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	<title>Comments on: Hmmmmm pie</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:09:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Hmmmmm pie</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.microprizes.com/mp32.htm"&gt;Eat the pie in 15 bites.&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:06:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kenaman</dc:creator>		<category>puzzle</category>		<category>pie</category>
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		<title>By: kenaman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093789</link>	
		<description>Some more great little timewasters &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.microprizes.com/mpmap.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:09:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StickyCarpet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093794</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;VERY GOOD! You finished the pie in 16 bites. You tied with the previous champion.  Can you beat the record?&lt;/em&gt;

Nah, I&apos;m all full up of pie.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:18:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: terrier319</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093796</link>	
		<description>crap - the edges (crust) kill you ... I&apos;m up to 30 bites after 5 tries and still can&apos;t do it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:20:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rxrfrx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093797</link>	
		<description>19 again...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:20:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zampa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093798</link>	
		<description>16.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:21:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Zampa</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Plutor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093799</link>	
		<description>Sixteen here, too.  If only I could dislocate my jaw..</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:21:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Plutor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: antifuse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093803</link>	
		<description>17 on my first try... nothing better since.  Harumph!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:24:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>antifuse</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: gwint</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093806</link>	
		<description>WW(Takeru Kobayashi)D?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:25:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: verb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093813</link>	
		<description>16. Sooooo frustrating...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:35:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hlewagast</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093815</link>	
		<description>I got 15 on this once, but only once.  Now, I can&apos;t figure it out.  

You can get away with leaving some stray pixel &quot;crumbs&quot; behind, as I remember.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:37:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: riffola</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093817</link>	
		<description>17 on the first try, 16 on the second. I can&apos;t do any better than 16.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:40:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: senor biggles</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093818</link>	
		<description>18, then 16. Any mathematicians care to explain how to do better?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:41:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anastasiav</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093821</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/2854/pie150sa.jpg&quot;&gt;spoiler&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://metachat.org/index.php/2005/09/16/the_difference_between_metafilter_and_fa#c33776&quot;&gt;via metachat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:46:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nervousfritz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093822</link>	
		<description>Why do java applets stop at the firewall whereas flash programs work just fine? (rhetorical question, more to do with the particular firewall I guess)

But it seems like for all Java&apos;s power and promise, Flash delivers a more user-friendly experience. Additionally, I think the only browser to support Java 5 is Internet Explorer. Flash just works.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:46:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: loquacious</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093823</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve never been able to do it in less than 16. I think 15 is a false ceiling, especially so for &quot;less than 15&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 06:46:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: springload</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093838</link>	
		<description>I get 15 repeatably by making a horizontal figure 8 in the center of the pie with little overlap. I can then eat my way around the edge, clockwise from about 1 o&apos;clock. The third piece is the tricky one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 07:04:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: neustile</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093840</link>	
		<description>i did it in 15. the slop w/r/t the crumbs is pretty big. i left a noticeable slice at the end but it still counted as 15.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 07:08:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lectrick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093846</link>	
		<description>16 on my first try.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 07:17:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nile_red</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093852</link>	
		<description>i got 16, but no better : (</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 07:25:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: OmieWise</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093855</link>	
		<description>I was looking forward to some real pie.  (18)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 07:27:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: piratebowling</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093856</link>	
		<description>This game cheats. My count went from 14 to 16.  LIAR!!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 07:28:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smart Dalek</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093913</link>	
		<description>1. 

That&#8217;s right, 1 bite.

&#8216;cause fater that, my stomach&#8217;s no longer empty.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 08:25:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maledictory</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093970</link>	
		<description>15. Barely any crumbs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:21:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rawfishy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093973</link>	
		<description>Burp...(!)  heres how to do it in 15.

Make a bite on the edge of about 75% into the pie and then leaving a space equal to the possible diameter of the bite before taking another 75% bite. The trick here is to take 1 or 2 x 100% bites as well - this pushes you from 16 to 15 at the end.

Cycle around once, then do another cycle for whats left over - then finish off the center carefully. 

If you are too greedy and bite too deep at every bite in the first cycle then the remaining pie gaps are too wide for the bites in the second cycle.

Got the funny feeling i was looking at capitalism in action while playing this....eat all your resources constantly at full capacity, without thinking of the next bite in relationship to the whole picture, and you&apos;ll never get all the pie.

Selective waste in the name of progress is &apos;more&apos; rather than &apos;less&apos; - interesting...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:23:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StarForce5</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093980</link>	
		<description>26 ... 17 ... 17 ... I&apos;m full.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:31:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Darke</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1093998</link>	
		<description>16 on my first try, confirming that you can leave stray crumbs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:54:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darke</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Aknaton</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1094003</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;...eat all your resources constantly at full capacity, without thinking of the next bite in relationship to the whole picture, and you&apos;ll never get all the pie.&lt;/i&gt;

The mathematician&apos;s phrase (IAAM) is &quot;The greedy algorithm fails.&quot;

17 first try, then 15. My line of reasoning first time was &quot;Let&apos;s worry about the crust&quot; and placed all the bites around the outside, in such a way that the points of intersection of the two circles (pie and bite) were actually opposite one another on the bite. That maximizes the around of crust bitten.

However, the crust length is not an integer multiple of the amount bitten this way, as it turns out; it&apos;s 9+something. So one should bite slightly less crust and more pie, in such a way that once one makes it fully around the outside, it takes exactly 10 bites. After that it&apos;s pretty easy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:57:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Aknaton</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: CynicalKnight</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1094021</link>	
		<description>Let them eat cake.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 10:10:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CynicalKnight</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1094023</link>	
		<description>15, first try.  If you go the crust-first route, you have to minimize overlap while maximizing inner area.  The further out you place the circle, the wider area you eat, (until you reach the diameter) but the less inner area you eat.  Try placing the circle about 2/3rds over the edge and you&apos;ll see what I mean.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 10:10:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Civil_Disobedient</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: vagus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1094054</link>	
		<description>I, for one, welcome our new pie eating overlords.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 10:33:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bjrubble</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1094059</link>	
		<description>After rawfishy&apos;s comment, I did in 15 fairly easily.  I think there&apos;s a slightly easier way, though.  First, take a bite on the crust with about 75% of the circle inside the pie.  Then take another bite right next to that on the crust, but make the crust edges touch a diameter of the bite circle (maximizing the amount of crust edge consumed).  Alternate these bites around the crust edge.  At that point, the interior can be finished off with the remaining bites.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 10:39:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrgrimm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1094112</link>	
		<description>Yep, 15 takes a bit of tries, but here&apos;s the easy way.

Each bite is 10.4% of the pie. You have 15 bites, that obviously must average 6.66% each.

Just make sure that you always fill at least 64.1% of the circle with each bite, and you can&apos;t lose. Easy as pie!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 11:09:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smedleyman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1094606</link>	
		<description>Nifty.


I was, um, doing something else with the pie though....but I did it 15 times!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 14:56:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jaronson</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1094795</link>	
		<description>I cannot figure out the mystery animal!?!?!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:04:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JParker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/46358/Hmmmmm-pie#1095102</link>	
		<description>The easy way - start with a bite that has the inner edge of the circle exactly in the middle of the pie.  Now take another bite, mirror image.  Makes a figure 8.  Now take two more bites on the sides to turn it into a four-leafed clover in the middle of the pie.  Now go around the edge, keeping each bite as &lt;em&gt;far away from the center of the pie &lt;/em&gt;as you can.  15 bites, no crumbs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:49:43 -0800</pubDate>
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