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Don't disrespect Scientology

Tablecrumbs — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:07:27 -0800

Isaac Hayes Quits 'South Park' Forgive the link to Fox News, however it is an AP story.

By: Witty

Witty — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:11:30 -0800

I'm trying to quit smoking cigarettes... again.

By: krinklyfig

krinklyfig — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:12:39 -0800

I was sorta wondering when this was going to happen ...

By: obeygiant

obeygiant — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:14:27 -0800

I liked Matt and Trey's responses.

By: inthe80s

inthe80s — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:14:53 -0800

co-creator Matt Stone responded sharply in an interview with The Associated Press Monday, saying, "This is 100 percent having to do with his faith of Scientology... He has no problem — and he's cashed plenty of checks — with our show making fun of Christians." and that sums it up very nicely. supposedly Comedy Central was pressured into never showing this episode again too. I guess the South Park guys still have the ability to cause controversy from time to time.

By: mr_crash_davis

mr_crash_davis — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:15:06 -0800

"I'm trying to quit smoking cigarettes... again." What are you smoking instead?

By: delmoi

delmoi — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:15:34 -0800

"South Park" co-creator Matt Stone responded sharply in an interview with The Associated Press Monday, saying, "This is 100 percent having to do with his faith of Scientology... He has no problem — and he's cashed plenty of checks — with our show making fun of Christians." You know, I personally don't think that Hayes really wanted to do this, the "church" probably threatened him with 'excommunication' if he didn't quit the show and shun Matt and Tray. That's the sort of thing they do.

By: davelog

davelog — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:15:37 -0800

I had noticed Chef's absence for a few weeks prior to and after the scientology episode, and figured Matt and Trey had finally pissed him off enough. Their point on Hayes wanting special treatment for his own religion after cashing many a check on the backs of the others they've mocked is absolutely valid, and makes Hayes look petty and two-faced. Gnite, Chef.

By: Witty

Witty — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:18:10 -0800

What are you smoking instead? Life with a capital L, man. Life.

By: psmealey

psmealey — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:22:30 -0800

Sort of disappointing news for what is still, to me, the smartest and funniest show on televsion. But I think it'll be an absence that will be overcome. And Matt and Trey kick ass for going right after his hypocrisy.

By: lodurr

lodurr — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:23:56 -0800

... 'excommunication' ... I don't think they use that term, and anyway, if that wree all there were to it, it wouldn't be so bad. More likely they started with blackmail (the "security auditing" process basically entails you confessing, in great detail, every time you've done anything morally or legally questionable), and then moved on to more sinister threats. One of those would be the hint that he might be designated a "suppressive person", which basically means that he's "Fair Game" for any dirty tricks they can think of. Co$, they play hardball. They can be resisted, and people have been having better luck with it in recent years; but if you're inside the fold, you've already given them all the ammunition they need to hurt you really badly.

By: wakko

wakko — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:24:24 -0800

The bottom line is that Isaac Hayes is a Scientologist. His cries of religious discrimination are therefore completely invalid. I honestly thought he was smarter than that. A Scientologist, Isaac? What the fuck?

By: Optamystic

Optamystic — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:24:35 -0800

Well, you know how it is, he's probably got a pretty full schedule what with all of the chart-topping music he's been producing lately. Not to mention the hit films he's been appearing in. What? Chef was his first paying gig since 1971? Shut yo mouth! Hey Issac, when you get to Obscurity, be sure to say "Hi" to David Caruso and Shelley Long for me.

By: krinklyfig

krinklyfig — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:26:27 -0800

inthe80s writes "I guess the South Park guys still have the ability to cause controversy from time to time." Like George Carlin said, it's not hard to piss people off who take themselves too seriously. These guys made taking yourself too seriously into a religion.

By: jefgodesky

jefgodesky — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:27:00 -0800

Life with a capital L, man. Life. Is that what the kids call it these days?

By: Balisong

Balisong — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:28:49 -0800

What are you smoking instead? Life with a capital L, man. Life. posted by Witty Scrambles to photoshop "Mikey" with Chex-Mix dreads rolling a splif of cereal.

