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November 11, 2005 7:49 AM   Subscribe

Pat Robertson to Dover, PA: When disaster strikes your city, don't go running to God.
posted by mikrophon (79 comments total)

 
Does continuing to pay attention to Pat Robertson increase or decrease his power? Discuss.
posted by mediareport at 7:51 AM on November 11, 2005


Oh man, this thread will be longer then heck. Im going to avoid it. Re: Robertson, wow, where is the voice of reason? Where is the preacher who preaches acceptance and love? Where is the sanity?
posted by wheelieman at 7:52 AM on November 11, 2005


It truly amazes me that someone who's supposed to believe in an all powerful god could be soo arrogant to think that they not only know exactly what god wants, but god will do their bidding and reign terror down on people who in such petty ways rebuke god.

And secondly, didn't all those school board members testify that this *wasn't* religious? If it's not religious, how can god be upset?
posted by delmoi at 7:57 AM on November 11, 2005


What in the hell does Pat Robertson know about God?
posted by loquacious at 7:57 AM on November 11, 2005


And secondly, didn't all those school board members testify that this *wasn't* religious? If it's not religious, how can god be upset?

That is one hell of a point.
posted by brain_drain at 7:59 AM on November 11, 2005


Hugo Chavez should take him out.
posted by Cyrano at 8:00 AM on November 11, 2005


"God is tolerant and loving, but we can't keep sticking our finger in his eye forever"

Whatever happened to "slow to chide and swift to bless"?
posted by patricio at 8:04 AM on November 11, 2005


Pat Robertson treats the Bible as something important and to be taken seriously. He doesn't praise the general aura of the Bible as being of vague spiritual importance while ignoring the vast majority of its content. He's an idiot, but unlike most religious people he is by and large "intellectually honest".

fol-de-rol
posted by Pretty_Generic at 8:05 AM on November 11, 2005


"[you] voted God out of your city"

I repeat the comment I made in another thread where I first saw a link to this: The real question here is which one of the eight ousted school board members Pat thinks is God. And what was He doing in a school board election in the middle of Pennsylvania.
posted by nkyad at 8:06 AM on November 11, 2005


Charles Darwin is just as likely to help them in their hour of need as God is.
posted by Floydd at 8:08 AM on November 11, 2005


This was news yesterday

[old]
posted by thirteenkiller at 8:09 AM on November 11, 2005


Game, Set and Match to Floydd.
posted by mikrophon at 8:09 AM on November 11, 2005


Double post?
posted by GuyZero at 8:10 AM on November 11, 2005


Don't worry Dover, so far Orlando has managed to avoid those earthquakes and meteors that Pat promised them in 1998 when there was a Gay Day event at DisneyWorld
posted by thewittyname at 8:13 AM on November 11, 2005


Robertson is today's carrion for the vultures of the mass media.
But it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
posted by flatlander at 8:16 AM on November 11, 2005


but unlike most religious people he is by and large "intellectually honest".

*gags*

Yeah, right. He's the worst kind of self-aggrandizing charlatan; read thewittyname's link for just one example of his convenient style of "intellectual honesty." Robertson clearly says this kind of thing for the attention and money it gets him. We'll all be better off when more folks refrain from vaulting him to front-page news status. Don't feed the trolls, indeed.
posted by mediareport at 8:21 AM on November 11, 2005


So the other day, when I was shopping, I asked the store manager where he kept the oversized, gigantic douchebags.

He pointed me to aisle 7 (health & beauty aids!) and what did I see but an entire shelf full of Pat Robertsons!
posted by wakko at 8:22 AM on November 11, 2005


If any additional proof were needed, Robertson's remarks demonstrate that "Intelligent Design" is nothing more than Creationism wrapped in a pseudoscientific shell. Judge Jones, please take judicial notice.
posted by rdone at 8:23 AM on November 11, 2005


Does this mean that if God's out, that The Flying Spaghetti Monster is in?

Will there be a Texas Steel Cage Death Match between God and TFSM?

Will the winner get the Championship Belt?
posted by willmize at 8:26 AM on November 11, 2005


He pointed me to aisle 7 (health & beauty aids!) and what did I see but an entire shelf full of Pat Robertsons!

Ha, we sell out of that stuff here in Texas. People can't buy enough!
posted by Peter H at 8:27 AM on November 11, 2005


fuck Dr. Marion Robertson and his wannabe christian alter ego.
posted by svenvog at 8:28 AM on November 11, 2005


[self] I love the image of God being voted out of town...packing up his things and being down the main street of Dover...I had to haiku about it... [/self]

Oh, and wakko wins...!
posted by tpl1212 at 8:29 AM on November 11, 2005


I adore Pat Robertson, I wish there were more like him.

1) He is entertaining-- come on didn't you laugh when you saw this?

