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	<title>Comments on: In your dreams</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:32:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>In your dreams</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.chrisdonovan.com"&gt;If Eadward Muybridge and Rene Magritte had had a child togther...&lt;/a&gt; it would have been Christopher Lee Donovan.  Very trippy digital photography filtered through a 19 century sensibility. NSFW [surreal female nudity]
Requires Flash.
via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spartandog.com/&quot;&gt;SpartanDog&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:16:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>hwestiii</dc:creator>		<category>art</category>		<category>photography</category>
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		<title>By: nebulawindphone</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1245814</link>	
		<description>Requires Flash &lt;i&gt;Eight&lt;/i&gt; no less.  I didn&apos;t realize I was obsolete.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:32:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mkhall</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1245844</link>	
		<description>The work reminds me a bit of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mckean-art.co.uk/&quot;&gt;Dave McKean&lt;/a&gt;, but a little more old fashioned (as mentioned). I like them quite a bit, and suspect I&apos;ll be ordering a print or two. I do wish that Flash wasn&apos;t required to see the galleries, though, and that the music was off by default.

Thanks for the post!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 21:26:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: symbioid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1245871</link>	
		<description>Waterfall I, with the model Sarah is very neo-Raphaelite... I&apos;m digging it much.

The one with the lady having butterflies coming out of her unstitched chest reminds me of the cover of one of the albums by Download.  Very cool work, thanks for the link...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:05:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: symphonik</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1245885</link>	
		<description>Beautiful art. Awful, horrible web site.

Truly, I understand the need to have your web site (another art medium) be unique, but that should never be at the expense of &lt;i&gt;being able to navigate&lt;/i&gt;.

Thanks for the link, hwestiii... quite surreal.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:48:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: medialyte</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1245892</link>	
		<description>I especially love the navigation &lt;em&gt;diagram&lt;/em&gt;. Forget intuitive interface, this site wants you to &lt;em&gt;study&lt;/em&gt; how to use it.

Nice images, though.

Oops, now the site just froze up on me. Screw it, they&apos;re not that good.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:18:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dgaicun</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1245898</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;of the cover of one of the albums by Download&lt;/i&gt;

In other words this guy is heavily imitating Dave Mckean. Nothing wrong with that, Dave Mckean is the man, but this art is highly derivative IMHO.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:49:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crataegus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1245934</link>	
		<description>Requires &lt;strike&gt;the taint of really buggy software&lt;/strike&gt; Flash 8.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 03:30:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crunchland</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1245948</link>	
		<description>Neo-victorianism, ala &lt;em&gt;The Diamond Age&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 03:52:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Thorzdad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1245964</link>	
		<description>Interesting stuff. Though I did come away thinking someone had figured out how to Photoshop a neat Daguerrotype effect and decided to apply it to everything they did.
And, yeah, the use of Flash is a bit over the top here. Getting to the pics required having two additional windows opening in the browser.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:33:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hwestiii</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1245965</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d never seen David Mckean before reading mkhall and dgaicun&apos;s comments.  I do see a resemblance, but Dave Mckean in turn appears to owe some inspiration to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bradholland.net/beta/portfolios/portfolioPos.html&quot;&gt;Brad Holland&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:39:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nightchrome</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1245988</link>	
		<description>When will &quot;artists&quot; realize that a crappy flash interface does not make their work somehow more artistic?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:28:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crunchland</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1246007</link>	
		<description>Because artists don&apos;t think it&apos;s crappy. Anal retentive engineer/geek/nerds do.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:15:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: funambulist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1246013</link>	
		<description>Hmm interesting effects but... sorry, I can&apos;t stand the pre-raphaelite neo-victorian affectation. It gets on my tits so much. I don&apos;t know, the images just feel &apos;flat&apos; and pointless.

Never heard of McKean or Holland before but just from a quick look their stuff looks much more inventive and forceful to me. I like Holland&apos;s especially.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:23:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1246014</link>	
		<description>If you want me to admire your art, don&apos;t put barriers in the way of my seeing it at all.  &quot;Sorry, sir, but to see the Murgatroyd exhibit, you have to leave the museum, acquire a suit of body armor and a butterfly net, and memorize the top three finishers at Belmont for the last two weeks.&quot;  Thanks, I&apos;ll take a walk in the park instead.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:24:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pracowity</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1246015</link>	
		<description>Is Flash used to discourage people from copying pictures? I ask because I see it so often on sites where the pictures are the high-value content, and because Flash (in my limited experience with it, anyway) always makes it harder to steal the images.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:24:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: illovich</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1246025</link>	
		<description>I think the resemblance between Donovan and McKean is more clear if you consider Donovan against McKean&apos;s more photoshopographic work such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dreamline.nu/theparticletarot/&quot;&gt;The Particle Tarot&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.naylor.net/andrew/mckean/pics/&quot;&gt;Black and White Lies&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.naylor.net/andrew/mckean/OptionClick/&quot;&gt;Option-Click&lt;/a&gt;. 

I actually saw quite a bit in Donovan&apos;s work that I would consider derivative of McKean rather than simply inspired, but still his work is enjoyable.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:34:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: objet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1246045</link>	
		<description>Never completely realized just how &lt;a href=&quot;http://mysite.verizon.net/res0prb3/id8.html&quot;&gt;influential &lt;/a&gt; the works of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin2/index.html&quot;&gt;Joel Peter Witkin&lt;/a&gt; had become, but I firmly suspect that this influence will have become absolutely ubiquitous once &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;all&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; the goths learn CS2.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:58:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jorbs</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1246065</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Because artists don&apos;t think it&apos;s crappy. Anal retentive engineer/geek/nerds do.&lt;/em&gt;

Sorry.  I&apos;m an artist, and I think it&apos;s crappy.  Artist portfolios are almost universally terrible because they feel like they&apos;re allowed to sacrifice usability for looks.  This site is no exception.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:33:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lumpenprole</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1246652</link>	
		<description>Ugh, anybody that launches a pop-up, from a popup which contains a diagram that explains buttons you can barely see needs to be beaten with a mixing spoon. 

The pictures were okay. The heavily altered ones were pretty good. But the later ones in the list were just suicide girl photos. 

And the crappy enya style music really turned me off too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:16:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lumpenprole</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1246654</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Never completely realized just how influential  the works of Joel Peter Witkin had become&lt;/i&gt;

You&apos;re joking right? Spend any time looking through books of current photographic work in a few galleries and you&apos;ll realize he&apos;s one of the most imitated artists out there. Him, and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.starnstudio.com/&quot;&gt;Starn twins&lt;/a&gt;. (their site sucks a little, not my fault)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:19:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smedleyman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1246671</link>	
		<description>&apos;This is not a child&apos;

takes a bit to load, but nifty.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:47:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dgaicun</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1246680</link>	
		<description>Anybody that&apos;s been to the movies or watched any music videos in the last 15 years should be well aware of Witkin&apos;s influence.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:02:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gum</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50062/In-your-dreams#1246825</link>	
		<description>The work of any &quot;artist&quot; so unperceptive of crappiness as to have built or purchased this website cannot possibly be worth  the effort it would have taken to see it here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:07:40 -0800</pubDate>
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