Comments on: Firefox 1.5 released

Firefox 1.5 released

XiBe — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:51:39 -0800

The wait is over : Firefox 1.5 is out, to be found on the brand spanking new mozilla.com.

By: Steve_at_Linnwood

Steve_at_Linnwood — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:55:56 -0800

Wow

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:57:00 -0800

I think I pooped.

By: panoptican

panoptican — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:08:16 -0800

Meh.

By: trbrts

trbrts — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:08:28 -0800

Someone already clued me into this extension. It allows you to see all your tabbed windows at once.

By: interrobang

interrobang — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:08:41 -0800

Oh, for the love of god.

By: zpousman

zpousman — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:09:02 -0800

This is like christmas. And hannukah, too. Woooo. Yay. Unwrapping a stuffit archive -- oh me oh my the excitement is building by the minute. Woohoo. Wow. *sulks off in stocking feet, twirling index finger slowly skyward*

By: zsazsa

zsazsa — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:09:44 -0800

So... how about an update to MetaFilthy so it works with 1.5? I've become quite reliant on it.

By: brundlefly

brundlefly — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:10:39 -0800

Wow. For the first time, my Abe Vigoda status extension is saying something other than "unknown." This is better than Christmas!

By: stirfry

stirfry — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:13:16 -0800

eeeew! who pooped?

By: fenriq

fenriq — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:14:06 -0800

Hell, if the new version chops out the sneaky pop-unders (yeah, I'm looking at you Medialink or whatever the hell your name is) then I'm all for it. Everyone should use FireFox even though my totally non-valid sample of blog surfers shows that some 70-odd percent still use some IE flavor. But the FireFox numbers are always climbing so there's hope.

By: majick

majick — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:16:34 -0800

Hey, neat, this mozilla.com thing sends .dmg files as text/plain! Way to configure that mime.types, guys! Clearly, you are the web software distribution experts!

By: panoptican

panoptican — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:16:59 -0800

The wait is over, Lynx 2.8.5 is available. It gave me instant diarrhea.

By: sian

sian — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:17:15 -0800

Anyone else having problems running Firefox after installing the new version? I'll open it and it will briefly show in the Task Manager before disappearing. I installed twice with fresh download files.

By: 40 Watt

40 Watt — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:18:36 -0800

*explodes in shower of feces*

By: keswick

keswick — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800

Finally, tab reordering is back.

By: Robot Johnny

Robot Johnny — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:20:29 -0800

Hey, neat, this mozilla.com thing sends .dmg files as text/plain! Ha... doesn't download with Safari. They need a disclaimer that reads: To download Mozilla Firefox you need to have Mozilla Firefox installed.

By: jscalzi

jscalzi — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:23:05 -0800

Anyone else getting a big blank bar at the bottom of the Mac 1.5?

By: mph

mph — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:24:31 -0800

I'm waiting until 1.6 to even consider switching from Safari so I can enjoy Cocoa/Emacs/readline keybindings instead of suffering the heartbreak of what I'm assuming is either Windows-centric or Linux-GUIs-trying-to-be-like-Windows-centric UI programming. Bugzilla seems to be a regular battleground for people arguing that simple keybinding consistency with the host operating system will somehow diminish Firefox's celebration of specialness. Meh. And also "Poop!"

By: nightchrome

nightchrome — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:24:55 -0800

Oh come on, since when did incremental releases of software become "best of the web"? Are you people even trying anymore?

By: Smart Dalek

Smart Dalek — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:25:38 -0800

Someone already clued me into this extension. It allows you to see all your tabbed windows at once. I think ytmnd.com just pooped.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:26:12 -0800

Sweet. I've been running 1.5 since alpha 1 and it's been fairly buggy all the way up to the RC3 version I currently have. I hope they ironed everything out.

By: jaronson

jaronson — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:28:19 -0800

Thanks for reminding me... Opera 8.51 came out on November 22. That makes it almost 4 times better than Firefox 1.5. I keed the Firefox users.