2) He is bent on showing us just how selfish, egotistical, narrow-minded, and flat-out crazy fundemental christians are. Please Jesus, if it be your will, please: kill a supreme court justice...send someone to assassinate Hugo Chavez...let us win the homecoming game.

Sometimes feeding the troll is a good thing-- the more you encourage them, the more revealing their statements become.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 8:31 AM on November 11, 2005


Read more from the Quotable Pat Robertson via Wikiquote. Can someone "take him out"? Feel free to decide for yourself what I mean by "take him out". Because I only mean to a ball game, or for dinner and dancing.
posted by rzklkng at 8:32 AM on November 11, 2005


Yes because we all know that those countries that integrate religion into their daily policy decisions are all experiencing blissful harmony right now.

If it wasn't for religion all CNN could report on is celebrity trials and hurricanes.
posted by canucklehead at 8:35 AM on November 11, 2005


As a resident of Kansas, I feel extra comfortable that any natural disasters in my area will receive prompt attention from God. Thank you, Kansas School Board - you're doing a heckuva job.
posted by daveleck at 8:35 AM on November 11, 2005


Apparently some of the creationism folks haven't read the memo about the newspeak use of Intelligent Design (sic). I'd send him my copy, but since it wasn't worth the paper it was printed on I used it as my presidential ballot in Ohio.
posted by OmieWise at 8:37 AM on November 11, 2005


Kansas: Natural Disaster-free since . . . what's today's date?
posted by mikrophon at 8:38 AM on November 11, 2005


Where's your God now?
posted by Balisong at 8:45 AM on November 11, 2005


Charles Darwin is just as likely to help them in their hour of need as God is.

Any real God would want truth to prevail over comforting lies, which means Charles Darwin is more likely to reward ID types for promoting ID than God would be.
posted by eustacescrubb at 8:49 AM on November 11, 2005


archangel michael - sir, pat robertson's on the phone ... he wants you to do something to dover, pennsylvania

god - i've almost got a triple yachtzee here ... tell him i'll call him back
posted by pyramid termite at 8:54 AM on November 11, 2005


I don't know what Pat Robertson thinks about God's alleged outlook, but I think that He's starting to sound a bit pissy.
posted by leftcoastbob at 9:02 AM on November 11, 2005


Double
posted by caddis at 9:04 AM on November 11, 2005


Triple
posted by caddis at 9:07 AM on November 11, 2005


"If they have future problems in Dover, I recommend they call on Charles Darwin. Maybe he can help them."

Well, that's sort of why they voted them out isn't it Pat?
posted by three blind mice at 9:08 AM on November 11, 2005


caddis: Those are comments, not posts. It's called a double post.

Still, shitty post. This news is all over CNN, etc. Oh well. MetaFilter is tolerant and loving, milkrophon, but you can't keep sticking your finger in our eye over and over.
posted by xmutex at 9:26 AM on November 11, 2005


Double, Treble, whateble. I guess it's just not enough to search the site for "Pat Robertson" dover, pa anymore.
posted by mikrophon at 9:26 AM on November 11, 2005


Looks like the posting guidelines have changed since the last time I checked. Next time I'll ask everyone if they've already seen what I'm about to link to before I post it.
posted by mikrophon at 9:33 AM on November 11, 2005


To paraphrase Bono: my God isn't the Dover school board, Mister!
posted by tommasz at 9:35 AM on November 11, 2005


I hadn't read this - thanks for posting mikophon.
posted by rks404 at 9:40 AM on November 11, 2005


You think that's bad? Bill O'Reilly just told al-Qaeda to
bomb San Francisco.
Someone really needs to throw these two fucksticks down a well and let them fight to the death. Whichever one has more pointless, moronic hatred of human life...wins a new car! There can be only one.
posted by Dormant Gorilla at 9:50 AM on November 11, 2005


Deleware? Delaware is the most bland, ineffectual, and quite lovely places in America. Surely God won't smite a place with no sales tax?
posted by bardic at 9:53 AM on November 11, 2005


*geography and spelling suffering today*
posted by bardic at 9:54 AM on November 11, 2005


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posted by stet at 10:00 AM on November 11, 2005


Why hasn't this guy been arrested yet? He's making threats about assasinating foreign presidents, blowing up the state department with a nuke, and now this.

If it was Michael Moore saying these things you can bet he'd be in Gitmo by now.
posted by nyxxxx at 10:07 AM on November 11, 2005


"Let me teach lies to your kids, or I'll set God on your whole town!"

What a lovely man.
posted by cleardawn at 10:15 AM on November 11, 2005


You think that's bad? Bill O'Reilly just told al-Qaeda to bomb San Francisco.