By: MrMoonPie

MrMoonPie — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:29:44 -0800

Optamystic, you forgot Ninth Street, a bad, bad movie, to be sure.

By: Tablecrumbs

Tablecrumbs — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:30:18 -0800

David Caruso is on CSI Miami and wears really cool sunglasses and takes them off and puts them back again for no particular reason.

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:34:36 -0800

Oh, he has his reasons.

By: tommorris

tommorris — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:37:32 -0800

Chef: one of the few witty, sceptical and reality-based adult characters on South Park. The sort of person who would never buy in to something so ridiculous as Scientology. Funny how actors can diverge so much from their characters.

By: Pollomacho

Pollomacho — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:37:47 -0800

Not to mention the hit films he's been appearing in. Hustle and Flow?

By: psmealey

psmealey — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:38:11 -0800

Is Scientology different for rich/famous people than it is for ordinary shmoes? Just seems like the people I have seen around town shilling for it are about a half-step above the jesus freaks that hang out at the Bus Station. Just curious how such people, the seemed cool otherwise, like Jason Lee and Beck got turned onto this thing. Do they get free drinks and girls at their level?

By: Pollomacho

Pollomacho — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:43:52 -0800

Is Scientology different for rich/famous people than it is for ordinary shmoes? Yes.

By: Pollomacho

Pollomacho — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:45:10 -0800

Link.

By: DenOfSizer

DenOfSizer — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:45:50 -0800

Can't everyone and his little 4th grade sister do a decent Chef imitation now? I mean, I know he's Isaac Hayes and all, but how hard it is to say "Aw, fudge it, chillrun."

By: Otis

Otis — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:45:50 -0800

Funny how it didn't seem to bother him all that much when he was interviewed by the Onion AV Club back in January: AVC: They did just do an episode that made fun of your religion, Scientology. Did that bother you? IH: Well, I talked to Matt and Trey about that. They didn't let me know until it was done. I said, "Guys, you have it all wrong. We're not like that. I know that's your thing, but get your information correct, because somebody might believe that shit, you know?" But I understand what they're doing. I told them to take a couple of Scientology courses, and understand what we do. [Laughs.] And here's an interesting tidbit. One of the "Scientology Services" Hayes completed was called "Student Hat." Hmmmm? The Truth is Out There.

By: tommorris

tommorris — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:45:52 -0800

See Scientology Celebrity Centres. And some dissenting opinions.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:46:50 -0800

Beck's parents were Scientologists, as were Juliet Lewis'

By: fungible

fungible — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:50:41 -0800

Can't everyone and his little 4th grade sister do a decent Chef imitation now? Sir, I have tasted his chocolate salty balls, and you sir, do not have his chocolate salty balls.

By: Otis

Otis — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:52:18 -0800

Also, South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone avoided poking fun at Scientology for years because they didn't want to upset show regular Isaac Hayes. But, after hearing how comedy illusionist pal Penn Jillette was banned from poking fun at the controversial religion on his cable show Bulls**t, Stone and Parker decided it was time to point their comedy fingers at Scientology and it's most famous convert.

By: krix

krix — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:01:37 -0800

All they need to do is to have Chef hit in the balls right before every line, and they can have Wanda Sykes voice it.

By: kendrak

kendrak — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:05:04 -0800

you all realize that the scientologists are going to shut the site down now, right? they are that paranoid.

By: ROU_Xenophobe

ROU_Xenophobe — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:05:15 -0800

I had noticed Chef's absence Why would they have Chef be absent, or go away? Were I them, I'd just replace Hayes with someone else and turn Chef into a big whimpering pussy. Perhaps I'd even create an episode in which Chef throws a big hissy-fit over, say, some new Lothario nailing his mom. And from then on, all he'll ever do is bitch and moan about how nasty everyone is to him and then run off in a huff. Quitting over it, fine. But publicly saying that's why you're quitting the show? Man, that's just dumb. That's pulling the pin on your own grenade.

