Growing Up Sexually

January 26, 2006 12:30 PM

Growing Up SexuallyThere is an outfit called Growing Up Sexually and on their website there were two pictures discussed one showed a boy taking a shower in cow urine (NSFW). Cow urine is more sanitary than water in some parts of the world. The other showed what looked like a sexual act on a cow but in actuality young boys perform cunnilingus (NSFW) on cattle to stimulate mating. Be glad that you live in the culture that you live in, others are not as fortunate as you
posted by halekon (98 comments total)

holy shit i did not need to see that.
posted by Doorstop at 12:43 PM on January 26, 2006

A big NSFW is needed for those pics, halekon!
posted by BobFrapples at 12:46 PM on January 26, 2006

Yow. That is all.
posted by erebora at 12:46 PM on January 26, 2006

Bob, I'm having a hard time envisioning a SFW picture of a young boy performing cunnilingus on a cow.
posted by justkevin at 12:47 PM on January 26, 2006

Did anybody think the link contained in the phrase "young boys perform cunnilingus on cattle" could even possibly be suitable for work? Does that really require an NSFW tag? Is anybody that dense?
posted by raedyn at 12:48 PM on January 26, 2006

I was expecting an ARTICLE about the aforementioned cunnilingus... not necessarily a pic of the actual act.
posted by BobFrapples at 12:50 PM on January 26, 2006

Ya know, there's probably some sociological and/or psychological educational value in studying this sort of thing, but I think I'll pass on this one.

/ Yeesh!!
posted by LordSludge at 12:50 PM on January 26, 2006

Why didn't he just give her a handjob?
posted by stavrogin at 12:51 PM on January 26, 2006

What does taking a shower in cow piss and performing cunnilingus on cow to stimiluate mating have to do with sexuality?
posted by melt away at 12:52 PM on January 26, 2006

Hint: if you look in the status bar of your browser - typically at the bottom - and hover over the link, it will tell you the URL that will load if you click the link. This URL ended in .jpg files of that type are always images.
posted by raedyn at 12:52 PM on January 26, 2006

What does taking a shower in cow piss and performing cunnilingus on cow to stimiluate mating have to do with sexuality? - melt away

I was reading some of the intro info on the main link, but I couldn't easily find the answer to that question. It's a good question.
posted by raedyn at 12:54 PM on January 26, 2006

Cue the elephants!
posted by furtive at 12:56 PM on January 26, 2006

Hint: if you look in the status bar of your browser - typically at the bottom - and hover over the link, it will tell you the URL that will load if you click the link. This URL ended in .jpg files of that type are always images.

Thanks, raedyn... I am aware of that. Obviously I didn't look at the URL too closely this time... call me naive for not expecting a disturbing jpeg straight off of ConsumptionJunction.com.

I'm just saying that if I was gonna include some horrific photo from rotten.com in my FPP, I'd give a little extra "heads up" to everyone, just to be thorough.
posted by BobFrapples at 12:56 PM on January 26, 2006

What does taking a shower in cow piss and performing cunnilingus on cow to stimiluate mating have to do with sexuality?


Everything. If you can touch it, eat it, smell it, see it or hear it, somewhere on the world someone gets off on it.
posted by CynicalKnight at 12:56 PM on January 26, 2006

"I was expecting an ARTICLE about the aforementioned cunnilingus... not necessarily a pic of the actual act."

It's says it's a picture. When it says it's a picture of the actual act, I think it's reasonable fpr you to necessarily expect a pic of the actual act.

Please take you're obvious dunderhead status into account while using MetaFilter at work. M'Kay? I say this not to be snarky, but simply in the hopes that this simple wisdom might prevent problem for you in your future.

I have your back Bob, but you have to take the first step. Please make a Post-It about your mental limitations and place it on your monitor. Seriously.
posted by y6y6y6 at 12:57 PM on January 26, 2006

Jeepers.

