Comments on: Is there any escape... from noise?

Is there any escape... from noise?

loquacious — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:14:06 -0800

MAN - Mothers Against Noise. "Noise is music that uses unpleasant or painful or extremely loud or discordant sound. Noise is also a very dangerous musical trend that is hell bent on destroying civilized culture, this anti-cultural movement is quickly sweeping the globe, and is very dangerous to our youth." via MonkeyFilter and our own panoptican.

By: loquacious

loquacious — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:15:29 -0800

Where the fuck is Negativland? They should get together with MADD and the could call themselves MADDMAN. Then we could form MADAM = Musicians Against Dumb Ass Moms. ULTIMATE POWAR BATTLE FIGHT!

By: loquacious

loquacious — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:15:44 -0800

the = they

By: lupus_yonderboy

lupus_yonderboy — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:20:07 -0800

how very very funny -- complete with misspellings and all -- a classic!

By: mischief

mischief — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:20:21 -0800

heheh

By: quonsar

quonsar — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:23:20 -0800

hoax.

By: bobo123

bobo123 — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:24:51 -0800

That reminds me I'll have to continue my way through the Merzbox at some point today.

By: Faze

Faze — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:27:32 -0800

Oh yeah. This is really real. "...a split release, whatever that is..." In any case, a band doesn't have to be a threat to western civilization to just plain suck.

By: Derive the Hamiltonian of...

Derive the Hamiltonian of... — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:43:20 -0800

Radiohead is a gateway band. This lady know her stuff, hehe.

By: klaruz

klaruz — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:47:10 -0800

Be sure to check out the Mailing List.

By: kenko

kenko — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:48:52 -0800

Hey, this lady is kind of hip. Spencer Yeh? Awright. I had no idea Andrew W.K. toured with To Live and Shave in LA.

By: alumshubby

alumshubby — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:50:12 -0800

I vaguely recall my mother (she started high school in 1945) describing how offensive, degenerate and degrading my grandparents found "swing" music. Plus ca change, I guess....

By: PinkStainlessTail

PinkStainlessTail — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:51:41 -0800

This is only funny if it isn't a parody/hoax.

By: Artifice_Eternity

Artifice_Eternity — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:58:42 -0800

They're too late. Every manifestation of our life is accompanied by noise. The noise, therefore, is familiar to our ear, and has the power to conjure up life itself. Sound, alien to our life, always musical and a thing unto itself, an occasional but unnecessary element, has become to our ears what an overfamiliar face is to our eyes. Noise, however, reaching us in a confused and irregular way from the irregular confusion of our life, never entirely reveals itself to us, and keeps innumerable surprises in reserve. We are therefore certain that by selecting, coordinating and dominating all noises we will enrich men with a new and unexpected sensual pleasure.

By: dhartung

dhartung — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:00:39 -0800

A+++++ WOULD BELIEVE AGAIN

By: luftmensch

luftmensch — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:01:12 -0800

MAN, it's so loud in here?

By: HyperBlue

HyperBlue — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:10:46 -0800

I try to read the website and comprehend M.A.N.'s outrage, but all I can see/hear is blah_blah_blah. P.S. Can I get the name of my band added to the noise list?

By: psmealey

psmealey — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:11:15 -0800

NOISE MUSIC EMBRACES: 1. Rebellion 2. Violence 3. Nihilism 4. Escapism 5. Drugs / Alcoholism 6. Perversion 7. Dissonant / Offensive Sound 8. Paranormal / Occult Activities 9. Anti-God / Anti-Authority 10. Cult-like Organization

All the music that I love embraces at least one of those things.

By: rolypolyman

rolypolyman — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:11:32 -0800

What?? Nothing about It's gettin' hot in here! So take off all your clothes! I am getting so hot, I wanna take my clothes off

By: lupus_yonderboy

lupus_yonderboy — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:12:23 -0800

hmm, perhaps they killed Derek Bailey? I posted a couple of thoughtful articles onto the MAN board... perhaps they'll learn something.

