Comments on: Sony pwns your computer part II

Sony pwns your computer part II

pjern — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:48:16 -0800

Sony steps in it again. In the midst of the uproar about the Sony rootkit previously mentioned here, J. Alex Haldeman found a second sneaky piece of work in Sony CD's. It's pretty clear now that the only safe way to listen to music from Sony is to steal it. [via]

By: chasing

chasing — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:02:39 -0800

What is this "CD" thing and why would one "buy it?"

By: alteredcarbon

alteredcarbon — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:10:14 -0800

I love the irony that the CD that messed Mark Russinovich up was called 'Get Right with the Man' by the Van Zant bros.

By: clevershark

clevershark — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:21:37 -0800

F*ck Sony.

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:44:29 -0800

clevershark, it's OK to just say "Fuck Sony". In fact, it's quite liberating.

By: clevershark

clevershark — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:50:36 -0800

Generally I prefer to use an asterisk; ultimately I think it draws even more attention to the word.

By: 13twelve

13twelve — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:53:20 -0800

It is comical how all this only affects people who legally bought the cds in the first place.

By: S.C.

S.C. — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:01:28 -0800

FUCK SONY. Oh, man, Crash. You're so right. F*CK SONY. Whoa, clevershark's right, too. This feels fantastic.

By: armoured-ant

armoured-ant — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:09:50 -0800

...all this only affects people who legally bought the cds in the first place. Ha. I hadn't thought of that. That is rather hilarious.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:21:56 -0800

Well, it's common knowledge that the Sony hardware folks are in constant conflict with the Sony entertainment folks, becaues less content protection means better hardware features, while more content protection (purportedly) means better content sales. Maybe Sony Hardware just has a mole in Sony Content feeding them bad advice. A little intracompany espionage.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:24:46 -0800

(Note: above is not serious conspiracy theory, just flight of fancy. I do not wear metallic headgear)

By: nowonmai

nowonmai — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:26:57 -0800

I tend to buy on vinyl when possible and make an illegal download to put on my iPod. In fact, when I do buy a CD it often remains shrink-wrapped as I already had a high-bitrate copy a month or two before the release date. (And when I do buy something, I try to buy it directly from the artist (on tour or if they do their own mail-order) so they get a greater slice of the pie.) I'm clearly the kind of despicable criminal that Sony would love to put a stop to, but this kind of stunt doesn't inconvenience me in the slightest, because on the rare occasions I do rip my own MP3s from CDs I've bought, I use a Mac. So *FUCK* SONY.

By: Falconetti

Falconetti — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:29:56 -0800

Fuck S*ny.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:32:14 -0800

nowonmai : "I'm clearly the kind of despicable criminal that Sony would love to put a stop to, but this kind of stunt doesn't inconvenience me in the slightest, because on the rare occasions I do rip my own MP3s from CDs I've bought, I use a Mac." To be fair, this doesn't stop people like you who use PCs either. It doesn't prevent downloading of mp3s.

By: aburd

aburd — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:32:36 -0800

It is comical how all this only affects people who legally bought the cds in the first place. Isn't that the problem with all DRM? Have any of these programs ever once prevented something from being pirated? The only person ever affected by these programs are the legitimate consumers without the technical knowledge to illegally remove the restrictions. I might understand a corporation's desire to use these programs if they actually prevented piracy. Since they only hurt consumers I can't even feel sympathy for their position. And I want to feel sympathy for the victim of theft.

By: blasdelf

blasdelf — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:32:36 -0800

nowonmai: Don't worry, suncomm -- the developer of the rootkit -- has a Mac OS X version too. There's a HFS partition on the CD with a program that installs kernel extensions, smething that requires you to Authenticate with your password.

By: clevershark

clevershark — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:34:36 -0800

It makes me glad to be running on an all-FreeBSD setup now...

By: funambulist

funambulist — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:36:07 -0800

Well it's all a vicious circle isn't it? if there was no piracy there'd be none of this crap, if there was none of this crap... well no, there would still be piracy. Nevermind.

By: Rothko

Rothko — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:36:13 -0800

These are not CDs. These are Copy Control discs and do NOT conform to the Compact Disc standard. Don't reinforce media corporations misuse of language by calling these discs CDs.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:36:39 -0800

clevershark : "It makes me glad to be running on an all-FreeBSD setup now..." It makes me glad that I always turn off Autorun when I install Windows.

