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The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration is a division of the US Department of Health and Human Services. For years, a section of the SAMHSA site dealt with the prevention and treatment of substance abuse as it specifically relates to gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered people. It was here. But on 11 January 2006, a Christian fundamentalist group complained about the material, and, sure enough, within two weeks the feds had pulled it off the site.
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"It even had a pop-up quiz to measure homophobia-—-totally unacceptable."
The timing of the deletion and the FRC letter were not related, he said.
Yeah, right.
posted by digaman at 11:36 AM on March 24, 2006
The timing of the deletion and the FRC letter were not related, he said.
Yeah, right.
posted by digaman at 11:36 AM on March 24, 2006
I did about it a3. You're already bored by the subject? Go play in other threads.
posted by digaman at 11:38 AM on March 24, 2006
posted by digaman at 11:38 AM on March 24, 2006
Everyone knows only Christians abuse substances.
Have you seen what those fuckers will do for a little wine and wafer?
posted by orthogonality at 11:38 AM on March 24, 2006
Have you seen what those fuckers will do for a little wine and wafer?
posted by orthogonality at 11:38 AM on March 24, 2006
This is still available. Have there been any changes made-- any at all-- to the pages targeted at other minority groups?
posted by Faint of Butt at 11:38 AM on March 24, 2006
posted by Faint of Butt at 11:38 AM on March 24, 2006
It was my understand that if you just ignore gay people long enough they'll go away. Or become not-gay.
posted by chunking express at 11:38 AM on March 24, 2006
posted by chunking express at 11:38 AM on March 24, 2006
Oh, and searching for "gay" on the SAMHSA site brings up plenty of useful and working links. If this really is an info-scrubbing conspiracy, it's not a very good one.
posted by Faint of Butt at 11:41 AM on March 24, 2006
posted by Faint of Butt at 11:41 AM on March 24, 2006
"It was my understand that if you just ignore gay people long enough they'll go away."
No, homosexuals can be extremely persistent.
posted by Gamblor at 11:44 AM on March 24, 2006
No, homosexuals can be extremely persistent.
posted by Gamblor at 11:44 AM on March 24, 2006
Then again, most of the links off this page are broken. Crap. It probably is a conspiracy after all. Sorry to get anyone's hopes up.
posted by Faint of Butt at 11:46 AM on March 24, 2006
posted by Faint of Butt at 11:46 AM on March 24, 2006
Holy shit, a3matrix is posting from the future!
HAHAHAHA Holy shit is right. I don't know how that happened. I read the date at least 3 times too.
My apologies TJH.
I apparently need to coffee up.
posted by a3matrix at 11:51 AM on March 24, 2006
HAHAHAHA Holy shit is right. I don't know how that happened. I read the date at least 3 times too.
My apologies TJH.
I apparently need to coffee up.
posted by a3matrix at 11:51 AM on March 24, 2006
"I apparently need to coffee up."
How about some meth and hot gay lovin?
posted by 2sheets at 12:06 PM on March 24, 2006
How about some meth and hot gay lovin?
posted by 2sheets at 12:06 PM on March 24, 2006
From this page.
Correct. Studies conducted on laboratory animals and humans have proven that chronic use of MDMA produces long-lasting, perhaps permanent, damage to neurons in the brain. This damage occurs to the neurons that release serotonin in the brain and can cause memory impairment.
Actually I think a lot of those studies were debunked.
Anyway, gay people are not being targeted for government lies. Is that really that big of a problem?
posted by delmoi at 12:09 PM on March 24, 2006
Correct. Studies conducted on laboratory animals and humans have proven that chronic use of MDMA produces long-lasting, perhaps permanent, damage to neurons in the brain. This damage occurs to the neurons that release serotonin in the brain and can cause memory impairment.
Actually I think a lot of those studies were debunked.