By: jokeefe

jokeefe — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:19:24 -0800

Where do I join up? The other day as I was walking across campus, and a truck was backing up and making that damned 'bleep bleep' sound, and then the friggin' engine kicked in as it drove away, and it was bloody loud. Painful. And the guys in the bumper yard across the alley like to bang things on Saturday mornings, and it pisses me off. Yeah, this site is only funny if it's real, and I doubt that it is. But it's a diversion, at any rate.

By: jokeefe

jokeefe — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:23:50 -0800

On the other hand, I have to give them credit for the message board. That must have taken a bit of work...

By: IshmaelGraves

IshmaelGraves — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:24:37 -0800

Apparently their objection to noise does not extend to rejecting it as a web design motif.

By: photoslob

photoslob — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:25:23 -0800

Well, I know what I'll be doing over the next few hours - checking out some new music! I might even buy a few CD's and then.....hey....wait a minute!

By: jokeefe

jokeefe — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:28:07 -0800

The best part of the message board are the posts from hapless defenders of music: p.s. i love radiohead. i am a christian. i voted libertarian. Heh.

By: jokeefe

jokeefe — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:35:47 -0800

Uh huh.

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:39:01 -0800

I'd buy one of those if the design weren't so crappy.

By: zerokey

zerokey — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:45:07 -0800

"In order to take the spiritual temperature ......" *Flips on some Merzbow and bends over with a smile*

By: crank

crank — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:08:02 -0800

That reminds me I'll have to continue my way through the Merzbox at some point today. If you really do own the Merzbox you are truly a king among men.

By: Joeforking

Joeforking — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:14:13 -0800

Zeppelin rule!

By: Drexen

Drexen — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:31:04 -0800

Lightning Bolt rule too! These people have good taste, but express it in a strange way. People will seek out this music: mission accomplished!

By: muppetboy

muppetboy — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:36:34 -0800

Someone needs to send her a certain Lou Reed album for a late Christmas present.

By: Afroblanco

Afroblanco — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:41:08 -0800

This reminds me of one of those sites that schizophrenics make telling you how to communicate with the rest of the human race now that Julie Andrews and Adolf Hitler have invaded everyone's brains.

By: muppetboy

muppetboy — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:42:59 -0800

And what about Frank Zappa? You can't argue that he's unmelodic.

By: kenko

kenko — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:47:07 -0800

Yeah, I can't stop humming The Black Page.

By: panoptican

panoptican — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:48:46 -0800

The panoptic(a)n is everyone's own. THE PANOPTICAN IS EVERYWHERE. I love that bands list. I think the next Radio MetaChat I do will consist strictly of the bands that Mother's Against Noise claim will destroy civilization. On another note, I wonder how it is for us users who post at MeFi, MeCha and MoFi determine which links go where. For whatever reason, that link screamed MoFi to me.

By: weston

weston — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:56:42 -0800

If they get right on eliminating the Black Eyed Peas, I might give them some cred. They'll probably start with Nirvana or something, though.

By: soiled cowboy

soiled cowboy — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:39:15 -0800

Hokes.

By: bingbangbong

bingbangbong — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:52:50 -0800

The silly thing here is that they're railing against noise one chooses to listen to. I'd rather see them battle noise pollution.

By: lapolla

lapolla — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:15:33 -0800

c'mon, it a fansite. it's by people who LIKE noise.

By: signal

signal — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:37:21 -0800

Then answer me this, if it doesn't matter then why aren't they singing about birds and waterfalls and living in a wonderful world?? The noise scene is also structured a lot like terrorist organizations, they work in small numbers with no clear leader and work feverishly on their 'music' often self releasing cds and records

By: signal

signal — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:38:56 -0800

Did you people know that with super-drag-and-go and the appropriate search-engine-plugins it takes like 2" to begin downloading this ladies reccomendations?

By: quonsar

quonsar — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:44:42 -0800

2 whole inches?

By: signal

signal — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:46:05 -0800

quonsar writes '2 whole inches?' What's an "inch"?

By: Afroblanco

Afroblanco — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:51:40 -0800

On second thought, I believe this is a hoax. The mailto links to a hotmail account.

By: melt away

melt away — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:53:36 -0800

This if funny... if there's one thing I love about the noise scene is the humor. The Radiohead part is classic.

By: melt away

melt away — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:53:49 -0800

is... is... is!!!