Also, I think this is the first time I've seen a poster whose FPP count was higher than his comment count. Intriguing.
posted by Gator at 12:57 PM on January 26, 2006

Be glad that you live in the culture that you live in, others are not as fortunate as you

Is there a point to this post other than juvenile mockery of another culture's practices or make ridiculous value judgements?

Go back to Fark you jackass.
posted by docgonzo at 1:01 PM on January 26, 2006

Please make a Post-It about your mental limitations and place it on your monitor. Seriously.

How kind of you, y6y6y6. Your helpful demeanor and pleasant attitude has certainly helped me to a great extent.

And some people complain that Mefi has degenerated into a haven of rude assholes... nay, say I!
posted by BobFrapples at 1:04 PM on January 26, 2006

"I'd give a little extra "heads up" to everyone"

Really?

"there were two pictures [...] The other showed [...] cunnilingus on cattle"

And you clicked on it. And then you said, "I was expecting an ARTICLE about the aforementioned cunnilingus... not necessarily a pic of the actual act."

Dude. Seriously. This whole "Internets" thing may not be for you. The post may be very bad. But that doesn't change the fact that you clicked "young boys perform cunnilingus on cattle" at work.
posted by y6y6y6 at 1:04 PM on January 26, 2006

Disgusting!

Now excuse me while I finish my big glass of milk.
posted by HTuttle at 1:05 PM on January 26, 2006

Forget clicking, I am probably going to be in trouble just for reading this thread
posted by poppo at 1:09 PM on January 26, 2006

How is eating a cow not a sexual act?

And no, I'm not clicking any of those links. I need my job still.
posted by fenriq at 1:09 PM on January 26, 2006

I wasn't intending to be an asshole with my explanation of the status bar, though I can see why you might have thought I was in light of the tone of my previous post. That comment was actually intended as helpful, since not everyone knows all browser features.

I also surf at work sometimes, so I'm careful of what I click on. For example, I consistently view the URL before following a link.
posted by raedyn at 1:11 PM on January 26, 2006

if you look in the status bar of your browser ... and hover over the link, it will tell you the URL that will load if you click the link. This URL ended in .jpg files of that type are always images.

Yes, and when I hover over the link , the title of the picture is: african-child-feeds-from-cow-s-anus

No way in hell am I clicking on that.
posted by R. Mutt at 1:14 PM on January 26, 2006

raedyn, I wasn't referring to you as the asshole, I knew you were trying to be helpful.
posted by BobFrapples at 1:15 PM on January 26, 2006

You know, that picture appeared in Life Magazine, umpteen years ago -- sometime in the late 1970s or early 80s. It was captioned something like, "Boy stimulates cow to increase milk production." It was Life Magazine. I wasn't shocked.
posted by jfwlucy at 1:19 PM on January 26, 2006

If one looks at the second picture closely (and lovingly), it would appear that our hero very well may be sporting wood. That may be a detail which would bring us close to the edge of an answer to this question;


"What does taking a shower in cow piss and performing cunnilingus on cow to stimiluate mating have to do with sexuality?"
posted by hatchetjack at 1:20 PM on January 26, 2006

"there were two pictures [...] The other showed [...] cunnilingus on cattle"

I think "there are two pictures [...] The other shows [...]" might have helped a little.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 1:21 PM on January 26, 2006

halekon: Be glad that you live in the culture that you live in, others are not as fortunate as you

docgonzo: Is there a point to this post other than juvenile mockery of another culture's practices or make ridiculous value judgements?

Go back to Fark you jackass.

Oh, please. That was a benign statement -- it was clearly not intended as mockery. If anything, it was intended to provoke sympathy, not mockery. As for the "value judgements" [sic], I don't think it's much of a stretch to suggest that those who partake in these practices would be happy to cease them if suitable alternatives existed.
posted by pardonyou? at 1:21 PM on January 26, 2006

those who partake in these practices would be happy to cease them if suitable alternatives existed

I'm going to go ahead and post "What's wrong with girls?" just to, you know, get it out of the way.
posted by Armitage Shanks at 1:24 PM on January 26, 2006

Actually, the "cunnilingus" pic is named "BNW-african-child-feeds-from-cow-s-anus.jpg", which is probably more disgusting and sad. I really hope it's mis-labeled.

