Comments on: Sex, check. Drugs, check. What, no rock & roll?

Sex, check. Drugs, check. What, no rock & roll?

goodnewsfortheinsane — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:39:38 -0800

Today in the Netherlands, public broadcaster BNN aired the first episode of sex- and drug-themed television show "Spuiten en Slikken"; the punning title translates to either "Shoot Up & Pop (Pills)" or "Squirt & Swallow". [more inside]

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:40:43 -0800

With the first episode of the live 11PM show just finished, forthcoming shows promise to include a 'reporter' using LSD under his mother's watchful eye and taking heroin in pill form. On tonight's show, he went on an Amsterdam drinking binge while in the studio, his colleague watched a couple¹ make love in a sealed conference room and ended up joining in. The show's creators insist they do not intend to create an outcry - as the female presenter said during the programme: "If theres anything we don't want to do with this programme it's get people onto drugs."² However, press announcements of the show did cause dissent with the Dutch Christian Democrat Party, and encouraged a Good Morning America camera crew to fly over for an interview with a presenter. The programme being live, people are encouraged to phone in or send e-mails. As one viewer wrote during the show: "Could you [presenters] please refrain from smoking at the table during the show?"² ¹: I bet they were really professionals in their field, if you catch my drift. ²: Translation mine.

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:41:27 -0800

Note: some of these links are in Dutch, because an English-language equivalent could not be found. Translations upon request.

By: fenriq

fenriq — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:54:46 -0800

Is there any premise aside from the guy doing drugs and being on tv at the same time? Is it educational, informative, info-tainment? Just stupid filler between news broadcasts? Because some of it sounds like discarded Tom Green episodes.

By: dobbs

dobbs — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:02:49 -0800

Wasn't this discussed when the show was original announced? Was the consensus not, "who gives a shit? it's a tv show."?

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:03:08 -0800

Is it educational, informative, info-tainment? That's certainly what it purports to be:

"It certainly isn't shock TV," Van den Broek emphasizes. "Rather, we want to demonstrate well and thoroughly for once what it does to you."

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:05:48 -0800

Wasn't this discussed[...]? Was it? I've done the search but couldn't find a link. If I am mistaken, please prove me wrong.

By: Skeptic

Skeptic — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:10:55 -0800

TV presenters on drugs? Whoah! Never happened before... (Disclaimer: As a matter of fact I am a resident of the Netherlands myself, but I'm sure that cocaine is as unknown a substance in the rest of the world's TV studios as it is here)

By: phatboy

phatboy — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:13:08 -0800

Discussed here with a cryptic title.

By: Postroad

Postroad — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:18:57 -0800

I hope they will soon announce audience participation so I can plan my vacation around their filming (or shooting).

By: freedryk

freedryk — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:21:31 -0800

Have any torrents of this appeared?

By: y2karl

y2karl — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:26:25 -0800

I hope they will soon announce audience participation so I can plan my vacation around their filming (or shooting). Ratings Bonanza Gold!

By: IndigoJones

IndigoJones — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:14:45 -0800

Since we're being astonished once more by the Dutch, meet Victor (or Dr Evil), Mirjam, and Bianca. I just wonder how they divvy up the flatware if it breaks up.

By: I Love Tacos

I Love Tacos — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:27:33 -0800

Perhaps the point is that it will be deeply uninteresting.

By: If I Had An Anus

If I Had An Anus — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:24:18 -0800

People fucking live on TV is uninteresting? Remind me to send my regrets to your wedding invitation. Personally, anything that raises the hackles of FoxNews is Green Acres, the place for me. Pharm livin' is the life for me. Of course, I'm a big fan of the Dutch anyway. Not that I, you know, care. It's a TV show.

By: mrhappy

mrhappy — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:03:57 -0800

Where can I get heroin in pill form?

By: dreamsign

dreamsign — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:11:24 -0800

I read about this awhile back. They say they're just doing a little pop science on topics about which most people are interested. Wouldn't surprise me if there isn't much more to it than that.

By: Mijnkopthee

Mijnkopthee — Tue, 11 Oct 2005 00:30:32 -0800

Paul, i was sort of hoping you wouldn't feed the fox-news-holland-bashing type of trolls. By giving this more attention than it deserves, i think you're only strengthening the wrong idea people have about the netherlands.. (perhaps it should be mentioned that wooden shoes are made in taiwan, imported to the netherlands, and then sold to gullible tourists)

By: PeterMcDermott

PeterMcDermott — Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:10:13 -0800

> Where can I get heroin in pill form? Nowhere. There wouldn't be any point to it. Here in the home of heroin prescribing, we prescribe it almost exclusively for use by injection, because it just isn't very effective when prescribed orally -- it breaks down to morphine, and so offers no advantages over that drug when used orally. Here's a list of the various opiate preparations used in palliative care over here. The Oramorphs and the MST's are various preparations of morphine sulphate for oral use. As you can seem, diamorphine (or heroin) is only available as an ampoule for injection. My personal preference here would be for the 100 mg "man sized", or the 500mg "jumbo sized party pack" diamorphine ampoules, the latter containing a full half a gram of pure pharmacutical heroin in a single dose. Lets see our Dutch TV presenters try one of those on live television.

By: [expletive deleted]

[expletive deleted] — Tue, 11 Oct 2005 03:31:40 -0800

500mg? Jesus, wouldn't that kill an 800lb junkie?

By: fFish

fFish — Tue, 11 Oct 2005 06:29:47 -0800

This sounds like a logical extension to the great BBC series Body Hits.

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:22:16 -0800

Paul, i was sort of hoping you wouldn't feed the fox-news-holland-bashing type of trolls. I don't think anyone interprets this post as trying to do that at all. (I thought the 'moralpanic' tag would be a giveaway.) There aren't that many of those trolls to be found here anyway, at least not in this thread (so far, knock on wood). If anything, I felt it was unique and interesting enough to be postworthy, and I tried to present the material in the most neutral way possible. As for people having a wrong image of the Netherlands, people on MeFi tend to be better informed than in many other places, and if they're not they're often genuinely interested (rather than judgmental). Also, where have you *been*, say, this past year? :)