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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 4933</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2000 13:46:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 4933</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.setgame.com/&quot;&gt;Here&apos;s a gift for all&lt;/a&gt;. Someone got a deceptively simple card game as a stocking stuffer. Three shapes. Three colors. Three shades. Three different numbers of objects. Put 3 things together that are completely similar or completely different, for all four variables. It&apos;s a card game that instantly sucked several of us in and felt like playing Tetris the first time. Go ahead and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.setgame.com/set/puzzle_frame.htm&quot;&gt;give it a try&lt;/a&gt; (note, I&apos;ve been playing this for a couple hours today and I could only find 4 of the 6 possible sets).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2000 13:26:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mathowie</dc:creator>		<category>game</category>		<category>games</category>		<category>puzzles</category>		<category>cards</category>		<category>matching</category>
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		<title>By: frykitty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36560</link>	
		<description>Oooh...that was &lt;i&gt;fun&lt;/i&gt;.  I&apos;m hooked.  12 minutes.  I want more.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2000 13:46:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: whatnotever</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36561</link>	
		<description>Don&apos;t play against people who are good.  You will hate them forever.  As they gleefully proclaim &quot;Set!&quot; every ten seconds, you will sink deeper and deeper into vile loathing...  You may find a set, every once in a while, but no doubt they will snatch it from under you, as you flail your limbs in a pathetic proetst.

Trust me, I&apos;ve been there.

Just say no.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2000 14:25:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PWA_BadBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36562</link>	
		<description>10 min 39 seconds for my first try :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2000 17:11:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PWA_BadBoy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tamim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36563</link>	
		<description>20 minutes 38 seconds. (Half the time I had no clue, I had not read the rules. And after I did read the rules, I was equally clueless. I think I solved 4 sets with deduction, and 2 just luck.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2000 17:24:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gluechunk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36564</link>	
		<description>14 minutes.  would have been lower but i kept finding sets that i had already found. gotta work on that short-term memory. d&apos;oh. </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2000 17:40:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: palegirl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36567</link>	
		<description>we used to play set in high school and it got so popular and disruptive that people were cutting class to play &amp; they had to ban it.

pretty much the same thing happened at summer camp one year.  this game is awesome.  and it&apos;s also the devil.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2000 18:19:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: starduck</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36568</link>	
		<description>Gets the high score of 79 by spelling &quot;rural&quot; then &quot;we&quot;
hooray for shel</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2000 18:26:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: luke</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36571</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Today&apos;s puzzle completed 4 Minutes &amp; 43 Seconds&lt;/i&gt;

Nyah, nyah!

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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2000 18:29:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tamim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36592</link>	
		<description>10 minutes and 53 seconds (Dec. 26).

Had 4 sets done in 3 minutes and change, but the last two took that long. Is it me, or the is definition of a &quot;set&quot; just too arbitrary?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2000 03:30:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PWA_BadBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36593</link>	
		<description>Tamim, the definition of set is very precisely defined actually.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2000 04:23:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PWA_BadBoy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ceiriog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36601</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Today&apos;s puzzle completed 7 Minutes &amp; 19 Seconds&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/4933#36571&quot;&gt;Luke&lt;/a&gt; must be &lt;b&gt;on&lt;/b&gt; something. 

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2000 06:55:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cCranium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36607</link>	
		<description>oer!  I is smart! &quot;Today&apos;s puzzle completed 3 Minutes &amp; 21 Seconds&quot;

Damn, this is entertaining.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2000 08:01:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: luke</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36626</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;[Today&apos;s puzzle completed 4 Minutes &amp; 53 Seconds]&lt;/i&gt;

I am so smrt! I am smrt! S-M-R-T! </description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2000 09:58:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36651</link>	
		<description>I tied cCranium. I&apos;m getting rusty. (Not trying to brag, it&apos;s just that I&apos;ve been playing this game for years and am the type that shouldn&apos;t play against whatnotever.)

It&apos;s all a matter of getting your brain in the habit of thinking in terms of the right patterns. The more you play, the better you get. Practice, young grasshoppers...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2000 14:36:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: justnobody</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36673</link>	
		<description>[Today&apos;s puzzle completed 8 Minutes &amp; 21 Seconds] 


whoa, I thought I took like a half hour for that! I kept choosing ones that had already been done. This is addictive..</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2000 16:39:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pnevares</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36701</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;CONGRATULATIONS!
Now you may enter the weekly contest...
[Today&apos;s puzzle completed 10 Minutes &amp; 15 Seconds]&lt;/b&gt;

That was fun. :-)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2000 22:01:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mutagen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36703</link>	
		<description>[Today&apos;s puzzle completed 19 Minutes &amp; 12 Seconds] 

Oi
Of course that included figuring it out, explaing it to my wife and smashing my thick head into the monitor for a little  while.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2000 22:14:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cCranium</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36735</link>	
		<description>Well, I obviously got lucky yesterday.  6 minutes and 23 seconds for today&apos;s.  :-)

This is too good of a game.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2000 05:11:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sammy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36737</link>	
		<description>2 mins, 21 seconds for today&apos;s game. I have no idea how that even happened! I usually suck at stuff like that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2000 05:20:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tamim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36790</link>	
		<description>7 minutes 40 seconds (Dec. 27). I am improving. I still can only find 4-5 &quot;sets&quot; by deduction and the last one or two always  seem very &quot;random&quot; to me. 