...others are not as fortunate as you

Indeed.
posted by LordSludge at 1:26 PM on January 26, 2006

Thanks for the NSFW tags, halekon!
posted by BobFrapples at 1:29 PM on January 26, 2006

You know, that picture appeared in Life Magazine...

That's right. Delivered to the doorstep of my entire neighborhood.

I decided against adding it to the collection of "I dreamed I [blanked] in my Maidenform Bra" pictures that I kept under the mattress.

But it was a close call.
posted by StickyCarpet at 1:33 PM on January 26, 2006

Worst cow porn EVAH!!!
posted by Zorro on Doughnuts at 1:46 PM on January 26, 2006

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Just closing poster's last sentence.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 1:47 PM on January 26, 2006

At least there's no shitting elephants.
posted by wakko at 1:48 PM on January 26, 2006

I found it solrt of stimulating
posted by Postroad at 1:50 PM on January 26, 2006

Why in god's name would he have to use his tongue on the cow? Wouldn't simply frigging the cow work as well? Not knowing the true source of the pictures, I can't help but wonder how accurate the information really is.
posted by nlindstrom at 1:51 PM on January 26, 2006

Crikey Moses.

I'm not seeing what this has to do with 'growing up sexually' either. Nor can I find these photos on the Growing Up Sexually site (the images linked in the post are hosted at a different domain). And then there's the fact that the filename of the second image doesn't match what halekon tells us is being depicted.

All of which makes this post even more, um, peculiar.
posted by jack_mo at 1:52 PM on January 26, 2006

poppo, please report to the HR office.
posted by nlindstrom at 1:54 PM on January 26, 2006

i think the official term is cownilingus
posted by troybob at 1:58 PM on January 26, 2006

Actually, the "cunnilingus" pic is named "BNW-african-child-feeds-from-cow-s-anus.jpg"

Thank you, LordSludge, for pointing out something that I noticed without even clicking on the photo. Somehow I find it less disturbing that the starving child is finding food at the southbound end of a northbound cow. At least that way, he'd be getting something out of the exchange.
posted by Snowflake at 2:02 PM on January 26, 2006

I'd give a little extra "heads up" to everyone

!!!!!! funniest thing I've read all week !!!!!!
That boy's head is about as far up as it can go, dontcha think?
posted by If I Had An Anus at 2:08 PM on January 26, 2006

Be glad that you live in the culture that you live in, others are not as fortunate as you

I am.

That's fucking foul.
posted by codeofconduct at 2:11 PM on January 26, 2006

That's fucking foul.

better than fucking fowl.
posted by quonsar at 2:21 PM on January 26, 2006

I'd rather fuck fowl than eat cow.
posted by codeofconduct at 2:23 PM on January 26, 2006

Forget clicking, I am probably going to be in trouble just for reading this thread

Yeah, don't get fired for reading metafilter like I did. But if you do, can we form a club or something? We could make t-shirts....
posted by beth at 2:27 PM on January 26, 2006

namblafilter
posted by dgaicun at 2:31 PM on January 26, 2006

Sounds discusting.
posted by delmoi at 2:34 PM on January 26, 2006

How long do you have to follow a cow before you can wash your hair in its urine? Also what kind of conditioner would you use afterwards?
posted by Gungho at 2:34 PM on January 26, 2006

Mootregena
posted by dgaicun at 2:37 PM on January 26, 2006

Halekon's FPPs tend to be... odd.

I find myself a little creeped-out.
posted by five fresh fish at 2:40 PM on January 26, 2006

Please take you're obvious dunderhead status into account

What do you say to the person who says this, but does not him/herself understand the difference between "your" and "you're"? Should I advise them to take their obvious dunderhead status into account whenever they attempt to write words in a sentence?

Perhaps someone like this should put a Post-It Note on their monitor as a reminder.

Just sayin'.

