, there are allegedly systems set up with both government and private organizations to perform checks and keep the food supply safe. Granted, they&apos;re not perfect. They&apos;re run by humans. They are fallible. However, in comparison, I think we&apos;re doing pretty well. I mean, in a country where the arguments against McDonalds consist of one chicken head found with the wings, and an accusation that they make their coffee too hot (???), I&apos;d rather go to a McDonalds here in the US than anywhere else. </description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:28:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mr. skullhead</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32892</link>	
		<description>Good point, ZachsMind. That&apos;s exactly where  Mad Cow Disease comes from (not from bacteria, but from feeding left over cow brains back to cows).&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.cjd.ed.ac.uk/booklet.htm&quot;&gt;Cannibalism&lt;/A&gt; in New Guinea caused the same type of illness. </description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:45:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aki</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32909</link>	
		<description>Its amazing the number of people that &apos;mistake&apos; had to go through in order for it to happen. the most amazing of which is probably the bit where the work experience kid packed it into the box.

But besides that, the concept of a fried chicken head really isn&apos;t that disgusting, and it really shouldn&apos;t be any different to any other chicken part. Its actually very customary, if not required, in most Chinese restaurants to include the fried head (and often, the buttocks) of the chicken (as it is cooked in whole). Whether you wish to eat it or not is your business (most don&apos;t). 

So yeah it was a mistake, but its not a danger to their health or something as incredibly disgusting as the news and the &apos;victim&apos; makes it out to be. People seem to be freaking out as though it was that fried rat at KFC (insert link to urban myths site)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:53:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32918</link>	
		<description>Wow, &lt;i&gt;buttocks of the chicken&lt;/i&gt;!  What further proof do we need that this is truly a miracle bird?  After Mother Nature made her, she broke the mould.  I&apos;m thinking of blowing everything off and just hanging out at McDonalds all day eating ChickenHeads and McButtock Sandwiches.  Can&apos;t get enough of this stuff, no way.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:16:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: daveadams</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32940</link>	
		<description>What&apos;s wrong with eating buttocks?  The best meat on pigs and cows comes from the rump.  I know less about the muscular structure of chickens, but I imagine there are lots of strong, tender muscles around that area.

Now, the head, I&apos;m not so sure I like that idea, but generally, the meat I like is the &lt;i&gt;muscle&lt;/i&gt; of the animal in question.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2000 08:35:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: evilmaryellen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32973</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I imagine there are lots of strong, tender muscles around that area.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Ass sphincter say what? It&apos;s bony and tough, which is why I don&apos;t make a habit out of eating chicken butts.

I personally think someone put the chicken head in the batter as a joke for some kid to find. &quot;Mommy! There&apos;s a head in my food!&quot; Like Aki says, there&apos;s no real harm in doing so because it&apos;s not a safety hazard like a roach or a rat would be.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2000 12:17:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: th3ph17</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#32981</link>	
		<description>it could just be test marketing--probably some parts of the world might consider deep-fried chicken head a real swell treat....they done &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scratchingpost.com/mcmoby/index.shtml&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;other lame things&lt;/a&gt; like that....</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2000 12:53:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thirteen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#33051</link>	
		<description>I had a McLobster sandwich many years back, and it was not good. More like a cold lobstersalad sandwich. I don&apos;t like lobster in the first place, so it was money ill spent. The only McDonalds thing I ever miss these days were these amazing fries with cheese kurds and gravy that I got in a Montreal McDonald&apos;s while on that same vacation, those were good. Doubly good was the discovery that in Canada they still use the little coffee stir spoons that were banned in the states because they became popular for serving up cocaine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2000 13:47:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thirteen</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cCranium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#33104</link>	
		<description>Thirteen:  You can get poutine (fries with cheese curds and gravy) almost anywhere in Ontario and Quebec, and probably lots of other provinces, if you&apos;re ever in Canada.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2000 04:37:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cCranium</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rhyax</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4553/#251641</link>	
		<description>why is there a link to metafilter on the meatfilter site?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2002 20:08:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rhyax</dc:creator>
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