By: eddydamascene

eddydamascene — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:37:45 -0800

It's pretty clear now that the only safe way to listen to music from Sony is to steal it.* *Copyright infringement is not theft. Dowling v. United States. 1985.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:39:19 -0800

rothko "These are not CDs. These are Copy Control discs and do NOT conform to the Compact Disc standard. " Is that the case for these? (Not a disagreement, just a question). I was under the impression that some copy control discs use corrupted data, which breaks redbook compliance, and therefore makes them no longer compact discs, but that some have extra data in addition to the fully redbook compliant data, and are therefore in conformance with the compact disc standard.

By: CrayDrygu

CrayDrygu — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:04:52 -0800

Don't worry, suncomm -- the developer of the rootkit -- has a Mac OS X version too. First 4 Internet developed Sony's rootkit. The Mac OS X extensions are not a rootkit, and are comparatively trivial to remove (as I understand it, you just delete them). You're right, though, that it asks for an administrative account's password to install itself -- which should be a good enough clue that something not right it happening.

By: punishinglemur

punishinglemur — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:09:25 -0800

I cleverly disabled Sony's rootkits and spyware by turning off Windows' "Autorun" feature.

By: JHarris

JHarris — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:13:31 -0800

It is true that all these things that Sony has done are Bad and Awful.... But there are a number of computer games that do things like install special system drivers in an effort to prevent piracy of their game on your system, or demand things like not having certain pieces of software, not for reasons of compatibility (although they may hide behind such reasons as an excuse for refusing to run) but in order to prevent copies from being made or to prevent cheating. Note that the linked-to page discusses an OLD piece of Sony anti-copying "technology," dating back to 2003. Why didn't anyone complain about it then? Well, I'm pretty sure they did, and loudly, but the public either didn't know about it or they dismissed those folks as kooks. It might not be as easy to demonstrate as naming a folder something beginning with $sys$, but just because it doesn't have an easily-observable effect doesn't mean it doesn't have one. Sony's rootit DRM is simply the most recent step taken by a corporate media culture that's paralyzed in fear over what users might do once they get their grubby mitts on their stuff.

By: furtive

furtive — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:29:29 -0800

Yes

By: Dean Keaton

Dean Keaton — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:32:24 -0800

By: Dean Keaton

Dean Keaton — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:35:36 -0800

Also, Norton has agreed to recognize the rootkit as a "virus" but it won't delete it(!) because they made an agreement with Sony. What will happen instead is that you will be taken to a webpage at Sony where you can download another piece of software to remove the rootkit. Thankfully free (read: AVG, etc) antivirus programs have been updated to treat it for what it is, and that is malicious software. By the way if any of you are playing games that have copy protection and want to be able to copy them or not be forced to use weird drivers for your CD-Roms, this is a great place to go: www.gamecopyworld.com

By: spazzm

spazzm — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:41:48 -0800

And I want to feel sympathy for the victim of theft. This has already been said, but: Copyright infringement != theft. This doesn't mean copyright infringement isn't a crime, and it is no statement about the relative seriousness of the two crimes. For example, raping a virgin is not theft even though one might say that the perpetrator "stole her virginity". Of course, copyright infringement != rape, either.

By: Jairus

Jairus — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:57:04 -0800

From Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun (Dowling v. the United States): "It follows that interference with copyright does not easily equate with theft, conversion or fraud. The Copyright Act even employs a separate term of art to define one who misappropriates a copyright: "Anyone who violates any of the exclusive rights of the copyright owner," that is, anyone who trespasses into his exclusive domain by using or authorizing the use of the copyrighted work in one of the five ways set forth in the statute, "is an infringer of the copyright."

By: [insert clever name here]

[insert clever name here] — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:02:51 -0800

Of course, copyright infringement != rape, either. What? Its not? You'd think with all the time and effort gone into preventing it, that its at least as important.

By: Balisong

Balisong — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:04:09 -0800

Next, buy a "CD" and have a Sony representitive personally come by and rape you .

By: Dean Keaton

Dean Keaton — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:09:33 -0800

Then, after you submit the information the site takes you to a page that notifies you that you'll be receiving an email with a "Case ID". A few minutes later you receive that email, which directs you to install the patch and then visit another page if you still really want to uninstall. That page requires you to install an ActiveX control, CodeSupport.Ocx, that's signed by First 4 Internet, enter your case ID and fill in the reason for your request. Then you receive an email within a few minutes that informs you that a customer service representative will email you uninstall instructions within one business day. When you eventually receive the uninstall email from Sony BMG support it comes with a cryptic link in the form http://www.xcp-aurora.com/support/sonybmg/process.aspx?opt=1&id=XYAUfasSFoSdasfDoFPPEWFFEoibnaZPQlSfFgKGSGGIAAAAAAAAAAA (I've modified the link so it doesn't work) to your personalized uninstall page. Interestingly, the email address has a confidentially notice, which implies to me that Sony has something to hide, and it informs you that the uninstaller will expire in one week.