California Penal Code §11418.5. (a) Any person who knowingly threatens to use a weapon of mass destruction, with the specific intent that the statement, made verbally, in writing, or by means of an electronic communication device, is to be taken as a threat, even if there is no intent of actually carrying it out, which, on its face and under the circumstances in which it is made, is so unequivocal, immediate, and specific as to convey to the person threatened, a gravity of purpose and an immediate prospect of execution of the threat, and thereby causes that person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own safety, or for his or her immediate family's safety, which results in an isolation, quarantine, or decontamination effort, shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail for up to one year or in the state prison for 3, 4, or 6 years, or by a fine of not more than two hundred fifty thousand dollars ($250,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment.

Hey, it's more than the USSS had on Mike Ramirez...
posted by Vetinari at 10:19 AM on November 11, 2005


Also, I must object to the use of the "intelligent" for this thread...
posted by Vetinari at 10:19 AM on November 11, 2005


...TAG... the intelligent TAG...

Now I must doubly object...
posted by Vetinari at 10:20 AM on November 11, 2005


Where is the preacher who preaches acceptance and love

No one's ever made a dime preaching love and togetherness.
posted by any major dude at 10:20 AM on November 11, 2005


I wanna move to Dover, PA! If I could vote god out, I would.
posted by Lockjaw at 10:39 AM on November 11, 2005


Bill O'Reilly just told al-Qaeda to
bomb San Francisco.


"If Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it"

That's a royal we, what he means is he won't be performing phone sex on San Francisco citizens to help them recover from the trauma of surviving a terrorist attack in case there is one.

What a mean, heartless, selfish man. How are San Franciscans going to cope without his words of love?
posted by funambulist at 10:48 AM on November 11, 2005


Does anyone still listen to that douche?
posted by clevershark at 10:48 AM on November 11, 2005


Actually that should be "to either of these douches" (since O'Reilly became involved in this somehow)
posted by clevershark at 10:49 AM on November 11, 2005


"No one's ever made a dime preaching love and togetherness."

Look where it got Jesus.
posted by 2sheets at 10:50 AM on November 11, 2005


I believe my credit card company is based out of Wilmington, so, god, if you are reading this thread, just a heads up, if you're going to be smiting, cast a big net.
posted by 8 Bit at 10:50 AM on November 11, 2005


Does anyone still listen to that douche?

Millions of people. Pat and Bill are mainstream figures, not the fringe. Forget this at your peril.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 10:50 AM on November 11, 2005


O'Riley is such an idiot. Blocking the military from recruiting in schools has nothing to do with anti-military, and everything to do with being anti-anti-gay.

(Okay, well maybe that's more of an excuse then anything. But these wars mean parents don't want their kids around military recruiters.)
posted by delmoi at 11:10 AM on November 11, 2005


Bill O'Reilly's comments kinda make Pat Robertson's comments look almost warm and fuzzy.

Putzes.
posted by leftcoastbob at 11:23 AM on November 11, 2005


"No one's ever made a dime preaching love and togetherness."

Who needs dimes, when you've got free love?
posted by nomisxid at 11:30 AM on November 11, 2005


Those are comments, not posts. It's called a double post.

It's still a triple post. This exact story is being discussed in other threads and it does not need to be here in its own thread.
posted by caddis at 11:32 AM on November 11, 2005


Lemme see if I've got this straight.

Bill O'Reilly's "mainstream" family values say "screw the parents". The military can do what it wants with kids, and their parents have no say. If parents don't want their kids getting blown up in Iraq, then Al Queda should blow them up at home.

But last time Al Queda blew up something at home, O'Reilly used it as justification to invade a country that never attacked us, namely Iraq. Because fighting "them" over there means we don't have to fight "them" here, apparently. So why is he asking them to fight here? Because parents don't want their kids getting blown up in Iraq?

If al Queda should blow you up at home...we should invade who now? France? Canada?

The mind boggles.

PinkStainlessTail, are you sure this blithering jackass isn't on the fringe? Check again, will ya? It just can't be mainstream...this O'Reilly guy is a frigging idiot. Mainstream? Are you sure? If so, I'd like to tell my Canadian friends to duck. Thanks in advance.
posted by edverb at 11:32 AM on November 11, 2005


The temperature of Heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is Isaiah 30:26, "Moreover, the light of the Moon shall be as the light of the Sun and the light of the Sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days." Thus Heaven receives from the Moon as much radiation as we do from the Sun, and in addition 7 x 7 (49) times as much as the Earth does from the Sun, or 50 times in all.

The light we receive from the Moon is one 1/10,000 of the light we receive from the Sun, so we can ignore that.

The radiation falling on Heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation, i.e., Heaven loses 50 times as much heat as the Earth by radiation. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann law for radiation, (H/E)^4 = 50, where E is the absolute temperature of the earth (-300ºK), gives H as 798ºK (525ºC).

The exact temperature of Hell cannot be computed. However, Revelation 21:8 says "But the fearful, and unbelieving ... shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." A lake of molten brimstone [sulphur] means that its temperature must be at or below its boiling point, 444.6ºC.