By: holloway

holloway — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:30:00 -0800

RC3 is the released version.

By: freebird

freebird — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:30:02 -0800

Runs fine for me on OSX, YMMV but it already seems a lot happier than the 1.0x my powerbook came with. I don't think it's a good Post though, sorry.

By: VulcanMike

VulcanMike — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:30:29 -0800

From Slashdot: where to get Firefox - by mykmelez (Score: 5, Informative) Thread Please do *NOT* download it from ftp.mozilla.org. Please instead use our redirector, which has a lot more bandwidth: Windows: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5&o s=win&lang=en-US Mac OS X: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5&o s=osx&lang=en-US Linux: http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5&o s=linux&lang=en-US Or, if you need a different language, get it from releases.mozilla.org, which doesn't have as much bandwidth as the redirector but still has *much* more than ftp.mozilla.org: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefo x/releases/1.5/

By: meehawl

meehawl — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:31:11 -0800

I use Mozilla - prefer the whole "suite" thing. I suppose it's a sign of something that now I am getting to websites that confidently tell me that I am using an "unsupported" browser, but proudly tell me that Firefox is supported. Whatever.

By: Gary

Gary — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:39:51 -0800

Drag and drop reordering for browser tabs. Huzzah! (now they just need to update SessionSaver so it works with 1.5)

By: holloway

holloway — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:40:05 -0800

nightchrome: It's not so incremental... The Firefox 1.0.x series hasn't had their rendering engine changed for two years, and this release is when they've finally caught up to using what's in Mozilla 1.6+. Two years dude! Also the Mozilla Suite is no longer being developed and now the development is focused on Firefox / Thunderbird / Sunbird / Nvu, which is a pity, because I never did get around to submitting my Mozilla splash screens. I've got some testing to do in my forum software... it does XUL widgets for some things and I guess this might break things.

By: stbalbach

stbalbach — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:40:36 -0800

"poop" has reached critical mass. I must revert it twice a day on Wikipedia (noticed it about a month ago). Now it's pooping up on MeFi.

By: Rothko

Rothko — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:43:52 -0800

What does Google's website look like with Firefox?

By: jefbla

jefbla — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:45:39 -0800

I shat my pants too! Oh wait, Firefox has a new browser? Unnnghhh. I just came!

By: tzelig

tzelig — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:46:51 -0800

Now waiting for greasemonkey and others to update - RIP is awesome!

By: Saucy Intruder

Saucy Intruder — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:49:42 -0800

Aggh! PDF links launch in the browser window. How do I get it to launch in Acrobat? This notwithstanding unchecking "Display PDFs in Browser" in the Acrobat preferences.

By: mrgrimm

mrgrimm — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:52:14 -0800

I don't see any reason to update. Is it just me?

By: holloway

holloway — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:55:35 -0800

Ok, I take what I said back about image macros. Reading people's boredom through such played out onomatopoeia as Unnnnngh makes me thirst for Quonsar's elephant pissing gif. Thirsty.

By: spyke23

spyke23 — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:57:38 -0800

i'm getting some weirdness with autocomplete addressing using gmail on a mac os x10.4///

By: hincandenza

hincandenza — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:04:49 -0800

Drats, greasemonkey and downloadthemall aren't up to date yet- two of my favorite extensions! :( However, the interface seems zippier, more responsive, and I LOVE this viamatic foXpose extension! And tab re-ordering... sweet jeebus!

By: ZenMasterThis

ZenMasterThis — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:15:24 -0800

*explodes in shower of feces* Thanks, 40 Watt; I haven't laughed so hard in years!

By: docgonzo

docgonzo — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:17:01 -0800

Love the tab reordering, but: Still no way to skip between tabs with the keyboard, a la Safari's shift-apple-cursor?