By: Dick Paris

Dick Paris — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:18:52 -0800

It's pretty clear now that the only safe way to listen to music from Sony is to steal it. Or not. Listen, that is. So many fish in the see.

By: clevershark

clevershark — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:23:12 -0800

Balisong writes "Next, buy a 'CD' and have a Sony representitive personally come by and rape you ." They only do it figuratively now.

By: eddydamascene

eddydamascene — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:24:19 -0800

This doesn't mean copyright infringement isn't a crime, and it is no statement about the relative seriousness of the two crimes The statement being that obtaining an illegal copy of a copyrighted material is a far less serious crime than theft.

By: Rothko

Rothko — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:27:15 -0800

The statement being that obtaining an illegal copy of a copyrighted material is a far less serious crime than theft. Indeed.

By: Rothko

Rothko — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:28:44 -0800

It's pretty clear now that the only safe way to listen to music from Sony is to steal it. Are Sony's "artists" worth stealing revenue from? Honestly?

By: caddis

caddis — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:31:09 -0800

I think you got your spacing wrong; it should be: Copyright infringement! = theft. However, here the moral compass swings way away from Sony. Go ahead and steal their so called music without guilt. I never put music CDs into my computer so I could care less personally about their root-kits and other vile nonsense. I hope, however, that the lawsuits cost them a lot of money, and worse, a lot of bad press. Right now pretty much only the geeks (you know the types who know what != means) know about Sony's bad behavior. I want the world to know, for their music sales to dry up and for their music division management to all get fired. This sort of crap should be criminal. Am I pissed, oh yeah. Imagine if I actually played music CDs in computers rather than just in dedicated CD players.

By: papakwanz

papakwanz — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:34:27 -0800

**** ****!

By: fleetmouse

fleetmouse — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:37:50 -0800

All my music comes from small labels that don't use copy protection, or from Emusic in the form of non-DRM VBR mp3 downloads, or in the form of free sharity exotica downloads of obscure out of print weirdness. So Sony can go ahead and keep destroying their own business model, or fucking their own eyesockets with sharpened stakes, or however you want to characterize these actions... doesn't affect me at all.

By: Hildegarde

Hildegarde — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:44:55 -0800

I hope someone takes them to court. If they want to behave like crackers, they should get thrown in jail. Class action law suit?

By: smackfu

smackfu — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:54:03 -0800

I heard that the new buzzed-about Neil Diamond CD has this software installed. No cite, but beware.

By: Pretty_Generic

Pretty_Generic — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:09:54 -0800

The company is called Sony BMG. Sony own 50%. The other half is owned by Bertelsmann, who appear to be successfully avoiding any bad press over this because everyone knows who Sony is. Fuck Sony and Bertelsmann. That's who to fuck.

By: Samizdata

Samizdata — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:16:16 -0800

I haven't tested it, but it's been said AnyDVD will work a treat. I just love it's ability to skip past commercials and straight to the root menu, as well as it's removal of prohibited ops.

By: djdrue

djdrue — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:47:11 -0800

A few Items I would like to pitch in here: I believe that Symantec now identifies the vulnerablity created by the rootkit's installation, and now can stop viruses from exploiting it. First off, There are actually two forms of DRM being used by Sony: One is by First 4 Internet, which is the one Mark R. from Sysinternals detailed. The other is an earlier form of DRM from SunComm that acutally, phones home (and so is considered Spyware). Sony is being sued by the state of California for violation of that state's spyware laws. What I find to be the most interesting is that by using this form of DRM, they are actually hurting their consumer base. What happens when this trickles down to the phrase "Is that CD from sony? you know they install Spyware on your machine." It's like the more they fight it, the worse they make it for themselves and for the entertainment industry as a whole. After paying 1000% markup to the music industry for roughly 20 years, I'm quietly enjoying watching the music industry corps twist in the wind. One final note: you can't copy protect vinyl. Buy vinyl, love vinyl, mmm, vinyl. Oh, wait did I just say that out loud?

By: caddis

caddis — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:57:36 -0800

Vinyl rules

By: dobbs

dobbs — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:17:24 -0800

Just saw this at PFM. Also, vinyl lovers, something of note: Merge Records recently announced that vinyl copies of some of their artists records will have a piece of paper inside with a one-time-use code to download high quality digital versions of the album via their web site.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:17:26 -0800

Also, Norton has agreed to recognize the rootkit as a "virus" but it won't delete it(!) because they made an agreement with Sony. The company is called Sony BMG. Sony own 50%. The other half is owned by Bertelsmann, who appear to be successfully avoiding any bad press over this because everyone knows who Sony is. Fuck Sony, and Bertelsmann, and Symantec, too. Hey, this is fun!