From the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.setgame.com/set/answers.htm&quot;&gt;answers to the sample game&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.setgame.com/set/rules_set.htm&quot;&gt;rules page&lt;/a&gt; it would appear that only things that are not a &quot;set&quot; is if you have only two of the same color/shade/shape/number in the set of three. All other combinations can be &quot;defined&quot; as a &quot;set.&quot; Maybe I am interpreting the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.setgame.com/set/puzzle_instructions.htm&quot;&gt;instructions&lt;/a&gt; wrong, or maybe I am just 66% smart and logical and 33% irrational idiot.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:02:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pnevares</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36837</link>	
		<description>[Today&apos;s puzzle completed 3 Minutes &amp; 29 Seconds] 
(dec. 27)

i&apos;m getting better too. thanks again, matt :-)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2000 15:14:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: snarkout</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36863</link>	
		<description>Tamim, you&apos;re right, but I think you&apos;re underestimating the number of possible combinations which aren&apos;t sets. There are four traits to a card (color, shape, shade, and number) with three possible values per trait. A set is a set of three cards for which the trio either have all the same value or all three values for each trait. So there are, uhh, 81 cards with 81 * 80 * 79 / 6 possible triples, of which only 256 are valid sets. That&apos;s quite limited.

&lt;I&gt;[Today&apos;s puzzle completed 3 Minutes &amp; 12 Seconds] &lt;/I&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2000 16:40:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: redfoxtail</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36873</link>	
		<description>Thinking about it a bit further, I believe there are actually 1080 (81 * 80 * 1 / 6) possible valid sets, meaning that &quot;good&quot; sets are around 1.25% of possible sets. If you play long enough, you start to get better at picking them out quickly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:02:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dreama</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36896</link>	
		<description>Is my utter inability to master this silly game tied to my glaringly bad results on the &quot;spatial relations&quot; portions of every intelligence/skills assessment I have ever taken?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2000 20:15:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dreama</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Avogadro</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#36947</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;[Today&apos;s puzzle completed 0 Minutes &amp; 49 Seconds]&lt;/i&gt;

Booya!  (must get back to work, must get back to work, must...)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2000 05:38:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DragonBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#37006</link>	
		<description>You can get a similar game for the Palm called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.handango.com/freedownload.shtml?productId=577&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Grouper&lt;/a&gt;.

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:04:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tamim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#37328</link>	
		<description>3 min 12 sec. (dec. 29). I like my progress.

While the time has improved, I  still can only find 5 sets right off the gate, but - always feel the 6th set is somewhat arbitrary.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2000 20:57:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tamim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#37461</link>	
		<description>1 minute 12 seconds (dec. 31).

I am happy. Now I actually can think like the game. No further updates from now on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2000 01:15:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tamim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#254750</link>	
		<description>40 seconds flat. [April 5, 2002.]</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2002 00:13:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gluechunk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#255037</link>	
		<description>You shaved off only 32 seconds in 3 months?  Go for 30 seconds flat!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:49:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Avogadro</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#258623</link>	
		<description>You guys still back here?

Aaaugh! got yesterday&apos;s game in 28 seconds, while I took over a minute, thanks to brain-freeze.  My fiancee and I broke down and bought the card game a couple of weeks ago, and haven&apos;t stopped playing save for food and sleep.  The card game is especially versitile, allowing you to play a lot of different games with one deck; we made up a &quot;concentration&quot; game, but there are others.

(By the way, congrats tamim; I haven&apos;t been able to improve on the aforementioned 49 seconds.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:04:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Avogadro</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tamim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/4933/#259691</link>	
		<description>Avogadro is right. This game is pretty addictive. I stopped cold-turkey after I got my time down to a minute and 12 seconds in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/4933#37461&quot;&gt;December 31, 2000&lt;/a&gt;. Only recently I went back to playing it again. So gluechunk, I guess it took me a year and three months to shave 32 seconds off my time.

I don&apos;t think I can better that 40 seconds mark though. I finished today&apos;s in only 47 seconds. That&apos;s seven seconds slower than my best time. [April 13, 2002.]</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2002 18:20:32 -0800</pubDate>
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