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	<title>Comments on: The Cascadian Order of the Strict Conformance</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:13:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>The Cascadian Order of the Strict Conformance</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://design.geckotribe.com/monastery/"&gt;CSS Trappist Monastery.&lt;/a&gt; Like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.csszengarden.com/&quot;&gt;Zen Garden&lt;/a&gt;, but without any images (other than the &quot;chosen twelve&quot;).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:07:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>brownpau</dc:creator>		<category>design</category>		<category>webstandards</category>		<category>css</category>		<category>trappist</category>		<category>monastery</category>		<category>omg</category>
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		<title>By: lemonfridge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208634</link>	
		<description>The CSS Zen Garden...but less good?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:13:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: slimepuppy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208636</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://design.geckotribe.com/monastery/?verse=1&quot;&gt;Catacombs &lt;/a&gt;is amazing. 

On firefox it&apos;s a resounding success of the infamous &quot;guess where the links are!&quot; CSS design.

Lemonfridge nailed it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:19:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Plutor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208637</link>	
		<description>Like the Zen Garden, but &lt;s&gt;without any images (other than the &quot;chosen twelve&quot;)&lt;/s&gt; eye-stabbingly hideous.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:19:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Plutor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Meagan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208639</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll stick with Zen Garden, thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:20:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: effwerd</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208641</link>	
		<description>Plutor nailed it. 

&lt;i&gt;On firefox it&apos;s a resounding success of the infamous &quot;guess where the links are!&quot; CSS design.&lt;/i&gt;

On Safari, too. But hey, at least we can see the chosen 12.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:21:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Plutor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208642</link>	
		<description>Also, &lt;a href=&quot;http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.csszengarden.com%2F&quot;&gt;The Garden&lt;/a&gt; validates.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdesign.geckotribe.com%2Fmonastery%2F&quot;&gt;The Monastery&lt;/a&gt; does not (because of a typo in the really weird double-deep div style).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:24:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Plutor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208654</link>	
		<description>I like the gif-style blending on this picture:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://design.geckotribe.com/img/monastery/gecko.gif&quot;&gt;

which makes it look like crap on any non-white background.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:31:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208657</link>	
		<description>actualy &lt;a href=&quot;http://design.geckotribe.com/monastery/?verse=3&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt; is OK.  The other two are pretty bad (especialy &apos;catacombs&apos;. WTF?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:32:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caution live frogs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208667</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m a little amazed that the best anyone can think to do with these images is use them as bullet points. No background tiling of a header or div, even. What makes this site worth visiting?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:38:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>caution live frogs</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: caution live frogs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208670</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;delmoi&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/49145#1208657&apos;&gt;writes&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;&quot;actualy &lt;a href=&quot;http://design.geckotribe.com/monastery/?verse=3&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt; is OK.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Actually that one takes up less than half of my monitor and is painfully tiny for me to read. Far as I&apos;m concerned, fixed width content in a &quot;what css can do for me&quot; = meh. You could at least throw a display: table on the wrapper and center it in the screen.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:40:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: freebird</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208679</link>	
		<description>Most of the current designs aren&apos;t great, but I like the idea of a &quot;pure&quot; CSS version of the zen garden. The CSS Zen Garden re-awakened my interest in CSS and was one of the first places I realized how cool it was and that it was finally useful after years of crap workarounds. But the (very beautiful) work there tends to the graphics heavy, and I think a pure CSS version is a great idea for learning and the challenge.

If you can do better pure CSS, submit it! The poor guy probably has his hands full running the site - it *depends* on you doing better. It&apos;s discouraging all the comments so far are just whining about the initial few designs, rather than the idea. Well, complaining about the images is pretty valid - blech.

I&apos;ll be going back to it to see what people come up with - though I fully expect the best ones to not use any of the &quot;12 Chosen Images&quot;. Show us what you got, MetaFilter!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:43:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: darkstar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208714</link>	
		<description>Actually, I thought the Catacombs design MEANT to be kind of a &quot;search-in-the-dark&quot;.  In that sense, it seemed like a very clever conceptual design...in the spirit of stumbling on things in the catacombs.  Perhaps not very practical, but very creative.