By: mullingitover

mullingitover — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:34:00 -0800

Why the fuck doesn't Norton disable autorun by default?

By: mullingitover

mullingitover — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:34:53 -0800

On preview: one more vote for "F*ck Sony".

By: Devils Rancher

Devils Rancher — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:56:11 -0800

It's a good thing I never, ever pay for music and never plan to again. I get stuff months before it comes out at super high bitrates, burn it to CD and give copies to all my friends. Haha! Fuck you, Sony! posted by Dean Keaton Hey, Dean, I'm a "professional" musician. Do you know what I do for a living? That's right, I print t-shirts. I'm going to figure your post was sarcastic hyperbole, which is well and good, but instead of ripping off The Man, why don't you try supporting The Little Guy? Buy independent music, directly from the artist, or from your local, independent retailer. Oh, and yes, fuck sony.

By: hototogisu

hototogisu — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:18:48 -0800

So, what kind of profit margins are you getting off of merch? T-shirts vs. CDs, for example...if I've got 15 bucks in my pocket at your concert, would you rather I bought your CD or shirt? Or are they comparable?

By: Rothko

Rothko — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:32:29 -0800

T-shirt.

By: hattifattener

hattifattener — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:36:29 -0800

mullingitover, for the same reason Microsoft implemented autorun in the first place, which is that people care more about a little bit of convenience than about security. Viruses have been propagating by autorun-like mechanisms since at least the Apple ][; there's zero chance that the people implementing this feature in more recent operating systems didn't know what they were letting themselves in for. They just don't care very much.

By: Mitheral

Mitheral — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:42:36 -0800

mullingitover writes "Why the fuck doesn't Norton disable autorun by default?" Beleive it or not most users think its a feature. I prepped a laptop image once with autoplay disabled and 14/17 users pissed and moaned that their music didn't just play anymore. It's the same people who think having car doors autolock is a good thing.

By: konolia

konolia — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:02:59 -0800

And this, ladies and gents, is why when it comes to music, I make my OWN. The whole stinking music industry stinks, stinks, stinks. A skunk is a rose by comparison.

By: hototogisu

hototogisu — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:03:56 -0800

Rothko: That's what I've always thought, anyway.

By: Samizdata

Samizdata — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:33:57 -0800

konolia: You are, of course, assuming some of us have an option. If Koko the gorilla was blind and had seizures, her product would sound better than my last composition. Trust me on this one.

By: edgeways

edgeways — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:43:40 -0800

not sure if this list was in the other post, but i ran across this somewhere. this is the root-kit aware list, dunno whatall has this new piece of crap. Trey Anastasio, Shine (Columbia) Celine Dion, On ne Change Pas (Epic) Neil Diamond, 12 Songs (Columbia) Our Lady Peace, Healthy in Paranoid Times (Columbia) Chris Botti, To Love Again (Columbia) Van Zant, Get Right with the Man (Columbia) Switchfoot, Nothing is Sound (Columbia) The Coral, The Invisible Invasion (Columbia) Acceptance, Phantoms (Columbia) Susie Suh, Susie Suh (Epic) Amerie, Touch (Columbia) Life of Agony, Broken Valley (Epic) Horace Silver Quintet, Silver's Blue (Epic Legacy) Gerry Mulligan, Jeru (Columbia Legacy) Dexter Gordon, Manhattan Symphonie (Columbia Legacy) The Bad Plus, Suspicious Activity (Columbia) The Dead 60s, The Dead 60s (Epic) Dion, The Essential Dion (Columbia Legacy) Natasha Bedingfield, Unwritten (Epic) Ricky Martin, Life (Columbia)

By: edgeways

edgeways — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:45:03 -0800

oh, yes. all togeather now. Fuck Sony (and BMG as well, I assume this is the same BMG that runs those 12 CDs for a cent + shipping)

By: herting

herting — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:07:49 -0800

I used to buy CDs, tonnes of them. I still have a collection of about 600 CDs that I purchased legally. But why would I keep buying them after I learn that the people making the money from my purchase is going to mess up my computer? The only time I buy CDs now is when there is a independant or local act that I feel like supporting, that's the only time it seems like I'm not funding the R&D dept. at Evil Corp.

By: fleetmouse

fleetmouse — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:11:20 -0800

And this, ladies and gents, is why when it comes to music, I make my OWN. In the future only licensed and bonded musicians will be able to create and distribute digital music.