We have, then, that Heaven, at 525ºC is hotter than Hell at 445ºC.
posted by The Jesse Helms at 11:41 AM on November 11, 2005


Pat who?

O'Reilly should be arrested for treason.
posted by Smedleyman at 11:47 AM on November 11, 2005


I would follow Pat Robertson anywhere...but only out of morbid curiosity.
posted by alumshubby at 12:05 PM on November 11, 2005


In my country there is problem,
And that problem is Pat R....
Throw Pat R. down the well!!

In my country there is another problem,
And that problem is Bill O....
Throw Bill O. down the well!!


I think encouraging Al Quaeda to nuke San Francisco on national television could probably be considered "aiding and abetting the enemy," besides being horrifyingly anti-American. San Franciscans are Americans, because San Francisco is in the United States of America, Bill.

Is O'Reilly based here in LA, at Fox Studios? 'Cuz I'll call LAPD, FBI and Homeland and send 'em over there to frog-march the bastard.

Of course, he didn't actually say it right out, did he.

I really, really have a problem with this. This is an American advocating use of WMD against an American city. I know, free speech and all, but isn't this where the "limits" on free speech that our right-wing Mefite friends advocate come in?
posted by zoogleplex at 12:07 PM on November 11, 2005


“Blocking the military from recruiting in schools has nothing to do with anti-military”
- delmoi

I see no problem with folks not wanting recruiters to have access to their kids. I find it ironic that O'Reilly who never served is beating this drum.

Robertson too makes me laugh. Reminds me of the old joke:
A man of God was told by the police that he was in danger from a flood and had to leave. He refused and said: " God is going to save me. I put my faith in Him."
When the flood waters got to his front door, the National Guard came by to save him. He gave them the same answer:" God is just testing my faith".
When the water got to his roof, a boat came by to save him. His faith was still strong and he replied:" God is going to save me."
The water got higher than the roof and when he was up to his neck a helicopter came by to save him.
Again he refused because God was testing his faith and would rescue him.
He drowned.
When he stood in front of God he said: "Lord, I put my faith in you and you let me drown. Why?"
God answered, "What are you talking about? I sent the cops, the National Guard, a boat and a helicopter.”
posted by Smedleyman at 12:18 PM on November 11, 2005


O'Reilly's comment seems like such a piece of flame bait that I wonder if it is not part of White House's new campain-style pro-war push. Isn't this exactly the kind of crap the right wingers use to get their base excited?
posted by rks404 at 12:33 PM on November 11, 2005


proud to be a Virginian!
posted by tarantula at 12:55 PM on November 11, 2005


Find barrel. Insert fish. Fire at will. /recap
posted by Dick Paris at 1:31 PM on November 11, 2005


funny how fate has a way of dealing with hate mongers like pat robertson and not vice versa.
posted by specialk420 at 2:07 PM on November 11, 2005


I see a flash game here. A map of towns with sins popping up - zap them with something out of an arsenal of natural disasters. Colour commentary by Pat.
posted by CynicalKnight at 2:43 PM on November 11, 2005


CynicalKnight: And the name of the game would have to be SMITE!
posted by leftcoastbob at 2:44 PM on November 11, 2005


I believe Mr Robertson's statement was off-hand and more ill-considered than anything. However, it makes me wonder what his understanding might be.

The spirit of his remark is simply anti-biblical in at least two ways. First, he suggests people do not call on God in times of trouble which is a foolish enough thing to say in itself. Second, he judges that they've committed an unpardonable sin, or a "last straw" act which places them in some sort of imagined unredeemable position.

I wonder if he follows this simple concept: none of it is his call in any case.
posted by scheptech at 2:44 PM on November 11, 2005


Does anyone still listen to that douche?
posted by clevershark at 1:48 PM EST

If you are referring to Bill O'Reilly, his children's book is still on the NY Times best selling list. Might be the childrens best selling list, but I do remember recoiling in disgust at seeing his name recently.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 3:21 PM on November 11, 2005


Well, I personally believe that a volcano will erupt in Dover, PA sometime this evening. Then the rest of you can eat Darwin's hat.
posted by kozad at 7:18 PM on November 11, 2005


Well, I personally believe that a volcano will erupt in Dover, PA sometime this evening.

and out of it will come GODZILLA!!
posted by pyramid termite at 9:08 PM on November 11, 2005


Here, you can ask Pat a question. "If your question is chosen for broadcast on The 700 Club television program, your full name will be withheld so that your privacy will be protected." I'm sure you'll all sleep better knowing that.
posted by astruc at 10:47 AM on November 12, 2005


Since Robertson rejects science, then, by his own reasoning, he won't be requiring any medical attention next time he falls ill. No, sirree, the power of prayer will be all he needs.
posted by cleardawn at 7:18 PM on November 30, 2005


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