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	<title>Comments on: Apparently there is an uncanny valley in Japan, too.</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:56:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Apparently there is an uncanny valley in Japan, too.</title>
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		<description>The tradition of making &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_traditional_dolls&quot;&gt;Japanese dolls&lt;/a&gt;, called ningyo&#8212;meaning human figure&#8212;goes back as far as 10,000 years to clay figures made during the Jomon period.  The more recent rise in popularity, though, is most often traced to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kyohaku.go.jp/eng/dictio/data/senshoku/&quot;&gt;Hina Matsuri&lt;/a&gt;--Girls&apos; Day, or the Doll Festival, celebrated on March 3--originating during the Edo period.  These &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nihon-kogeikai.com/TEBIKI-E/6.html&quot;&gt;antique&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fieldmuseum.org/research_Collections/anthropology/anthro_sites/boone/dolls/gal_jp_dolls.html&quot;&gt;ningyo&lt;/a&gt; are highly sought after by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jdollcollector.com/&quot;&gt;collectors&lt;/a&gt;, such as the American &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20050627-9999-1c27dolls.html&quot;&gt;expert&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.akanezumiya.com/gal_ningyo.html&quot;&gt;Alan Pate&lt;/a&gt;, who has written a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.akanezumiya.com/gal_publications.html&quot;&gt;number of articles&lt;/a&gt; on the subject.  The modern Japanese doll culture, however, is anything but traditional.  In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the ningyo tradition was exported to make &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/jshoaf/Jdolls/jdollwestern/&quot;&gt;toys for the West&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/49069&quot;&gt;previously featured&lt;/a&gt; on MeFi), and has culminated in popular Barbie-type dolls such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.superdollfie.net/&quot;&gt;Superdollfie&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gigglegeek.dk/bjd.htm&quot;&gt;others&lt;/a&gt;.  Contemporary artists have transformed the Japanese doll tradition into something else entirely: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.simon-yotsuya.net/&quot;&gt;Simon&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kamada.co.jp/simon/simon.html&quot;&gt;Yotsuya&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dollseye.com/cgi-bin/mt/archives/2005/03/scans_astral_do.html&quot;&gt;Ryo Yoshida&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dollseye.com/cgi-bin/mt/archives/2005/02/more_scans_koit.html&quot;&gt;Koitsukihime&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yoko-ueno.com/&quot;&gt;Yoko Ueno&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ewgalerie.com/FOTOGRAFEN/Marioapoupee.html&quot;&gt;Mario&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marioa.com/&quot;&gt;A.&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://dolly.vivian.jp/gsn_doll/&quot;&gt;Etsuko Miura&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://tokachi.com/kai/&quot;&gt;Kai&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://tokachi.com/kai/kaiprofileenglish.htm&quot;&gt;Akemi.&lt;/a&gt;  A number of these artists were featured in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ntv.co.jp/event/kyutai/gallery/index.html&quot;&gt;Dolls of Innocence&lt;/a&gt; exhibit at the Museum of Contemporary Art Tokyo.  Of course, notable artists outside Japan have worked with dolls before, including &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artic.edu/reynolds/essays/taylor.php&quot;&gt;Hans Bellmer&lt;/a&gt;, who inspired much of the artwork in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.midnighteye.com/reviews/innocence.shtml&quot;&gt;Innocence&lt;/a&gt;, the follow-up to Ghost in the Shell.  Explore more: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eyedia.com/gallery/doll/&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dollseye.com/cgi-bin/mt/&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://cipango.typepad.com/cipango/japanese_dolls/index.html&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://pygmalion.mda.or.jp/&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.japattack.com/main/node/140&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;.   &lt;small&gt;[Several links are nsfw.]&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:55:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>monju_bosatsu</dc:creator>		<category>japan</category>		<category>art</category>		<category>history</category>		<category>dolls</category>		<category>surrealism</category>		<category>ningyo</category>		<category>uncannyvalley</category>
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		<title>By: monju_bosatsu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50343/Apparently-there-is-an-uncanny-valley-in-Japan-too#1256326</link>	
		<description>Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://tokachi.com/kai/kaiprofileenglish.htm&quot;&gt;Kai Akemi&apos;s profile&lt;/a&gt;, in particular, for a several galleries of her surrealist doll exhibits.</description>
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		<title>By: shoepal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50343/Apparently-there-is-an-uncanny-valley-in-Japan-too#1256336</link>	
		<description>monju, I almost posted about Hina Matsuri on March 3rd, but got distracted.  Nice post!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:04:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bardic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50343/Apparently-there-is-an-uncanny-valley-in-Japan-too#1256343</link>	
		<description>This is neat.  I especially like the Janis Joplin dolls at the bottom left of [1].  Also reminds me of the multiple times I freaked out playing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fatalframe2.com/fatalFrame2/index.html&quot;&gt;Fatal Frame II&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:08:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50343/Apparently-there-is-an-uncanny-valley-in-Japan-too#1256361</link>	
		<description>Inosensu!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:19:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gamblor</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50343/Apparently-there-is-an-uncanny-valley-in-Japan-too#1256371</link>	
		<description>dai suki dayo!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:26:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: designbot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50343/Apparently-there-is-an-uncanny-valley-in-Japan-too#1256474</link>	
		<description>Just to nitpick, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_Valley&quot;&gt;Uncanny Valley&lt;/a&gt; theory was originally proposed by a Japanese scientist.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:28:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smedleyman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50343/Apparently-there-is-an-uncanny-valley-in-Japan-too#1256552</link>	
		<description>...oh, they&apos;re not sex dolls. 