By: eustacescrubb

eustacescrubb — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:38:37 -0800

can't believe I'm saying this, but: I agree with konolia. and Samizdata, who cares if the music you make isn't professional quality? Making my own music is much more fun than listening to music other people make, even though I A) Have 90 GB of Other People's Music in my iTunes library and B) am not a very good musician.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:54:10 -0800

For those not in the up-and-up, fleetmouse isn't being snarky. There has been discussion with the whole upcoming Palladium and "trusted computing" trend to require a license to distribute music, and that license would have to be purchased. So, in a worst case scenario, you would have to pay money to distribute music that you yourself made, those monies probably going to Sony/BMG/etc. And don't smirk too much if you're a Mac user: the DRM is supported by the processor, and with the shift of Macs to Intel, this may apply to Mac users as well. Of course, there will probably be ways around it (there always are), but it won't be like nowadays, when you save your compositions as mp3s and slap them up on your website. Again, this is worst case scenario, but not tin-foil-hat stuff; its actually been discussed as a possibility by some of the major players.

By: funambulist

funambulist — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 06:03:36 -0800

Yeah I suppose listening to myself singing in the shower is a fantastic replacement for drums, bass, guitars, keyboards, and vocals! And even if I made music... are you guys seriously saying musicians should listen only to their own stuff? how depressing is that?

By: fleetmouse

fleetmouse — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 06:09:35 -0800

bugbread, I'm surprised reality has caught up to my baseless canard. I've been saying that since the mid 90s when I read this short story by Neal Stephenson. It seems utterly inevitable to me that governments and corporations will conspire together to try to jam up the free flow of information.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 06:21:12 -0800

Fleetmouse: From what I've gathered, the government isn't really involved in the whole trusted computing thing (I may be wrong). It seems more just collusion between hardware manufacturers and content manufacturers. I'm sure the government will put their finger in the pie, but they're not, as far as I'm aware, one of the initiators in this case. On reread, I can see what I wrote that could be interpreted that way: "require a license". What I meant is that a computer with a "trusted computing" OS would refuse to play unsigned mp3s, meaning that if you wanted someone to be able to listen to your music, you would have to sign it as yours, and those digital signatures would have to be purchased from signatories recognized by the OS. So you couldn't just put your own digital sig on it, because when someone else tried to play it, their OS would say "Who the hell is the signatory 'bugbread'?", and refuse to play it. If it was a digital sig from Sony, however, their OS would say "Ok, I know Sony, that's cool, I'll play the file." So it wouldn't be illegal to publish music without a license, and it wouldn't take any more effort than now, but it would mean that only people who had cracked their own computers, or people running non-"trusted computing" OSes like Linux, could play your music. And to allow everyone to play your music, you'd have to pay for a digital signature. Note: the above is pretty much from memory. There may be inaccuracies, but overall that's the gist of it.

By: AspectRatio

AspectRatio — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 06:52:22 -0800

MetaFilter: F*ck Sony hmmmm... MetaFilter: Fuck Sony or... MetaFilter: Fuck Sony! Fuck it right in the ear! Winnah!

By: fleetmouse

fleetmouse — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:01:41 -0800

bugbread, that would require the os to also not allow unsigned player applications like foobar2000 to access wav out or directx audio streaming. No more FOSS windows software, basically. can-o-worms.

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:09:43 -0800

Fleetmouse: That's why I say that it would definitely be gotten around, and that it would just be much harder than currently (and possibly illegal, depending on what courts thought of EULAs, whether it counts as a DRM circumvention technique, what country you're in, etc.) Plus, as I say, getting audio out wouldn't be a problem. The problem would be getting audio out in such a way that other PC users could replay it. Of course, you could always burn it as a CD, and mail the CD to someone, or stuff along those lines. And regarding playing unsigned software, that's another key element of trusted computing, and yet another strike against it: as you say, no more FOSS. On the upside: I'm a Windows user, not an open source zealot by any means, but if they get draconian enough, this could be the thing to make folks go to open source operating systems. Maybe. Again, this is all in the very basic, theoretical stages, as far as I am aware. The idea is having DRM built in from the CPU itself, through the OS architecture, requiring digital signatures for all software and some types of content (I doubt a digital signature would be required for text files, for example). The nitty gritty (what about pure wave files? What about new audio file types? What about add-ons to existing signed software? etc.) is still far too theoretical to really get at.

By: graventy

graventy — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:13:32 -0800

Ricky Martin, Life (Columbia) Huh. Guess I'll just have to keep that one in the car then.

By: seanyboy

seanyboy — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 03:47:46 -0800

It gets better. It turns out that the rootkit contains pieces of code that are identical to LAME, an open source mp3-encoder, and thereby breach the (LGPL) license.