By: clockworkjoe

clockworkjoe — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:05:30 -0800

How much you want to bet Chef's going to die in an upcoming episode?

By: elr

elr — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:07:51 -0800

He'll never live up to his Black Moses days again, but I've always enjoyed Isaac Hayes. He was a bright point in a lot of shitty movies. I thought the best thing about South Park was that Chef would sing in each episode. Those songs were insanely catchy. There was maybe a year of highschool where I couldn't get "Chocolate Salty Balls" stuck in my head. Still, they haven't been writing songs for him for a few seasons now and the character's pretty much a waste.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:09:35 -0800

I would imagine they could just find someone else to voice Chief.

By: gurple

gurple — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:09:55 -0800

I didn't know this about Isaac Hayes. I hope this doesn't ruin my appreciation of old South Park episodes. Sometimes you can know too much.

By: PinkStainlessTail

PinkStainlessTail — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:11:46 -0800

Beck's parents were Scientologists, as were Juliet Lewis' You remind me to ask again: is there definitive proof anywhere that Neil Gaiman's dad is big in the London Scientology org? There's a David Gaiman there, who people claim is Neil's father, but I've never seen a verified source for it.

By: PinkStainlessTail

PinkStainlessTail — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:13:08 -0800

I would imagine they could just find someone else to voice Chief. You know who would be awesome? Bootsy Collins would be awesome, that's who.

By: PontifexPrimus

PontifexPrimus — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:14:57 -0800

psmealey: "Is Scientology different for rich/famous people than it is for ordinary shmoes?" Well, one of the ideas behind Scientology seems to be that you can awaken hidden powers and cleanse your spiritual self by taking very expensive courses; doing so, you ascend in the hierarchy and gain access to deeper, secret teachings. So, yeah, depending on how much you're willing to pay you can get more spiritual fulfilment and peace of mind. It is explained very well on the Operation Clambake website:

Further, as one progresses through a series of auditing "levels," one can eventually be restored to native state and can attain the status of "operating thetan," wherein one is free of attachments to the body and, even while "exterior" to (outside) the body, one can consciously control matter, energy, space, time, thought, and life. Hubbard's writings and lectures include many tantalizing details of the god-like abilities that may be gained through auditing. For most individual Scientologists, recovering these god-like abilities (and encouraging and assisting others to do so as well) is the primary goal of participation in Scientology. The "levels" through which a participant progresses make up what is called "The Bridge to Total Freedom." Progress through all the levels of the "Bridge" often takes many years of dedicated study and practice, and the cost in fees for services for the Bridge is currently estimated at approximately $300,000 - $500,000 in US dollars.

Just skimming through the "What Scientology Won't Tell You - an info pack" section is very informative and can give you insight as to how to interact with members, and why you should stay the hell away from thos organization.

By: HTuttle

HTuttle — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:18:27 -0800

Forgive the link to Fox News Only if you appologize for the link to MetaFilter you biased jackass.

By: Shfishp

Shfishp — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:18:54 -0800

They should get Gilbert Gottfried to do the voice as a slap to Isaac's face.

By: Balisong

Balisong — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:22:55 -0800

He should have just stated that he wanted to spend more quality time with his family. Aren't those the codewords for being publicly humiliated over something?

By: Tablecrumbs

Tablecrumbs — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:23:33 -0800

Only if you appologize for the link to MetaFilter you biased jackass. ?????

By: skallas

skallas — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:31:47 -0800

>Just curious how such people, the seemed cool otherwise, like Jason Lee and Beck got turned onto this thing. Err, its a religion. Last I checked religion appealed to people for a variety of reasons. No big conspiracy here. The assumption that the reasons must be different from those of Christians or Muslims or whomever is silly.

By: dreamsign

dreamsign — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:43:42 -0800

I was going to post this this morning but didn't want to Fark up the place. Having been done, though, more Matt and Trey from the CBC article on the same: "In 10 years and over 150 episodes of South Park, Isaac never had a problem with the show making fun of Christians, Muslims, Mormons or Jews," Stone said in a statement issued late Monday by the Comedy Central TV network. "He got a sudden case of religious sensitivity when it was his religion featured on the show," Stone said, adding however that "of course we will release Isaac from his contract, and we wish him well."