/joking. Nifty. The semi skeleton with the fleshed out human head from the Yotsuya link creeps me out tho man. Gah!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:15:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Baby_Balrog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50343/Apparently-there-is-an-uncanny-valley-in-Japan-too#1256576</link>	
		<description>Careful, smedleyman.  Dig too deep into some of those links and you find something very close, and very, very not-suitable-for-work.

&lt;small&gt;but very suitable for my secret naked doll collection.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:27:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: birdie birdington</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50343/Apparently-there-is-an-uncanny-valley-in-Japan-too#1256722</link>	
		<description>Oh, yay!  I love ball joint dolls!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.denofangels.com/forums/&quot;&gt;Den of Angels&lt;/a&gt; is the big dollfie forum.

There are also Blythe and &lt;a href=&quot;http://community.livejournal.com/pullips/&quot;&gt;Pullip&lt;/a&gt; dolls.  Both of which have their own lj communities, of course.  There&apos;s also an lj community for &lt;a href=&quot;http://community.livejournal.com/dollys_fetish/&quot;&gt;sexy bjd&lt;/a&gt;.

More doll art: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adjustnet.com/bee/&quot;&gt;1&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hiina/kayuli/gallery/gallery_index.htm&quot;&gt;2&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://dolly.vivian.jp/dollxxxx/yrk/yuriko.html&quot;&gt;3&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage2.nifty.com/digidoll/gallery.html&quot;&gt;4&lt;/a&gt;.

Flickr photos tagged with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/dollfie/&quot;&gt;&apos;dollfie&apos;&lt;/a&gt;,  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/volks/&quot;&gt;&apos;volks&apos;&lt;/a&gt;,  and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/bjd/&quot;&gt;&apos;bjd&apos;&lt;/a&gt;.

Mostly all NSFW.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:10:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Slothrop</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50343/Apparently-there-is-an-uncanny-valley-in-Japan-too#1257048</link>	
		<description>Wow! Those are terrific links and very useful to my Master&apos;s Thesis to boot (I am writing about altered anatomies and also strange bodies in toys). I am really thinking quite a bit about something I&apos;ve read and observed which is that &lt;b&gt;broadly&lt;/b&gt; speaking, Japanese culture and art seems to favor abstraction and stylization much more than other cultures. Perhaps the most basic way to consider this is the effect the kimono has on reshaping the form of the body and also presenting it as a two-dimensional designed plane. Having been born in 1975, I am most familiar with robot culture (Mazinger/Tranzor Z, Transformers, Gatchaman), so these links are all new and exciting to me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:31:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: madamjujujive</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50343/Apparently-there-is-an-uncanny-valley-in-Japan-too#1260643</link>	
		<description>This is a most excellent post, thank you so much, monju_bosatsu. I am glad I didn&apos;t miss this one!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:54:05 -0800</pubDate>
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