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	<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:24:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Cartoons about Cartoons about Cartoons</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons</link>	
		<description>Meta-cartoon-filter: Can&apos;t get enough international incident in your funny pages? Dan Cagle has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cagle.com/news/Muhammad/&quot;&gt;collected cartoons about the cartoon controversy&lt;/a&gt;. And, as the Iranian Holocaust cartoon contest &lt;a href=&quot;http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2006/02/14/1442128-ap.html&quot;&gt;starts getting entries&lt;/a&gt;, a group of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dimonacomix.com/&quot;&gt;Israeli comics artists&lt;/a&gt; have launched their own &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boomka.org/&quot;&gt;anti-Semitic cartoon contest&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;em&gt;&quot;We&apos;ll show the world we can do the best, sharpest, most offensive Jew hating cartoons ever published! No Iranian will beat us on our home turf!&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:15:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Clay201</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1209936</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://cagle.com/caglecards/main.asp?image=/news/Muhammad/images/lauzan.gif&quot;&gt;This one&lt;/a&gt; is my favorite. Universally offensive.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:24:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blahblahblah</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1209942</link>	
		<description>I personally thought &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cagle.com/news/Muhammad/images4/payne.gif&quot;&gt;this one &lt;/a&gt;was great, by the way.  And I also liked the prize offered by the Israeli contest (at the bottom of the announcement).</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:33:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spock</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1209954</link>	
		<description>It would be ironic if this whole episode ends up making politically incorrect humor politically correct again.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:41:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sonofsamiam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1209955</link>	
		<description>&quot;Muhammed descending a staircase&quot; is great, like a Sergio Aragones strip.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cagle.com/working/060206/olle.jpg&quot;&gt;
Most of these, though...&lt;/a&gt; c&apos;mon. You get paid for this? How long did you spend writing this thing?!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:42:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: furiousthought</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1209957</link>	
		<description>Yeah, the Mickey Mouse w/bombs one was the best out of a... really kinda phoned-in lot, huh?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://vito-excalibur.livejournal.com/84118.html&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is about the best cartoon I&apos;ve seen on the subject.

&lt;small&gt;Man, that one sonofsamiam linked to is practically a parody of the whole enterprise!  That&apos;s so great.  I mean, how useless are those labels?  The dialogue?  Wow.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:46:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vaska</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1209968</link>	
		<description>I thought &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cagle.com/news/Muhammad/images2/heller6.gif&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; was the funniest and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cagle.com/news/Muhammad/images3/davies.gif&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; the most insightful of the lot.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:55:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sien</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210092</link>	
		<description>That is Israeli contest is freaking awesome. 

Those guys deserve so much credit. Good on them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:50:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210137</link>	
		<description>Meanwhile, asshats in Western Canada (the Albertan part, of course) are all about re-publishing the same old cartoons that started this craziness because, you know, &lt;i&gt;that&apos;ll show &apos;em.&lt;/i&gt;

Sigh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:22:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210169</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2002/492/492p22c.htm&quot;&gt;Old&lt;/a&gt; but relevant.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:08:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Miles Long</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210179</link>	
		<description>many of these cartoons do indeed suck. if i see one more inkwell dripping blood, or quill pen facing off against a scimitar... i&apos;ll... uh...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:17:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Miles Long</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210190</link>	
		<description>love. i will love all mankind.

i will most definitely not burn any embassies. none.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:27:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210201</link>	
		<description>That&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/cartoon-hoax-was-personal/2006/02/14/1139890739052.html&quot;&gt;freaky&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:43:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tomplus2</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210218</link>	
		<description>Good post. Thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:12:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sien</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210233</link>	
		<description>tellurian: The whole Leunig thing might be of interest to people here. Maybe worth posting?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:32:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wayside</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210278</link>	
		<description>Muhammad &lt;a href=&quot;null&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1898359&quot;&gt;Everywhere&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 17:40:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NinjaPirate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210638</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.b3ta.com/board/5622772&quot; title=&quot;credit&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.silberfisch.plus.com/post-13937-1139166851.gif&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:41:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vbfg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210639</link>	
		<description>&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.vbfg.net/images/Moses and Jesus.0.jpg&quot;&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:46:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thparkth</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210744</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been involved in the wikipedia discussion on this, which has primarily centered round whether or not to have the images in the wikipedia article.

One notable and repeated occurance is for one of the many polite and civil Muslim editors to say something like:

* &quot;it&apos;s like if a British newspaper printed an offensive cartoon of the Queen. That wouldn&apos;t be allowed, would it? People would be as offended as we are over this&quot;.

or

* &quot;it&apos;s like someone published a cartoon of Jesus being sexually intimate with a farm animal. That would never get printed. The offense would be so huge&quot;.

... or some other variation on the same theme. I think it points to the fundamental cultural difference which is at issue here:

There is NOTHING that Western culture would find offensive on the scale that these cartoons are offensive to Muslims.

That means that we genuinely can&apos;t figure out their reaction; as they genuinely can&apos;t figure out our lack of one.

At the end of the day this is a freedom of speech vs. fear of fundamentalism issue. I wonder how news corporations like CNN will deal with the next major &quot;offensive to christianity&quot; story to come along - which they no doubt will, rightly, publish - in light of their new found &quot;respect for religious belief&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:25:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: delmoi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210793</link>	
		<description>Who is in the lower right hand of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cagle.com/news/Muhammad/images/lauzan.gif&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; image? I also liked &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cagle.com/news/Muhammad/images4/lane.gif&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:05:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dabitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210801</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;There is NOTHING that Western culture would find offensive on the scale that these cartoons are offensive to Muslims.&lt;/i&gt;

Really, because the words: &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1874471.stm&quot;&gt;Saudi Arabia&apos;s religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress&lt;/a&gt;, 15 &lt;i&gt;dead&lt;/i&gt;, are pretty effing offensive to me. way way up there on the offense-o-scale.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:09:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sonofsamiam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1210881</link>	
		<description>Why are we enemies with Wahabists but friends with Salafists?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:54:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sour cream</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1211229</link>	
		<description>So, dabitch, when you heard those words, did you suddenly have an uncontrollable urge to burn someone&apos;s embassy? Or maybe kill someone?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:13:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Amanojaku</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1211407</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Really, because the words: Saudi Arabia&apos;s religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, 15 dead, are pretty effing offensive to me. way way up there on the offense-o-scale.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, because that&apos;s germane how? Or is that just a roundabout way of getting to the inevitable, predictable &quot;Who cares if we offend &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; Muslims because &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; of them do bad things&quot; response all these cartoon threads have generated?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:13:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dabitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/49182/Cartoons-about-Cartoons-about-Cartoons#1216235</link>	
		<description>Gee sour cream, you&apos;re right, burning down embassies and killing people didn&apos;t cross my mind. 

Amanojaku - thparkth stated that &lt;i&gt;
There is NOTHING that Western culture would find offensive on the scale that these cartoons are offensive to Muslims.&lt;/i&gt; and I simply retorted that there is. This does not translate to &lt;i&gt; &quot;Who cares if we offend all Muslims because some of them do bad things&quot;&lt;/i&gt; except in your own head. It &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; translate to &quot;those mutaween are frickin&apos; nuts&quot;, but hey, I guess it depends on who reads it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 06:44:33 -0800</pubDate>
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