By: dreamsign

dreamsign — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:45:45 -0800

And of course it's a religion. Last time I researched this, the only Western nation that had substantive qualifications on this was Australia, and their use of "belief in a deity" excludes many mainstream religions such as Buddhism. Face it. You believe in little green men, you're crazy. You believe in little green men creating the universe, you're religious. There is no line.

By: Ber

Ber — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:47:40 -0800

Gilbert Gottfried? A good suggestion, the total inverse of Hayes' voice. But I'd try and get William H. Macy to do it in his Jerry Lundegaard voice.

By: MrMoonPie

MrMoonPie — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:47:53 -0800

Oh, man, Tablecrumbs, you'd better hope HTuttle doesn't see those question marks. Dude freaks when he sees those.

By: ROU_Xenophobe

ROU_Xenophobe — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:49:24 -0800

Just curious how such people, the seemed cool otherwise, like Jason Lee and Beck got turned onto this thing My theory about why celebrities become scientologists, which belongs to me and I own it and it is mine, is that at least some celebrities understand that basically, they've won a lottery. There are 100 people just as talented as they are, or more so, who never get the random bits of luck to make it big. Now, that's got to be a depressing and terrifying thought, that all your success was just a roll of the dice. But if a nice organization will tell you that, no, it was really you and your inner thetans that did it, and that you deserve it, that might help. It might help even more if you could go through processes that would "scientifically" prove that you really were kick-ass and deserved all that good stuff and didn't have to worry about your luck changing tomorrow. Even more so if these processes felt at least a little bit arduous.

By: dgaicun

dgaicun — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:52:37 -0800

Let's hope The Simpsons writers stay in their place, or they could lose Bart. (hmm, or maybe the Simpsons is due for an implosion?)

By: washburn

washburn — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:54:16 -0800

[R]eligion appeal[s] to people for a variety of reasons. No big conspiracy here. The assumption that the reasons must be different from those of Christians or Muslims or whomever is silly. Of course assuming that Scientology and other religions all share the same appeal would also be silly.

By: emelenjr

emelenjr — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:58:42 -0800

What's the matter. Chef, got some sand in your vagina?

By: tommorris

tommorris — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:59:47 -0800

dreamsign: Certain government departments and governmental bodies do try and define religion. The Charities Commission here in the UK declined charitable status to the Church of Scientology [PDF, legalese] claiming that it was (a) not a religion and (b) failed the public interest test (basically, that there is no benefit to the public in the spread of the beliefs espoused by the Church of Scientology).

By: nebulawindphone

nebulawindphone — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:02:54 -0800

I just hope that Chef's impending death will be as tastefully handled as Mr. Hooper's.

By: sonofsamiam

sonofsamiam — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:05:07 -0800

they could lose Bart. Out of all the institutions the Simpsons have knocked, how many Scientology jokes have there been? Few, I bet.

By: filmgeek

filmgeek — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:08:56 -0800

Travolta and Cruise were absolutely lambased in the episode..along with scientology. Cruise has been a PR disaster in the last year or two. How hard is it to see Cruise/travolta putting pressure on Hayes or his agent?

By: joegester

joegester — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:09:14 -0800

The thing that differentiates Scientology from more mainstream religions is the economic motivation behind it. Scientology is a payment based service. You pay X dollars and get Y amount of auditing or whatever. That's not true of any other religion. Sure many Protestants tithe but if you didn't tithe you wouldn't be allowed to go to church less often or have less access to the clergy. The Pope may live a fairly posh lifestyle but I don't think anyone becomes Pope for the perks. The high level Scientologists make fortunes off of the CoS. That's how it's not a religion, the personal economic gain it's leaders receive.

By: sonofsamiam

sonofsamiam — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:12:25 -0800

If you can't afford the Scientology, you can always sell yourself into indentured servitude (Sea Org), it's just a billion-year contract. Because, you see we come back.