By: holloway

holloway — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:19:34 -0800

docgonzo: CTRL + pageup / pagedown

By: nightchrome

nightchrome — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:26:31 -0800

holloway, even so this is metafilter not freshmeat. What place do software update news releases have here? Honestly...

By: sjvilla79

sjvilla79 — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:31:14 -0800

Look, Dad, it's so big, bright, and shiny. Can I have one? Please? I want one now! Buy it for me! Now! Now! Now! Ahem. Been using ~~Firebird~~ Firefox nightly builds for as long as I can remember. Just because the release is official it doesn't mean the features have dramatically changed or anything. And you know it's not that hard to be on the bleeding edge either. Wow.

By: sjvilla79

sjvilla79 — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:32:28 -0800

And this shouldn't be a FPP IMO.

By: signal

signal — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:35:01 -0800

People, what are you whining about? Every dead or missing blond chick, every crappy theory about crappy TV-shows gets airplay, and you would omit something that actually has some effect on people's lives?

By: A189Nut

A189Nut — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:36:03 -0800

Bollocks to this - 1.05 won't run my extensions and Greasemonkey, plus it won't let me run the previous version, nor roll back with system restore, nor does re-installing 1.07 give me back my extensions. A warning to you all.

By: scheptech

scheptech — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:37:45 -0800

Hmm, makes computer go faster...

By: amberglow

amberglow — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:40:02 -0800

I'll open it and it will briefly show in the Task Manager before disappearing. I installed twice with fresh download files. sian, if you're on Mac, you have to copy it over to your applications folder and not start it from the disk image (that's what it sounds like is happening).

By: amberglow

amberglow — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:45:39 -0800

Oh, i just went thru the new prefs to see if what i wanted (and had before) was still set, and the automatic download of updates was set--check yours, everyone.

By: sian

sian — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:52:58 -0800

amberglow: XP here :)

By: sjvilla79

sjvilla79 — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:53:32 -0800

Here's something which goes with what I said earlier.

If you're using Firefox 1.5 Release Candidate 3, congratulations: you have Firefox 1.5. The English (US) version of Firefox 1.5 is just Firefox 1.5 Release Candidate 3 with a renamed installer. Thanks for helping to test the release candidate. You can verify that you have Firefox 1.5 Release Candidate 3 (rather than an older release candidate) by selecting "About Mozilla Firefox" from the "Help" menu; you should see something ending with "Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5".

Via Jesse Ruderman.

By: gyc

gyc — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:55:17 -0800

So it's still not as good as Opera?

By: nkyad

nkyad — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:01:17 -0800

Saucy Intruder writes "Aggh! PDF links launch in the browser window. How do I get it to launch in Acrobat? This notwithstanding unchecking 'Display PDFs in Browser' in the Acrobat preferences." Either Tools/Dowloads/View and Edit Actions or get the PDF Download Extension, that let's you choose what to do each time you click on a PDF link. jaronson writes "Opera 8.51 came out on November 22. That makes it almost 4 times better than Firefox 1.5.
"I keed the Firefox users." Wouldn't it be "almost 6 times better" or has Opera developed a new kind Math too?

By: bingo

bingo — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:05:46 -0800

Is it my imagination, or did the web developer extension, which was already badass, just become badderass?

By: brundlefly

brundlefly — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:15:51 -0800

Anything in particular, bingo?

By: bingo

bingo — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:20:32 -0800

brundlefly: The three buttons that appear just under the search box? I don't remember those being there. At least not all three of them. And some of the other options seem different, like the types of validation and outlining. But maybe I just didn't notice them before.

By: signal

signal — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:21:13 -0800

gyc writes 'So it's still not as good as Opera?' Right, Opera's metafilthy extension is way better than Firefox's. Same goes for its Adblock, and its del.icio.us extensions blow firefox's out the window.

By: mr.marx

mr.marx — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:25:36 -0800

What does Google's website look like with Firefox? Two large Apples, one big Thing, and it says: "Just Google it".

