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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 4702</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2000 13:43:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 4702</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.riffage.com/"&gt;Another one bites the dust..&lt;/a&gt;  - Riffage is dead. Long live Riffage. Just as well. I never liked their webdesign anyway, but that&apos;s a matter of personal taste. I hate to see another soldier for &lt;I&gt;&quot;uncharted territories&quot;&lt;/I&gt; fall prey to reality. 
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2000 22:00:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ZachsMind</dc:creator>		<category>riffage</category>		<category>riffage.com</category>		<category>dotcoms</category>
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		<title>By: Steven Den Beste</title>
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		<description>On the page, it says that one of the reasons they&apos;re going under is because &quot;we couldn&apos;t find a buyer&quot;.

In truth, many of the dot-com startups never expected to actually become viable independent businesses, in the sense of actually really honestly making a profit all on their own. The goal was to build to a certain point while losing money, and then try to find someone to sell out to. And for a while you could do that, and some did.

Only problem is: if the company&apos;s not making a profit and has no expectation of ever making a profit, why would anyone want to buy it? And so, many of the dot-com entrepreneurs have found that they had built and are trying to sell an asset no-one wants. Which is why so many are visiting bankrupcy court -- or are simply liquidating, as in this case.

The &quot;new economy&quot; hasn&apos;t changed any of the rules of the &quot;old economy&quot;; it&apos;s just added some new ones. But the old rules still apply: &quot;income must exceed expenditures in the long run&quot; is just as true for a dot-com as it is for any other business. Ultimately you have to have a viable business plan for becoming profitable. Companies which don&apos;t have any such plan will no longer be able to find a sugar-daddy to sell out to.

The bubble has burst, and dot-coms will from now on be judged in the same ways that brick-and-mortar businesses are: on the basis of viability and expectation of profit.

And this is good. I do not mourn the investments of fools. But the shakeout isn&apos;t over yet, and many familiar names will die before it ends.</description>
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