TGTTM Creator gets stabbed

March 27, 2006 11:58 AM

Tim Heidecker Gets stabbed (he's ok) Tim Heidecker, of TimandEric.com, co-creator of Tom Goes to the Mayor, (Adult Swim) and pal of Bob Odenkirk was stabbed by a kid on PCP last week. He wrote about the experience and included some neat photos on his blog. I couldn't find the police blotter.
posted by sswiller (35 comments total)

Wow. Just out of curiosity, why would you sell Weed laced with PCP?
posted by delmoi at 12:06 PM on March 27, 2006

Why do angel dust stories always end in stabbings? Or lung eatings?
posted by Astro Zombie at 12:08 PM on March 27, 2006

Thanks for the post, I saw the pictures last night on the Cartoon Network and had no idea who the hell this guy was
posted by matimer at 12:12 PM on March 27, 2006

Wow. Just out of curiosity, why would you sell Weed laced with PCP?

Because people buy it to get really, really high.
posted by Pollomacho at 12:13 PM on March 27, 2006

I didn't know the kids still did PCP. I thought the whole "thinking your incredible hulk and ripping out a toilet from the fittings on the wall" experience as something people tend to avoid in a recreational setting.
posted by geoff. at 12:15 PM on March 27, 2006

It sure would suck to be stabbed by someone on PCP, but TGTTM sucks. Sorry, but if I didn't say it sometime soon I'd explode. And with ATHF doing pseudo-ironic product placement with Boost Mobile, I dunno what's up with Adult Swim these days. Squidbillies is good ...

/derail
posted by krinklyfig at 12:22 PM on March 27, 2006

Now if someone could stab the creator of 12 oz. Mouse.
I keed.
posted by boo_radley at 12:22 PM on March 27, 2006

It sure would suck to be stabbed by someone on PCP, but TGTTM sucks.

I agree. At some point 'ironically crappy' just becomes crappy.
posted by delmoi at 12:24 PM on March 27, 2006

"Wow. Just out of curiosity, why would you sell Weed laced with PCP?
posted by delmoi at 12:06 PM PST on March 27 [!]"

People have been selling PCP laced joints since the 60's at least. It's nothing new. Why would someone do it? Great way to get the kids hooked to your brand of joints. At least that's what I learned from a drug dealer a few years back.
posted by drstein at 12:25 PM on March 27, 2006

Wow. Just out of curiosity, why would you sell Weed laced with PCP?

Because people buy it to get really, really high.

Well, the post made it seem like he got PCP by accident or something.

I do know someone who took PCP once and his roomate said he was acting totally nuts, nothing violent though.
posted by delmoi at 12:27 PM on March 27, 2006

adult swim has been complete shit for almost a year now. when they started running that john k. yogi bear cartoon -- the same one -- every week for 2 months in a row, i kind of figured everyone knew adult swim had turned to shit.

tom goes to the mayor was one of the better AS shows of the past couple years, but it's been in reruns since the first few episodes -- pretty much like every other adult swim show.

hey, they're rerunning "the oblongs" yet again! i wonder if they just think all the potheads don't notice this...
posted by StrasbourgSecaucus at 12:28 PM on March 27, 2006

I thought PCP-induced violent freak-outs were a myth created by law-enforcement?
posted by soiled cowboy at 12:29 PM on March 27, 2006

'Laced with PHP' stories usually sound pretty unlikely. It's a bit like 'lacing' a bottle of screwtop wine with Cristal Champagne to get people hooked on the quality.
posted by Adam_S at 12:42 PM on March 27, 2006

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posted by russilwvong at 12:43 PM on March 27, 2006

'Laced with PHP' stories usually sound pretty unlikely. It's a bit like 'lacing' a bottle of screwtop wine with Cristal Champagne to get people hooked on the quality.

Dude, whatever. You can dip a cigarette in PCP if you want to get really fucked up. And yes, it is actually pretty common for people to smoke weed laced with opium, cocaine, or even PCP.

The thing is, while PCP will make you trip, combining it with other drugs leads to even more unpredictable results... just as the effect of weed is amplified/changed if you are drinking alcohol as well. I am not at all surprised that the kid went crazy; hopefully he has not done any severe permanent damage to his brain and can effectively rehab. Fortunately for him he didn't kill anyone.