---

Since the FPP says "pictures discussed" (emphasis mine) and the references to the pictures are in the past tense ("showed" instead of "shows"), I can understand how someone might have been led to believe that the links led to the relevant portions of the aforementioned discussion of the pictures, rather than to the pictures themselves.

Having said that...I didn't even want to read the entire FPP, much less click the links. Ew.
posted by davejay at 2:41 PM on January 26, 2006

Something similar is done to stimulate milk production. The cow farmer inserts his arm up to the elbow. Its part of animal husbandry.
posted by StickyCarpet at 2:55 PM on January 26, 2006

For the record, the photos appear in this article, which may be NSFB* as it calls Tony Blair "angel of light". There. It's also in the url. But don't say I didn't warn you!

That they also ended up on a site advertising itself as "sick free adult humor, tasteless dirty jokes" (no, not Metafilter, Consumption Junction) is surely the best example of the superiority of western culture.

*Not Safe For Brits

So, is the post about the "Growing up Sexually" website, or about poverty porn?
posted by funambulist at 2:56 PM on January 26, 2006

"Growing up Sexually"?? explain, please.
posted by mr.marx at 2:57 PM on January 26, 2006

on postview, what funambulist said
posted by mr.marx at 2:58 PM on January 26, 2006

Ref the NSFW issue, actually what the post says is that two pictures are *discussed* Discussion = words = an article if you ask me...
posted by A189Nut at 3:00 PM on January 26, 2006

I liked it!
posted by Balisong at 3:11 PM on January 26, 2006

What kind of food do you "search for" in a cow's anus anyway? I take it there's no pizza in there, so why not just come clean and say he's 'sucking shit' from a cow's anus? Also why not just eat the shit on the ground, and save the return on your effort? Or why not just eat the grass the cows eating (because I doubt it becomes more nutritious once the cow digests it)? I'm pretty sure the input tastes better too. Or, here's an idea, why not just eat the fucking cow!

The best question, though, seeing as how this post was basically a deceptive practical joke to put up a stupid picture of a nonwhite person eating from a cow's ass (ha ha ha. Farktastic!), and the main link contains absolutely nothing of interest, why hasn't this been deleted yet?
posted by dgaicun at 3:17 PM on January 26, 2006

This message (SFW) claims that the "husbandry" explanation is correct, as per the FPP.

SJB
posted by StephenB at 3:19 PM on January 26, 2006

Someone in Africa just clicked on a picture of an American manually manipulating a bull to collect its semen, and said "Eww!".
posted by Devils Slide at 3:22 PM on January 26, 2006

five fresh fish writes "Halekon's FPPs tend to be... odd."

Not to mention, they are the rare user whose links outnumber their comments.
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane at 3:22 PM on January 26, 2006

I'm at home, and I still ain't clickin' the JPGs.
posted by delmoi at 3:23 PM on January 26, 2006

I've got a hard on.
What was the point of this FPP again?
posted by Joeforking at 3:28 PM on January 26, 2006

delmoi, what are ya, chicken? These boys were doing cows man, you're safe.

I ain't clickin it
Cause I'm a gonna chickin' it
Eat cows, cook them first.
posted by fenriq at 3:28 PM on January 26, 2006

Strangely enough, I think the content of this post, while gross in its own way, made me slightly less nauseous then the content of at least two other FFPs today.

Make of that what you will.
posted by Jezztek at 3:40 PM on January 26, 2006

Be glad that you live in the culture that you live in, others are not as fortunate as you

so the point of this post is "clean your plate, there are children eating from cow anus in africa"?
posted by quonsar at 3:48 PM on January 26, 2006

"Why in god's name would he have to use his tongue on the cow? Wouldn't simply frigging the cow work as well?"

If you don't go down on the cow, she won't go down you you.

"Also why not just eat the shit on the ground, and save the return on your effort?"

Because it gets dirt on it, and that's just not sanitary.

(Why is this still here?)
posted by klangklangston at 4:02 PM on January 26, 2006

a deceptive practical joke to put up a stupid picture of a nonwhite person eating from a cow's ass

Rascism callout. WTF difference does it make what color the kid is? In fact, does it matter that it is a kid? It's a human being eating cow-ass. That should be wrong in any culture, color, race, creed, man, woman or child.