By: nakedcodemonkey

nakedcodemonkey — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:36:33 -0800

now they just need to update SessionSaver so it works with 1.5 It's called SessionSaver .2, and it's already been out for a while. Just as a manual download instead of auto-Mozilla Update. (Though now it's there now.)

By: Sfving

Sfving — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:41:24 -0800

I tried downloading this in Safari, and yeah, it came out all gobbledegooked. I had already deleted my old Firefox so I had to navigate Mozilla's FTP server to download. This is broken!

By: interrobang

interrobang — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:58:35 -0800

I now have to click twice in the URL bar to select the whole thing. Boo.

By: zsazsa

zsazsa — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:00:35 -0800

interrobang, that's weird; clicking once selects it here on my Windows computer. I usually hit Ctrl/Command-L these days, though.

By: interrobang

interrobang — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:01:19 -0800

Maybe it's a Mac thing, zsazsa. Hey, that command-L thing works! Thanks!

By: Civil_Disobedient

Civil_Disobedient — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:08:13 -0800

Have they fucking fixed the shitty Auto-Update feature in this release so I don't have to download and reinstall the entire fucking piece of goddamned software? Because I don't see a motherfucking green "Updates are available" arrow in my fatherfucking browser. //angry

By: brundlefly

brundlefly — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:12:41 -0800

interrobang: and command-k selects the search bar....

By: youarejustalittleant

youarejustalittleant — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:12:54 -0800

Oh no -- I just downloaded & installed the new thing and it tells me only now that the old Mozilla calendar I was using is "incompatible." Quick, someone tell me how I can access all the data I had for my whole freaking life in that calendar!!!

By: quonsar

quonsar — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:10:47 -0800

wow. since i switched to firefox 1.0.7 on linux the one thing that has consistently annoyed me has been having to manually highlight the location. two clicks does the trick, as well as control-L! thanks interrobang and zsazsa!

By: caution live frogs

caution live frogs — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:23:58 -0800

Nightly Tester Tools extension will fix your incompatibility pains. Use it to force compatibility with old extensions, use it to install "non-compatible" extensions. I've been using it since 1.5 Beta 1, have Metafilthy for example running happily in my current install. C_D: Updates are now incremental. Hooray - no more total reinstall, it finds and replaces just the bits that need it, automatically. 1.5 should be the last update you'll need to do a full install with.

By: caution live frogs

caution live frogs — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:24:54 -0800

Oops. Link for the extension I mentioned: Nightly Tester Tools

By: freebird

freebird — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:45:04 -0800

Okok, I still don't think it's postworthy BUT in classic metafilter style, the comments have made it useful: Option-L and Ctl-PgUp/PgDn are the shortcuts I've been wanting for a long long time. So thanks, whoever pointed those out! Now I've got to finally finish setting up Firefox on this new machine - I hate having a seperate search window! I want as little crap up there as possible, and that's what finally won me over from Mozilla, for the most part. Oh and I need my Wikipedia keyword search, and my bookmarklets...so much to do, and only two more nights of NaNoWriMo to procrastinate with!

By: mk1gti

mk1gti — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:54:53 -0800

Hmmmm, just downloaded the new Opera browser and unnnfffff.. . . F11 Projectile Pooping . . . Grrnnnffff . . .

By: freebird

freebird — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:59:41 -0800

Hey is anyone else noticing the cool two-finger Fwd/Back trick on newer powerbooks not working? I still get up/down, but no side to side action. :(

By: peacay

peacay — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:42:28 -0800

freebird writes "I still get up/down, but no side to side action" *blink* I'm glad the 'command' became 'control'... I was wondering what i was missing.

By: twsf

twsf — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:20:15 -0800

Well, it seems much faster than 1.07, but it broke MeFi: I set my preferences to a serif font, but now all the text on this site renders as arial regardless of any changes I make in the preference settings.

