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	<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:20:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>NYC Rage</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://3quarksdaily.blogs.com/3quarksdaily/2005/08/lives_of_the_ca.html"&gt;New York City rage.&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:17:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tlogmer</dc:creator>		<category>nyc</category>		<category>culture</category>		<category>society</category>
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		<title>By: zekinskia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121598</link>	
		<description>People scream in the NY subway?  Wierd...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:20:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zekinskia</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121607</link>	
		<description>Hey, what the fuck are you lookin&apos; at?!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:27:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jonmc</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: The Jesse Helms</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121608</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt; New York, in this city that is the finest achievement of modern American urban life&lt;/em&gt;

It&apos;s like 1919 all over again.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:27:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Jesse Helms</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Gator</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121613</link>	
		<description>In other words, New York:  Pretty crazy place, huh?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:30:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gator</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: allkindsoftime</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121618</link>	
		<description>I think a subway ride with*out* someone screaming (or at least stinking) would be wierd...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:31:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>allkindsoftime</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Tlogmer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121620</link>	
		<description>Hey, I&apos;m just a simple midwestern kid unaccustomed to these jaded urbanites.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:31:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Godbert</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121637</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m more surprised at the claim that you could hear the screams over the sounds of the subway cars. Those things are &lt;i&gt;loud&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:47:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: monju_bosatsu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121639</link>	
		<description>Anger is the orangutan&apos;s effulgent orange ass.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:50:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bering</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121664</link>	
		<description>Metafilter: the orangutan&apos;s effulgent orange ass.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:11:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cusack</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121685</link>	
		<description>This New York City, it rages?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:25:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cusack</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: QuietDesperation</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121692</link>	
		<description>I think someone spelling &quot;weird&quot; correctly would be weird.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:29:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: raysmj</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121705</link>	
		<description>If it&apos;s the end product of 7,000 years of urban technology, where are the public restrooms cleaned hourly by robots?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:38:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121799</link>	
		<description>they clean public restrooms on your planet?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:30:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jonmc</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: raysmj</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121820</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.americanrestroom.org/apt/&quot;&gt;Self-cleaning public restrooms.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:44:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: UKnowForKids</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121946</link>	
		<description>Maybe they&apos;re pissed about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/46301&quot;&gt;disruption to service on the L train&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:49:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dizzy Bint</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1121977</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Jed,

Your prose is a pleasure to read. You piece is incredibly funny (in its dark way) as well, and true, too. 
&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah. ROTF here, too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 11:12:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1122094</link>	
		<description>1988, the 2 train up Broadway. Express between 72th and 96th. Late rush, the cars are crowded. A raggedy clown resembling Grandmaster Flash, with oversized Elton John sunglasses and a technicolor dreamcoat, comes through from the next car as we depart.

He is carrying a battered clarinet. We don&apos;t pay attention to this, or his blather about living on the streets, yelled over train noise. So far, this is normal.

Then he bleats the clarinet. It is a tone not dulcet or demure, but a wail of transferred pain, from him to us. The entire car looks his way, shocked. All he asks is a little money, a few dollars for dinner, and he&apos;ll go to the next car. He bleats again. Secretaries cover their ears; college students look up from their books. Some woman at his end argues with him in a thick Bronx jive. He ignores her and makes another plea for cash, preferably bills. One or two people hand him coins and urge him on.

That ain&apos;t nearly enough to get a cup of coffee no more, he announces. And lifts the clarinet again. As it shrieks in broadcast agony, there is movement. A very large man in a tee and crew cut moves toward Flash and grabs the clarinet out of his hands. There is a pause; none of us knows where this is going.

Flash demands his property back. The large man holds it up, out of his reach. The pushback from the passengers grows to a crescendo of ethnic slurs and catcalls and threats. The bum reaches again for the clarinet, and the large man swings it violently against a stanchion, which makes a sound surprisingly compatible with the train&apos;s own squealed protestations of steel-wheeled travel. He drops it to the floor, and stomps on the horn of the clarinet, crushing it into a thin grotesque Mick Jagger sneer. He returns to his position by the side doorway. He has not spoken a single word.

Flash grabs at the abused instrument, and moves down past me to the door leading to the next car.

There is applause, but no curtain. We&apos;re all nearly home.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:26:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1122153</link>	
		<description>Was that the &quot;Martian music&quot; guy?  Man, I hated him.  I&apos;d have paid money to see his instrument stomped.

/NYC subway rage</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:53:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrgrimm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1122173</link>	
		<description>I thought it was OK, if a bit self-important.

I disagree here though:

&lt;i&gt;We were physically exhausted from the angry contest of our day, and we had no energy left to avail ourselves of the cool relief of riot&lt;/i&gt;

I just think that New Yorkers are too self-obsessed. If it doesn&apos;t happen there, it doesn&apos;t happen.

&lt;i&gt;After all, New York is nothing if not a whore--why not capitalize on its wealth?&lt;/i&gt;

That graph was great. Again, I don&apos;t think that rage is unique to NYC, however.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:07:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1122214</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Again, I don&apos;t think that rage is unique to NYC, however.&lt;/em&gt;

Well, we do it best. Our new city motto is: Get outta my fuckin&apos; way!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:27:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1122558</link>	
		<description>languagehat: googling &quot;martian music subway&quot; turned up four almost identical stories -- though mine was the only one with near violence. Looks like he&apos;s been honing his schtick for a very long time. I don&apos;t remember if he called it &quot;martian music&quot;, nor martian headgear, when I saw him.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:25:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Decani</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1122650</link>	
		<description>Well, I hated that guy&apos;s writing. &lt;em&gt;Hated&lt;/em&gt; it. Pompous, overblown, prissy... yuk. His premise is bullshit, too. New York isn&apos;t a particularly angry city; certainly not for one of its size and density. It&apos;s a hell of a lot friendlier than London, for example. New York is one of the friendliest big cities I know, and I don&apos;t like this guy playing up the myth just to make himself feel a bit special. Which is what this article reads like to me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:08:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rawfishy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1122963</link>	
		<description>Just spent 2 weeks in NYC right next to Times square, down in Chelsea and then up in Harlem.

 Saw a lot of self righteous panhandling on the subway, lots of  great art, and a whole slab load of the packaged american dream. 

But anger?? 

Frustration, and some impatience yes, anger..no different to any other major city ive been to or lived in.

I was actually surprised when people appologized to each other when they knocked each other on the street considering NY&apos;s rep. In Tokyo, its quite common to see people knock into someone - simply look at them with blank faces or ignore the other person completely and keep going.

The linked prose seems sensationalist to the nth degree.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:34:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sticherbeast</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1123016</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/47064#1122650&quot;&gt;Preach it, Decani.&lt;/a&gt;

Ugh. It reads like an eighth grader found an old thesaurus.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:34:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tiger yang</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1123302</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Ugh. It reads like an eighth grader found an old thesaurus.&lt;/em&gt;

I think that&apos;s a little harsh. The essay &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; well-written, and, as a city resident who works the 9-to-5 in midtown, I think it&apos;s a pretty accurate description too, although the &quot;anger&quot; portion is a bit exaggerated. But hey, I think the exaggeration adds to overall sentiment of the essay and serves it well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:52:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Decani</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/47064/NYC-Rage#1124511</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I think that&apos;s a little harsh. The essay is well-written&lt;/em&gt;

Sure it&apos;s well-written. If your definition of &quot;well-written&quot; is &quot;didn&apos;t make any grammatical mistakes and used a few nice words&quot;.

Mine isn&apos;t.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:03:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Decani</dc:creator>
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