In fact, if your going to miss the point at least miss it in a better way, be offended that it is a child doing this, ignore what color he is.
posted by codeofconduct at 4:19 PM on January 26, 2006

I'm at home, and I still ain't clickin' the JPGs.

True that.
posted by youarenothere at 4:23 PM on January 26, 2006

"Rascism callout. WTF difference does it make what color the kid is? In fact, does it matter that it is a kid? It's a human being eating cow-ass. That should be wrong in any culture, color, race, creed, man, woman or child."

BZZZZZZT.
Ethnocentrism callout.
"What difference does it make what color the kid is? All people should act like Westerners!"
posted by klangklangston at 4:28 PM on January 26, 2006

This is sad. Those kids were obviously malnurished or undernurished hell, they're starving! I've read that they will also nick the necks of their domistic animals to drink small amounts of blood, just enough to keep from starving to death.

Sad.
posted by snsranch at 4:37 PM on January 26, 2006

We call it..."The Aristocrats!"
posted by Cookiebastard at 4:41 PM on January 26, 2006

“namblafilter”
says the “incest guy”

From GUS:
...
In which way are curricula presented as necessity and how are (necessary) curricula subverted and transgressed? For instance, how are bodies reduced to curricula, thus governed or disciplined by them? Also, how does curriculum figure as a contemporary paradigm for societal control of stratified bodies?
...
In answering these questions, we need to address hegemonic and historical discourses about pleasure as taught, educated, learned; as sex play vs first/serious sex (notionally, rehearsive vs real sex) and familiar curricular ideas about sexual derivation, inauguration, substitution, seduction.
...
So there is anthropological well as political utility in an effort to try and digest materials as a field (rather than an instrumental dimension).


“Be glad that you live in the culture that you live in, others are not as fortunate as you”

See, given the subject matter of GUS, I think klangklangston
is on to something with the ethnocentric call out.

Apparently the idea is to address ethnographic and ethnological aspects of “sexual”/gender/erotic/bodily “development”, during childhood and early adolescence using ethnogeographic, topical, and bibliographic schemes.

As opposed to showing kids engaging in animal husbandry and showering in urine as confirmation of nationalism or some sort of cultural or disconfirmative bias.

....of course I actually read the fucking thing.

And it sounds interesting to me. The ethnographic index is a fascinating read. I had no idea who the !Ko bushmen were much less that they extensively instruct girls on marital life after menarche and pretty much ignore the boys on instruction in sexual matters.
posted by Smedleyman at 4:54 PM on January 26, 2006

Fenriq:
"How is eating a cow not a sexual act?"

When it's a hamburger!
I'll be here all week folks.
posted by shanevsevil at 4:59 PM on January 26, 2006

Ethnocentrism callout.
"What difference does it make what color the kid is? All people should act like Westerners!"

Oh give me a fucking break. The kid is starving and there is no water. He's eating cow ass to survive and he's washing himself with urine to make some effort to be clean. How does my being offended by the fact that this is how bad things are for that child, and others, equate to All people should act like Westerners!" This is okay just because it's a 'different culture'? Frankly, I'm pretty sure that this is disturbing for anyone in any culture. But, hey, you can call it ethnocentrism if it makes you feel better.
posted by codeofconduct at 4:59 PM on January 26, 2006

“He's eating cow ass to survive”

That's animal husbandry (apparently) but there are Amish kids who jack off pigs for husbandry purposes, so...

“The kid is starving and there is no water”

If that’s your point, then yeah, that does suck.
posted by Smedleyman at 5:05 PM on January 26, 2006

Smedleyman, if you read further you will find that these photos may have been captioned wrongly for specific purposes. As I understand it the photos were taken to show poverty at some of it's worst.

Seems like some people just want to be so open-minded that they accept, literally, anything and everything as being okay, 'cause it's, ya know, different and from a different culture and since that's the case, how dare we make any sort of judgement call. If we do we must be ethnocentric.