By: gurple

gurple — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:17:09 -0800

That's how it's not a religion, the personal economic gain it's leaders receive. I'm no comparative religion expert, but I'd be surprised if there were a religion, major or minor, whose leaders didn't gain economically from being part of the leadership. Persecuted founders like Jesus & Joseph Smith don't count. Anyway, it's a pretty convoluted definition of "religion" that stipulates that money can't change hands in certain ways but it can in others. Face it, Scientology's a religion by most definitions. It's just one that most people think particularly sucks.

By: Vervain

Vervain — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:23:58 -0800

Bootsy Collins would be awesome, that's who. Marry me. Ahem. That is, Bootsy would fucking rock. Or George Clinton, y'all....uncut funk. Da bomb. Don't get me wrong, I love me some vintage Isaac Hayes (Hot Buttered Soul = desert island album), but who says South Park couldn't use some stereophonic funk-producing, disco-inducing, twin magnetic rump receptors. They're perfect for bumpin', you see.

By: Pollomacho

Pollomacho — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:27:51 -0800

That's not true of any other religion. Oh, ever heard of indulgences?

By: amberglow

amberglow — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:35:41 -0800

I'd be surprised if there were a religion, major or minor, whose leaders didn't gain economically from being part of the leadership. Ours--we don't have any official leaders of Judaism (in the US at least--i know the UK has some kind of chief rabbi or something), and rabbis really don't make a ton of money at all. There are affiliation organizations above synagogues (Union for Reform Judaism, etc), but they only get a slice of money from each congregation that belongs, and there aren't enough of us to make it a lot of money. The real money is in property i think--the Catholic Church owns incredibly valuable prime real estate all over the world.

By: RufusW

RufusW — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:39:57 -0800

The show. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/03/14/watch-the-scientology-epi_n_17269.html How true is the "this is what they actually believe" bit?

By: dpx.mfx

dpx.mfx — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:40:18 -0800

Oh my. If I could have lived my entire life without visiting that ugly-ass website, and now Scientology and Chef have ruined it. I'm glad they're letting him out of his contract; South Park won't be the same with out him (the Kathie Lee episode is still my favorite); yadda yadda.... but the "foxlife" website looks like a 1997 Geocities knock off. Oww.

By: maryh

maryh — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:41:55 -0800

Why not take Chef in a whole new direction and give Prince the gig?

By: nervestaple

nervestaple — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:57:12 -0800

crab people crab people taste like crab talk like people

By: Mayor Curley

Mayor Curley — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:24:46 -0800

How true is the "this is what they actually believe" bit? The animation is artistic interpretation. The verbal description is dead-on and taken directly from the writings L. Ron Hubbard.

By: JHarris

JHarris — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:25:21 -0800

Only if you appologize for the link to MetaFilter you biased jackass. How ironic is it that this response comes in a thread about Issac Hayes' response to South Park ridiculing Scientology. HTuttle, you are lame.

By: lodurr

lodurr — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:28:15 -0800

Yeh, I had a bit of a "WTF?" moment reading HTuttle's comment. He seems to have forgotten all the times people have gotten called out for one-link NYT, Newsweek and WaPo posts.

By: papakwanz

papakwanz — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:28:26 -0800

Damn you nebulawindphone. That Mr. Hooper link brought back some very sad childhood memories. I think I'm going to cry now.

By: Yer-Ol-Pal

Yer-Ol-Pal — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:31:17 -0800

You beat me to it Vervain. George Clinton would absolutly kick ass! Make my funk the p-funk chillrun!

By: Otis

Otis — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:36:15 -0800

they could lose Bart. Out of all the institutions the Simpsons have knocked, how many Scientology jokes have there been? Few, I bet. posted by sonofsamiam at 1:05 PM EST on March 14 [!] Well, The Joy of Sect had some pretty obvious barbs, but nothing direct.

By: RobotHero

RobotHero — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:41:53 -0800

maryh- Prince would only stick around until they made fun of Jehova's Witnesses, and really, how long could they go without that?