By: loquacious

loquacious — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:00:37 -0800

I dunno. I'm not convinced it's a hoax site. I think she might be on to something. I mean, every time I go to a noise show there's hardly anyone there, there's no one running the show and often times random people just walk up and start jamming and making the most lurid, disturbing sounds and noises. And at most shows at some point during the evening I seem to pass out, only to wake up with the unmistakable taste of fresh baby flesh in my mouth and covered in burning demon jizz. At the shows I don't pass out at, there's invariably these huge drink and drug fuelled orgies - giant, quivering, pulsating mountains of naked human flesh doing unspeakable things to each other. Sometimes I think that it's time to burn all my bootlegs and one-offs, atone for my sins and seek the acceptance, forgiveness and ultimate love of Christ. But then I usually just put on some Bourbanese Qualk, Blackhumor, Instagon or Not Breathing or something and those kind of insane urges fade quickly under the unbearable lightness of overwhelming bliss. Furiously masturbing often helps, too.

By: HTuttle

HTuttle — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:10:28 -0800

She has a point. Rock of the past few decades has really sucked ass.

By: HTuttle

HTuttle — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:17:32 -0800

The HTuttle Theory of Distortion Evolution: 1- A generation of kids listens to its music on a crappy audio device which increases the distortion. 2- Those kids grow and start performong music and attempt to replicate the distortion they recall from their early days, and push it further. 3- Next generation hears THAT, but on a crappy audio device which again increases the distortion 4-Go to 1 As validation I cite the experience of growing into a moneyed adult, buying a decent audio system , and having the revelation of hearing the music of youth sounding VERY different than it's remembered.

By: HTuttle

HTuttle — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:18:45 -0800

Or Go to 2, whatever. Yeah, GoTo is idiot coding, but tough toodies.

By: Mr Bluesky

Mr Bluesky — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:35:46 -0800

Yes..but does it go up to 11?

By: loquacious

loquacious — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:10:30 -0800

Eleven. That's not even funny. Eleven. That's ridiculous. Eleven. One... two, three four... Eleven.

By: neckro23

neckro23 — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:20:38 -0800

(what, no mention of Slogun?)

By: loquacious

loquacious — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:38:22 -0800

Also, Htuttle. I'm going to have to refute your flawed and reductionist theory of noise as presented as a negatively entropic feedback loop. There are many paths to noise, not all of them are pop or punk or lo-fi or guitar based. As a wee young kneebiter, I was - and still am - fascinated by crunchy electronic bleepy-bloopy noises. This started very young. About six years old or so. I used to listen to various oldschool electronic toys very, very closely. I'd put my ears right down to the speaker or piezo disc and listen intently, analyzing the sounds for hours on end. Among the toys that I listened to were this educational robot thingy and a "Merlin" handheld game, and a number of other "lower end" devices. In retrospect I now realise that what I was listening to was the FM synthesis and PCM (pulse code modulation) noise - the stairsteps, sawtooths and modulations betwixt and comprising the waveforms themselves. A few years later I was probing a Heathkit Microproccessor training kit with a pair of headphones and some homemade leads, listening in on the gated noise and clock cycles of an old 4 bit digital circuit and it's memory banks, simplistic system bus and clock circuits. All while mucking about with the hexadecimal programming keypad, experimenting with how different memory values or loop functions sounded. Then there were tapes and mucking around with tape decks, tweaking the external or internal speed controls, degrading the recording quality, doing tape splicing and cutups and even very rudimentary mashups. Even later I'd obtained a cheap as dirt Harmony brand Sears special guitar that I'd modified the pickup circuits on, stripped all the frets out of and had turned into a some kind of 5 string space bass that I often threw things at and did feedback experiments on, above and beyond the weird, atonal bass-like "guitar playing" I did on it. The odd thing about this to me is that this all happened years and years before ever hearing anything like Sonic Youth, techno, acid house, or experimental music. I had no idea who Throbbing Gristle was. Nine Inch Nails effectively didn't exist, yet. Pop Will Eat Itself was probably playing tiny bars somewhere in England. The most industrial music I'd heard at that point was probably Depeche Mode or Sigue Sigue Sputnik. And yet, meanwhile there was the pre-Negativland "Over The Edge" radio shows going on somewhere in the Bay Area. I know I'm not alone, either. Many friends that I've made as an adult that like similar music had similar childhoods that involved "circuit bending", tape manipulations, feedback experiments and other similar themes, most of them without any obvious inspiration or connection to existing themes or artists - just doing it because it felt right and was fascinating. "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music." - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989.