Whatever.
posted by codeofconduct at 5:06 PM on January 26, 2006

That's animal husbandry (apparently) but there are Amish kids who jack off pigs for husbandry purposes, so...

Can you seriously not see the difference?
posted by codeofconduct at 5:07 PM on January 26, 2006

Where are #1 and #2 today?

I am not even coming near those links.
posted by spiderwire at 5:36 PM on January 26, 2006

“Can you seriously not see the difference?”
- codeofconduct

Looks like the kid is starving to me. The photo is being used however in the GUS site which is about sexuality.
(And I used the qualifier “apparently” - because the link is to biafra)

And I was addressing your point only tangentially (as opposed to directly addressing halekon’s comment - not that given how klangklangston’s comment was linked to yours it’s not a reasonable assumption to make on your part
)

And I was agreeing with you that if your point is that it’s wrong for the kid to be starving and without water and eating cow ass to survive that it is indeed wrong and thus not ethnocentric. The kid shouldn’t have to do that.

However if this is ADDITIONALLY one of the means by which the kid learns about biology instead of the traditional western school “birds and bees” then that is something that needs to be studied and is not at all subject to a value judgement. It’s just data.

Where’s the problem?

“Some people just want to be so open-minded that they accept, literally, anything and everything as being okay.” -codeofconduct

I agree that cannabalism is wrong. Apparently though eating cow ass and showing in urine is one of the things these people have to do to survive. I agree that that sucks and they shouldn’t have to do that. I’m not making a moral or ethnic assertion. The study is sexuality, and - like amish kids - this is one way they learn about sexuality in general. It’s data. Neutral. It becomes a non-neutral culture issue when someone says “Be glad that you live in the CULTURE that you live in...” and misses the point of this study.
Nothing against halekon who I’m sure is a nice person who meant something more along the lines of “be glad your not poor and have to suffer this way” but used the term culture which opened a whole unfortunate can of worms in the thread that I felt had to be addressed otherwise I wouldn’t have commented.
No offense to you either, codeofconduct .

----

Now...you or anyone else want to fight with me for no reason?

Smedleyman: “Ok, I respect your point.”
Whoeverfilter: “Fuck you, what the fuck you know?”

‘Cause I’m getting pretty tired of taking shit for being reasonable when other people are making snidecommentsfilter and I’d love to beat the living shit out of someone.

A nice scrap I haven’t sparred for too damn long. I need raw meat and blood goddammit, bring it the fuck on.

Yeah, probably too much brain work lately, causing a major shift back to the gut.
Fuck it. I’ll shoot the kid. Put him out of his misery. The cow too. We’ll do lunch.
*puts on boots*
posted by Smedleyman at 5:38 PM on January 26, 2006

The ethnographic index is a fascinating read.

I may be a bit rash here but what it looks like to me is a collection of scattered and largely outdated anecdotes mixing different eras together, with a preference for picking the most backwards extremes. Try and click on the entries for countries/populations you know well and see for yourself.

Plus the fact the author picked up those two photographs as symbolic of something to do with sexuality also tells me something, and it's not exactly "credibility inspiring", even it's a university project.
posted by funambulist at 5:40 PM on January 26, 2006

What docgonzo said.
posted by squirrel at 5:40 PM on January 26, 2006

“the fact the author picked up those two photographs as symbolic of something to do with sexuality also tells me something, and it's not exactly "credibility inspiring" “

Ok, good point.

(waits for it)
posted by Smedleyman at 5:44 PM on January 26, 2006

there are Amish kids who jack off pigs for husbandry purposes

Be careful among those English, Rebecca Loos
posted by PeterMcDermott at 5:57 PM on January 26, 2006

AMAZING POST A+++ BEST OF THE CATTLE URINE AND CUNNILINGUS WEB
posted by stenseng at 6:09 PM on January 26, 2006

As I understand it the photos were taken to show poverty at some of it's worst.

Yeah. Thank god Bob Geldof didn't see this last July or we'd have had those pictures splattered on the Live 8 megascreen.