By: Jatayu das

Jatayu das — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:45:58 -0800

Issac Hayes can dish it out, but he can't take it. What a punk.

By: dash_slot-

dash_slot- — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:16:32 -0800

Forgive the link to Fox News Only if you appologize for the link to MetaFilter you biased jackass. posted by HTuttle at 5:18 PM GMT on March 14 Uh, I thought it was meself

By: shmegegge

shmegegge — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:20:13 -0800

tablecrumbs owes me a new keyboard.

By: Ynoxas

Ynoxas — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:22:20 -0800

Funny how easily long-won respect can evaporate so quickly.

By: klangklangston

klangklangston — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:31:37 -0800

"Sort of disappointing news for what is still, to me, the smartest and funniest show on televsion." Hasn't been either for a long time, if ever. Boy, that Paris Hilton thing sure was incisive. She's a big ol' slut, isn't she?

By: sonofsamiam

sonofsamiam — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:38:23 -0800

now that you mention it, she does sort of present herself as "loose"... huh. I'm going to have to think about this.

By: Smedleyman

Smedleyman — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:42:50 -0800

So he's a dick then?

By: [expletive deleted]

[expletive deleted] — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:30:26 -0800

As far as I am concerned, the main reason (not that there are any shortage of others) that Scientology should not be protected like other religions is that it enforces intellectual property rights on its scripture and ritruals. If your organization is truly interested in the welfare of humanity through divine or supernatural revelation, then there is no legitimate reason to jealously guard your scripture and rituals and charge exorbitant sums for it. If your organization is, on the other hand, a scam designed to rob people blind, this policy makes perfect sense.

By: [expletive deleted]

[expletive deleted] — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:31:21 -0800

Hmm, proofreading prior to posting would have been a good idea.

By: mrgrimm

mrgrimm — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:43:57 -0800

Out of all the institutions the Simpsons have knocked, how many Scientology jokes have there been? Otis beat me to it, but I think there have been more than a few. None so blatantly obvious as South Park, but that's a different schtick. Boy, that Paris Hilton thing sure was incisive. She's a big ol' slut, isn't she? Yeah, I'd say that the whole Chef brouhaha was a planned publicity stunt. They need it. He hasn't been on the show in forever, I don't think.

By: nola

nola — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:15:18 -0800

"Sort of disappointing news for what is still, to me, the smartest and funniest show on television." Hasn't been either for a long time, if ever. Boy, that Paris Hilton thing sure was incisive. She's a big ol' slut, isn't she? posted by klangklangston yeah i'm with klang on that. i enjoyed the show for a while , but lately , and i mean for the last 5 years, it seems to be on again, of again. i think there for a whole season they lost me completely. i'm guessing all the drugs and hookers may have gotten in the way of creativity for a time. meh.

By: nola

nola — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:16:06 -0800

off* again. meh.

By: nola

nola — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:23:00 -0800

also , reading Pollomacho's link (which mentioned faust) reminded me of Jan Svankmajer's faust. has anyone else seen and enjoyed this strange film. my mind works in weird ways. thanks to Pollomacho's link on scientology, i remembered this film and have since added it to my netflix queue.

By: nola

nola — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:27:01 -0800

here is a better link. sorry i'll "get my own blog" real soon i promise.

By: PinkStainlessTail

PinkStainlessTail — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:16:11 -0800

has anyone else seen and enjoyed this strange film. It's my second favorite Svankmajer film, after the short "A Quiet Week in the House". Alice, conspirators of Pleasure, and just about all of his short films are quite good and strange too.

By: moonbird

moonbird — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:42:57 -0800

i'm with you, pst. faust is one of my all-time favs. alice is also priceless.

By: R. Mutt

R. Mutt — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:24:52 -0800

Gilbert Gottfried already has a cartoon voiceover gig, and its on PBS! He plays "Digit" on Cyberchase. (Yes, its a kids show ... get your mind out of the gutter, son)

By: Joseph Gurl

Joseph Gurl — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:43:17 -0800

Probably made that episode specifically to get him to walk. The chef schtick was tired & they needed some pub.