But I realize now that I was probably projecting a bit more artistic creativity into the design than was actually there...

Still, some of those on Zen Garden are incredibly beautiful, but seem to rely (as has been said) heavily on extremely nice graphics.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:00:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: freebird</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208721</link>	
		<description>I thought &apos;catacombs&apos; was kind of a joke/pun too, darkstar. I also thought the one that dynamically rewrote the content into commie propaganda was funny too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:15:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nixerman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208725</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m pretty sure the whole site is a joke. Likely an intentional one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:22:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: msjen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208749</link>	
		<description>It made me laugh, good and hard.  The site seems to be taking the piss out of folks who take CSS purity too seriously.  

Hark!  I may be uttering blasphemy...  runs for safety...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:15:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: msjen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208753</link>	
		<description>Further question... Is the CSS Monastery located in the Cascade Mountains?

;o)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:16:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joeforking</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208760</link>	
		<description>CSS Monks are mammals....</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:19:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joeforking</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: brundlefly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208781</link>	
		<description>I just submitted a design.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:37:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>brundlefly</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: freebird</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208792</link>	
		<description>Color me trolled, but I think the site is in earnest - with a sense of humor. Why is it so silly to see what can be done without using images? Half of what&apos;s so great about CSS IMHO is that you can do cool and beautiful things without using image hackery.

*anxiously refreshes to see when brundlefly&apos;s submission shows up*</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:49:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>freebird</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: funambulist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208794</link>	
		<description>don&apos;t listen to freebird, he&apos;s clearly involved in the prank.

I especially like the text in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://design.geckotribe.com/monastery/?verse=2&quot;&gt;aposthasy&lt;/a&gt; version.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:52:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: freebird</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208808</link>	
		<description>Yah funambulist, I liked the text and I didn&apos;t realize you could do so much content modification with CSS!

&lt;small&gt;er, I mean, Prank? What prank? This site is The Most Important Website in the History of the World. It will fix the internet, usher in Web 2.5, and cause Macs running Firefox to be able to make a good cup of Strong Coffee.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:03:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: palinode</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1208871</link>	
		<description>I scrolled past the post and I thought it said &quot;CSI Trappist Monastery&quot;. Imagine my disappointment.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:23:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>palinode</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: brundlefly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1209012</link>	
		<description>freebird: Haven&apos;t heard anything from the guy yet. My stylesheet also looks pretty incoherent in IE... According to the site, that&apos;s not a deal-breaker, but... Yeah. It looks really bad in IE. Like just about everything does.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:07:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>brundlefly</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ikalliom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1209377</link>	
		<description>Ok that&apos;s cool and all. Where&apos;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bottledbeer.co.uk/index.html?beerid=134&quot;&gt;beer&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 02:00:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: darkstar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1209392</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I scrolled past the post and I thought it said &quot;CSI Trappist Monastery&quot;. Imagine my disappointment.

posted by palinode &lt;/i&gt;


Thank God I&apos;m not the only one...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 03:19:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: freebird</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1209649</link>	
		<description>I see two new ones up, both a bit more interesting in my untrained opinion. Is one of them yours brundlefly?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:22:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brundlefly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1209660</link>	
		<description>Yep. Mine is Godard.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:27:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>brundlefly</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: brownpau</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1209799</link>	
		<description>And &quot;Laudate&quot; is mine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:47:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: freebird</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49145/The-Cascadian-Order-of-the-Strict-Conformance#1209896</link>	
		<description>Cool! I totally want to try making one, but haven&apos;t had time. It&apos;s fun to think up names though. &quot;Bogomil&quot;, perhaps? &quot;Inquisition&quot;? &quot;Sadistic Catechistic&quot;!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:54:44 -0800</pubDate>
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