By: Gary

Gary — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:58:27 -0800

It's called SessionSaver .2, and it's already been out for a while. Just as a manual download instead of auto-Mozilla Update. (Though now it's there now.) Thanks. That's actually the one I had installed already, but you need to do a quick hack (read the comment by Brian) to get old extensions to work in the new browser. In a nutshell, you right click to download the xpi file, rename it to zip, edit the .rdf file in there so the max version is something big (1.8 works), rename it to xpi, and run it in fire fox. Not the easiest thing in the world, but I'd miss it and resizeable text areas too much if they weren't there.

By: nkyad

nkyad — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:52:06 -0800

Gary writes "In a nutshell, you right click to download the xpi file, rename it to zip, edit the .rdf file in there so the max version is something big (1.8 works), rename it to xpi, and run it in fire fox." That works most of the time, but it assumes the old extension actually works under the new browser (ie, does not use any feature that changed).

By: Orange Goblin

Orange Goblin — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:15:34 -0800

Why oh why does updating Firefox always have to reset my search plugins?

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:21:21 -0800

You know, I've tried every single release, and I'm finally -- finally, and god knows I've tried -- a convert. The feel has always been subtly wrong, for me, and I didn't like some indefinable thing about the way the renderer rendered HTML. Looked somehow... loose... to me. But this new version has finally got me off Maxthon, which uses the IE renderer. 1.5 is faster, better looking, and the extension architecture rocks. Welcome me to the tribe.

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:21:45 -0800

...and Matt's new design looks half-decent, too!

By: crunchland

crunchland — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:08:00 -0800

AdBlock for v 1.5

By: Bugbread

Bugbread — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:23:13 -0800

Thanks, caution live frogs. Losing Metafilthy was the one thing delaying me from upgrading, and Nightly Tester Tools allowed me the best of both worlds.

By: holycola

holycola — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:28:33 -0800

MetaVersionTracker

By: Lynsey

Lynsey — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:23:59 -0800

Now that I've downloaded FF 1.5, how do I find out when there are updates to my favorite themes and extensions? I liked Abstract PC in 1.07 and I had to keep futzing with Chatzilla to finally make it download a newer version last night that was compatible with FF 1.5. I hate when I plunge into bleeding edge stuff and regret it later!

By: mph

mph — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:05:15 -0800

Anyone tuning in this late in the thread, there's a fix for the OS X/emacs/readline keybindings thing over on ask MeFi that'll work until such time as 1.6 just adopts the correct bindings.

By: weretable and the undead chairs

weretable and the undead chairs — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:15:36 -0800

Ugh. I wish I had not updated. Scrollbars vanished, I can not get them back. I can not get into the options menu, it simply will not work. Actually quite a few things are not working. *becomes enraged, smashes kittens*

By: moonbird

moonbird — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:23:56 -0800

same here - lost most of my extensions, which i wish i knew wouldn't work after the install. *eats live puppies covered in caramel*

By: gren

gren — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:19:16 -0800

A trick for those of you (like me) that lost a lot of extensions...that is, ones that dont think they can work in 1.5... 1. At the location bar, enter: about:config. This will show you a list of Firefox internal preferences. 2. Right-click on the list, select New > String 3. Enter "app.extensions.version" (without quotes) for the preference name. 4. Then, enter "1.0" (without quotes) as the value for app.extensions.version. 5. Restart Firefox 1.5, then enable those disabled Firefox extensions. 6. Restart Firefox 1.5 again to active the extensions. Done. Indeed they can work...I actually changed the string value to "1.4.1" which seems to please some of the newer extensions...some refused to work with 1.0 [via]

By: gren

gren — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:20:26 -0800

Also, its always a good idea to backup your Profile directory, as well as your bookmarks before any upgrade. I backup bookmarks every week, profile dir once a month (of before an update).

By: meehawl

meehawl — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:15:42 -0800

its always a good idea to backup your Profile directory Using MozBackup, right? Doing it by hand is a pain in the arse.