This is not a report about poverty, and it's not even a charity appeal inevitably pulling emotional strings, it's just two pictures thrown in to attract attention (success!) in a post that is totally unclear about its topic.

I'm reluctant to use the phrase "taking the piss" for obvious reasons here, but that's what it looks like.
posted by funambulist at 6:13 PM on January 26, 2006

I found it solrt of stimulating
posted by Postroad at 1:50 PM PST on January 26 [!]

Man, oh, man.... That explains everything.
posted by y2karl at 6:44 PM on January 26, 2006

Where are #1 and #2 today?

busy deleting the really offensive posts, like the singing, dancing 7th grader.
posted by quonsar at 6:59 PM on January 26, 2006

Does it make me a bad person that I laughed my ass off at that second picture?
posted by friarjohn at 8:09 PM on January 26, 2006

It appears to be more from an e-mail discussion list here and here

Corresponding article is named "Poverty in Africa and Tony Blair as the
Angel of Light". The caption reads "Sickening image of a child searching
for food in the anus of a cow."
http://magazine.biafranigeriaworld.com/unworah/2005may16-poverty-in-africa-tony-blair-as-angel-of-light.html

The mix up appears to be that one of the contributors cites the image in GUS and the caption from thebiafranigeriaworld source is wrong .
(The actualy source is Nomachi, A. K. (phot., 1989) The Nile. Hong Kong: Odyssey. 1990 Dutch translation, Langs de Oevers van de Nijl, p45 where it is stated that "young boys are seen performing cunnilingus on cattle
to stimulate mating" (as cited in GUS II, ch.8).)

From what that says anyway.

Most of the images from GUS appear to be less controversial.

So I'd give it more credibility than the cow photos would at first glance remove. Said credibility which is instantly taken away with the "music for growing up sexually" part of the study.

(Charlie Parker (complete live savoy) - Oop Bop Sh'Bam)

I like the bird, but WTF?
posted by Smedleyman at 8:11 PM on January 26, 2006

“the fact the author picked up those two photographs as symbolic of something to do with sexuality also tells me something, and it's not exactly "credibility inspiring" “

Ok, good point.

(waits for it)
posted by Smedleyman at 5:44 PM PST on January 26 [!]

I agree.

Smedleyman, I meant no offense, either.

...kid learns about biology instead of the traditional western school “birds and bees” then that is something that needs to be studied and is not at all subject to a value judgement. It’s just data.

If I thought that this was a legit group of studies (some of them may be) then I would agree, wholeheartedly. However, I tend to think that some of this is just wank-material.

I could be wrong, I know that, but some of articles don't seem strong enough to support the 'this is just data' idea. I wish that was all it was, but somehow, I don't think so.
posted by codeofconduct at 8:23 PM on January 26, 2006

Since I'm about to hit the hay, I'm going to thank the OP for the NSFW tags, as I know I didn't need to see that as the last thing before dreamland.
posted by Busithoth at 8:36 PM on January 26, 2006

And I thought I had it bad when I had to push Bessie's prolapsed vagina back in and follow her around for five minutes, elbow deep in cow cooter, hoping that the damn thing would stay in.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:21 PM on January 26, 2006

Alvy, you just demonstrated how words can be more powerful than photos...

*thank you* for that mental image. Nothing like visions of a bovine prolapse in the morning to wake you up good and proper.

Said credibility which is instantly taken away with the "music for growing up sexually" part of the study.

Well, Smedleyman, obviously you need to be a Dutch sexologist to be so unashamed to declare a love for Chillout Ibiza compilations! The rest of us backwards enthnographics plagued by ignorance about menarche can only entertain that passion in the closet.

(and not one but five tracks from these guys, ooh, trippy basslines, sex, the Netherlands... I'm starting to understand the origins of this project)
posted by funambulist at 1:50 AM on January 27, 2006

Well, I read this whole thread and still don't understand the FPP itself. Congrats.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 3:53 AM on January 27, 2006

Ditto.
posted by furtive at 5:22 AM on January 27, 2006