By: p3on

p3on — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:35:12 -0800

crank: the merzbox was posted on oink a few days ago. grab it now while the ratio-free time is still in effect :)

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:40:38 -0800

loquacious, that was beautiful. Just in the interest of the gullibility squad: the Nintendo quote is a common misattribution.

By: p3on

p3on — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:42:25 -0800

hmm, whois says that the site is registered to a fellow in the netherlands named "Snijders". that doesn't sound right. i'm guessing hoax as well.

By: Frasermoo

Frasermoo — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:46:18 -0800

awesome loquacious.

By: brandz

brandz — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:19:30 -0800

when baby jesus cries it's noise.

By: brevator

brevator — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:52:54 -0800

I had no idea Andrew W.K. toured with To Live and Shave in LA. I believe he was in To Live and Shave in LA for a time.

By: es_de_bah

es_de_bah — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:55:56 -0800

i'm almost sure this is a joke. if it not...*ahem* HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... (back to my xiu xiu)

By: fungible

fungible — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:32:33 -0800

It worked for me! I immediately started googling most of the band names (the ones I didn't know). I am an ad agency's wet dream. Oh, and no Nurse With Wound? That's criminal.

By: grafholic

grafholic — Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:07:20 -0800

omg mothers gone nuts.

By: If I Had An Anus

If I Had An Anus — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 06:30:36 -0800

MILF!

By: neckro23

neckro23 — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:55:29 -0800

(p3on: thanks for the heads-up. holy crap!)

By: sellout

sellout — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:16:51 -0800

Andrew WK killed Kennedy.

By: malocchio

malocchio — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:53:48 -0800

Seems like their list could use a little flushing out. Perhaps they should consult the NWW list?

By: musicinmybrain

musicinmybrain — Wed, 28 Dec 2005 06:36:10 -0800

...once our kids get hooked on dissonance they will only go further down the road for a bigger kick. It's true! I mean, first it was just a little harmless Romantic-period tonal exploration, right? A few diminished chords thrown in for nonfunctional, coloristic purposes. But look where it gets you: suddenly, you're listening to people who chose their chords for sonic effects rather than traditional functional harmony. Who thought Ravel and Debussy and Scriabin would be gateway composers? But then I started listening to Shostakovich and the bitonality wormed its way into my head and pretty soon I had all of his string quartets and now I can listen to music from the Tallis to Mozart to Beethoven to Respighi to Ives to Schoenberg to Cage to the ROVA Saxophone Quartet and enjoy it! Where will the madness end? To the creators of this site, if they were crazy enough not to be joking, and to those who actually do think like them: Some of this music is legitimately crap. However, the fact that you don't understand something (especially when that something is musical) does not automatically make it bad.

By: xdugef

xdugef — Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:54:52 -0800

The "official" mothers against noise wesbite is MOTHERSAGAINSTNOISE.US. The strange thing is that the address and phone number in the registration is the same as several record labels including Island Records which btw is the label under which Andrew WK released his last two records. Is it merely a coincidince that Andrew WK is involved with one of the bands in the top ten list of "noise" offenders?? Domain Name: MOTHERSAGAINSTNOISE.US Domain ID: D9279687-US Sponsoring Registrar: .US REGISTRAR L.L.C. Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registrant ID: 40281715 Registrant Name: Mothers Against Noise Registrant Organization: Mothers Against Noise Registrant Address1: 825 Eighth Avenue Registrant City: New York Registrant State/Province: NY Registrant Postal Code: 10019 Registrant Country: United States Registrant Country Code: US Registrant Phone Number: +1.2123338000

By: divabat

divabat — Sat, 14 Jan 2006 03:02:38 -0800

Oh, this group does exist. Except they're known as Malaysian Tabloid Newspapers and Those That Read Them.