Anyway, gay people are not being targeted for government lies. Is that really that big of a problem?
posted by delmoi at 12:09 PM on March 24, 2006
The internet is confusing.
posted by The Jesse Helms at 12:23 PM on March 24, 2006
posted by The Jesse Helms at 12:23 PM on March 24, 2006
delmoi : "Actually I think a lot of those studies were debunked."
Only one study where it was claimed that a single recreational dose of MDMA could induce Parkinson's. The drug, actually administered, was methamphetamine. The issue of whether chronic MDMA use leads to (serotonergic) axonal degeneration is still unresolved, for the most part; because certain proxies indicate so (like SERT levels) but others don't (like GFAP levels).
posted by Gyan at 12:27 PM on March 24, 2006
Only one study where it was claimed that a single recreational dose of MDMA could induce Parkinson's. The drug, actually administered, was methamphetamine. The issue of whether chronic MDMA use leads to (serotonergic) axonal degeneration is still unresolved, for the most part; because certain proxies indicate so (like SERT levels) but others don't (like GFAP levels).
posted by Gyan at 12:27 PM on March 24, 2006
Interesting. I was reading the links for this post and thinking "At least our fundamentalists can't make our government sentence people to death for purely religious reasons. And then I scrolled down to here.
posted by eustacescrubb at 1:17 PM on March 24, 2006
posted by eustacescrubb at 1:17 PM on March 24, 2006
It does strike me as a bit odd that there would need to be a section about drug abuse specifically tailored to homosexuals.
Mind you, now I can't really learn what difference sexual orientation migh have regarding substance addiction, since it's not there any more.
posted by CynicalKnight at 2:34 PM on March 24, 2006
Mind you, now I can't really learn what difference sexual orientation migh have regarding substance addiction, since it's not there any more.
posted by CynicalKnight at 2:34 PM on March 24, 2006
CynicalKnight: It does strike me as a bit odd that there would need to be a section about drug abuse specifically tailored to homosexuals.
First, substance abuse and suicide is epidemic among the gay community.
Second, sexual orientation can be an added complication because a person seeking treatment might have additional needs for confidentiality.
Third, I think in general that education and treatment programs benefit from being targeted to specific cultures and communities.
posted by KirkJobSluder at 3:05 PM on March 24, 2006
First, substance abuse and suicide is epidemic among the gay community.
Second, sexual orientation can be an added complication because a person seeking treatment might have additional needs for confidentiality.
Third, I think in general that education and treatment programs benefit from being targeted to specific cultures and communities.
posted by KirkJobSluder at 3:05 PM on March 24, 2006
"I apparently need to coffee up."
How about some meth and hot gay lovin?
Funniest thing I've read all day.
KirkJobSluder's got it right. But is this a big loss to anyone? How many in the LGBT community even knew of this site's existence until it became a crusade victim?
posted by blendor at 3:29 PM on March 24, 2006
How about some meth and hot gay lovin?
Funniest thing I've read all day.
KirkJobSluder's got it right. But is this a big loss to anyone? How many in the LGBT community even knew of this site's existence until it became a crusade victim?
posted by blendor at 3:29 PM on March 24, 2006
It's a real shame as those SAMHSA manuals can be very informative and helpful. Oh well. Fuck.
posted by moonbird at 5:48 PM on March 24, 2006
posted by moonbird at 5:48 PM on March 24, 2006
CynicalKnight >>> "It does strike me as a bit odd that there would need to be a section about drug abuse specifically tailored to homosexuals.
Treating addiction requires looking at the root causes of the addictive behaviour. In the LGBTABCDEFGOMGWTFBBQ community, the reasons are often going to be slightly different, on balance, than in the heterosexual community.
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 10:28 PM on March 24, 2006
Treating addiction requires looking at the root causes of the addictive behaviour. In the LGBTABCDEFGOMGWTFBBQ community, the reasons are often going to be slightly different, on balance, than in the heterosexual community.
posted by dirtynumbangelboy at 10:28 PM on March 24, 2006
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