By: boaz

boaz — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:06:32 -0800

You mean people get more offended when you make fun of their religion than other peoples' religions? Thank you, Mr. Stone, I never would've realized that without your help. In other news, ~~people~~ hypocritical bastards care more when their house burns down than when other peoples' houses burn down. I actually downloaded the Scientology episode after it got menitioned on Metafilter, and, other than the 'This is what scientologists actually believe' section (which was hilarious), it was pretty uniformly stupid and unfunny. Which says to me that L. Ron Hubbard could write better comedy by accident than Stone & Parker can on purpose nowadays. That can't be a good sign.

By: mediareport

mediareport — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:33:18 -0800

Apologizing for a FoxNews link is stupid (better to apologize for posting nothing but a link to a five-paragraph AP story). For some reason, the FoxNews version cuts off before a slightly sharper quote from Stone and a creepy bit from Hayes, which show up at the end of the story elsewhere: Stone told The AP he and co-creator Trey Parker "never heard a peep out of Isaac in any way until we did Scientology. He wants a different standard for religions other than his own, and to me, that is where intolerance and bigotry begin." Isaac Hayes on Scientology Scientology is the gateway to eternity. It is the path to happiness and total spiritual freedom. Until one has experienced the technology of Scientology it's unlikely that one will ever experience these wonderful discoveries. I know because it has worked for me. The more time and effort I invest, the more I receive. I highly recommend it. Yeah, whatever. This article says Isaac became active in CO$ in 1995, which is a huge relief. I'd have hated knowing he'd been brainwashed at the time of Truck Turner, the best, most fun blaxploitation film, period. Lt. Uhura as a foul-mouthed female whore, a pimp funeral with hilariously dressed dudes sprinkling cocaine over the coffin, Turner's cat peeing on his clothes, and Yaphet Kotto in one of the most satisfying villain death scenes I've ever seen. Isaac's really good in it, too.

By: kindall

kindall — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 21:11:52 -0800

I vote that they keep the character of Chef, get someone to do the voice who doesn't sound soulful or black or even, perhaps, male, such that the character's voice merely suddenly changes between one episode and the next. Either that or they just have a different voice actor play Chef each episode as a guest part. No other character remarks upon Chef's voice changes or even notices, except for, perhaps, Kenny, or Timmy, or someone.

By: maryh

maryh — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 21:45:24 -0800

Great idea, kindall. Scratch Prince-- How about Ute Lemper?

By: Moody834

Moody834 — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:06:17 -0800

Oh my God! Scientology killed Chef! You bastards!

By: sjvilla79

sjvilla79 — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:04:56 -0800

I really think they should do a final episode for Chef. In it, for example, they could have his balls cut off or something (I'm thinking via an STD from Mrs Cartman). At least that way they could explain the dramatic difference in his voice (e.g. a new person doing his character). Gee, they could just keep the joke going for ages. But of course I'm betting they've thought of this already. Bastards! Oh and Isaac is a tool.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:19:23 -0800

"So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun! Termporarioly anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!" -- South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone, responding to Viacom/Comedy Central's bowing to Scientology/Tom Cruise pressure to not re-show "Trapped in the Closet" episode [ripped from the Doonesbury site today]

By: sjvilla79

sjvilla79 — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:25:42 -0800

FFF, it aired in Australia just a few weeks ago.

By: five fresh fish

five fresh fish — Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:29:18 -0800

And you can rip it from torrents, too. I thought it was a very funny episode, if only because they were so ... vulgar in their attacks on Scienos. Which, to be fair, is fair: CoS is a vulgar organization.

By: sjvilla79

sjvilla79 — Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:03:00 -0800

I don't think I know enough about what they do to fairly comment either way (but I can still pay out on Chef). In fact I really don't want to know. Bottom line, however, is that the SP episode was absolutely hilarious. Yeah, with that I concur.

By: crunchland

crunchland — Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:31:16 -0800

oh. woops. posted to the wrong thread maybe...