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	<title>Comments on: The *Original* King Kong Model is Animated One Last Time</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:04:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>The *Original* King Kong Model is Animated One Last Time</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time</link>	
		<description>The *Original* King Kong Model is Animated &lt;a href=&quot;http://img-nex.kongisking.net/kong/movies/PPD-08WeeksToGo_qt6_high.mov&quot;&gt;One Last Time&lt;/a&gt;  (large Quicktime video).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:52:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JPowers</dc:creator>		<category>king</category>		<category>kong</category>		<category>model</category>		<category>film</category>		<category>movies</category>		<category>peter</category>		<category>jackson</category>
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		<title>By: armoured-ant</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1081885</link>	
		<description>Excellent.

And my, hasn&apos;t Peter Jackson lost weight?

(So has Kong, mind...)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:04:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zixyer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1081918</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s funny how much better the animation is than it was in the original movie, even though the animators are using the same tools and presumably had less time because they were just doing it for fun.  I guess people really just sucked at everything back then.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 22:07:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zixyer</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: wumpus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1081926</link>	
		<description>Yeah, unlike now, a time where we&apos;re good at everything.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 22:21:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wumpus</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jonson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1081931</link>	
		<description>Now&apos;s so much more awesome than back then.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 22:30:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jonson</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: JPowers</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1081940</link>	
		<description>Go now!  Boo then!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:07:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JPowers</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1081957</link>	
		<description>zixyer, I think part of the difference was that they could do it with much less effort -- digital video and all -- and the animators at WETA have much greater knowledge of anatomy and animal movement. Plus, more frames per second helps enormously.

While they were manipulating the model on Jackson&apos;s coffee table, I kept half expecting an ominous &lt;i&gt;snap!&lt;/i&gt; followed by expletives. I know it&apos;s steel and looks to be in fabulously maintained condition, lubrication and all, but still, it&apos;s an historic artifact!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:41:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Potsy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1081965</link>	
		<description>Yeah, having personally done a little stop motion animation both with and without immediate video feedback, I can definitely say that it makes things a heck of a lot easier. The WETA people have it of course, but the folks in 1933 didn&apos;t.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:56:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brundlefly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1081984</link>	
		<description>Dang it! I was thinking about posting this. Cool as hell, ain&apos;t it?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:48:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joey Michaels</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1081993</link>	
		<description>Argh!  Peter Jackson!  How dare you get me excited to see a Jack Black filk!  Argh!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:42:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joey Michaels</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Busithoth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1082034</link>	
		<description>I usually watch these on Mondays, but that was cool and completely unexpected.  And zixyer, while I should ignore the troll, I ask you to imagine the state of WETA&apos;s computers in 70 years.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 05:27:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Busithoth</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Bugbread</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1082043</link>	
		<description>Potsy &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/46075#1081965&apos;&gt;:&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;&quot;Yeah, having personally done a little stop motion animation both with and without immediate video feedback, I can definitely say that it makes things a heck of a lot easier.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Having no experience with stop motion, I thank you for the insight.  Would it be correct if I ventured to guess that back then, more time was spent on each frame because they had to make sure that everything was exactly right, while now they can just move the figure a bit without paying as much care, check the result, move whatever was wrong, check again, and repeat until correct?  And that doing it in that faster, but more error-prone, way results in more bad takes but far less time before getting the good take?  Or is that guess off-base?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 05:41:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Songdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1082066</link>	
		<description>bugbread, it&apos;s more that they can compare the current frame with the previous frames and make sure that they have made precisely the movements they intended, that the lighting hasn&apos;t changed, etc.. Without this feedback they didn&apos;t know until they got it all developed. Then they might discover, for instance, that they moved a limb too far for smooth motion and they&apos;d need to decide whether to reshoot the entire scene, cut or edit it, or just use the flawed footage.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 06:26:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Songdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1082068</link>	
		<description>... because this stuff is so time-consuming, even now, that you really only plan on &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt; take.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 06:29:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Songdog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: briank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1082091</link>	
		<description>Very cool short.  Too bad the movie will suck.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 07:09:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>briank</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: NinjaPirate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1082293</link>	
		<description>That is a beautiful piece of mechanics.  The hands, the spine, the fanged skull.
What I&apos;d give to find &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; in a stocking.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:33:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mecran01</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46075/The-Original-King-Kong-Model-is-Animated-One-Last-Time#1082470</link>	
		<description>I wish someone would sell a replica armature.  For now, we&apos;ll have to settle for the animatronic chimpanzee heads that are making the rounds.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 13:40:45 -0800</pubDate>
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