I think in the case of Tim, tho, outrunning a lanky guy on PCP just goes to show how amazing adrenaline is all by itself.
posted by tweak at 12:47 PM on March 27, 2006

I once unknowingly smoked a joint w/PCP when I was a teen. All I remember from the experience is standing in line for a movie (Tron?) with two gay guys behind me telling me I needed a 'lude to "calm down".

Blackout til the next morning and I wake up in my bed at least 30 miles from the movie theater of my last recollection. Since parentals didn't mention anything to me, I must have, to all appearances, appeared functionally sober.

Also? How cool is that? A gay bar named Ackbar? Love it. Want to open up a straight bar named Jeff, with a all-flavors-accepted one in the middle called "Fez".
posted by WolfDaddy at 12:56 PM on March 27, 2006

When I'm running out of material to blog about, I'll discount the idea of getting a guy on PCP to chase me with a knife.

Maked for good reading though.
posted by pmbuko at 12:57 PM on March 27, 2006

I'm not denying that people do it, I'm just doubting the stories I hear frequently that dealers deviously lace their products with more expensive additives to get people hooked. (heroin in ecstasy, etc...) I think these stories are overwhelmingly myth and fear-mongering.
posted by Adam_S at 12:57 PM on March 27, 2006

Adam_S: that's fair. Usually it's one user not telling another user (like a friend who once smoked opium laced weed only to be told afterwards like it was a joke, or another friend who smoked coke-laced weed unkowingly) or just a drug induced lack of communication.

Often there is at least some level of trust if you are using a regular dealer. Or so they say. Yeah.
posted by tweak at 1:00 PM on March 27, 2006

tweak: Yep, that sounds right.

I'll admit though, if I had chased a guy in a psychotic rage and stabbed him, I'd probably tell the cops a similar story.
posted by Adam_S at 1:05 PM on March 27, 2006

I'm not denying that people do it, I'm just doubting the stories I hear frequently that dealers deviously lace their products with more expensive additives to get people hooked.

That's what I mean, I imagine it's more likely that if he took PCP, he took it on purpose.
posted by delmoi at 1:08 PM on March 27, 2006

opium-laced weed really won't do much. i don't get why anybody would put more-expensive drugs on top of weed as a "joke" though.
posted by StrasbourgSecaucus at 1:14 PM on March 27, 2006

StrasbourgSecaucus: i don't get why anybody would put more-expensive drugs on top of weed as a "joke" though.

So they can watch the person freak out, of course. I doubt dealers would do that very often, though, since they wouldn't get to watch the results. Maybe it's a matter of one dealer trying to distinguish himself from the others by having stronger product, or just a case of a dealer not knowing what he's got.
posted by Mitrovarr at 1:22 PM on March 27, 2006

Does anyone feel that PCP/Angel Dust would make a nice combat drug? Just a thought.

Err.. well maybe not NICE per say.. but... effective combat drug?
posted by countzen at 1:27 PM on March 27, 2006

No, PCP has erratic reactions. To be effective as a combat drug you would need enhanced sight, hearing and aggression with dulled pain, more like speed or coke without the euphoria. PCP does not enhance reality, it warps it.
posted by Pollomacho at 1:30 PM on March 27, 2006

"Through media hype and a lurid concentration on exceptional reports of its use by aberrant individuals PCP became inextricably linked with extreme violence. The myth was thus born that simply by taking PCP an individual would become prone to commit all kinds of monstrous attacks. In 1978 at special hearings organised by the Select Committee on Narcotic Abuse and Control of the US House of Representatives one senator called PCP: 'one of the most dangerous and insidious drugs known to mankind.' Whatever the dangers of the drug, violent behaviour does not appear to be among them. Ethnographic and sociological studies of PCP users do not support such a view. Most of the users interviewed expressed surprise that PCP was associated with violence at all."

from here.
posted by soiled cowboy at 1:44 PM on March 27, 2006

Here is a short essay on the use of combat drugs by the Germans.
posted by Tullius at 1:48 PM on March 27, 2006

I'm not denying that people do it, I'm just doubting the stories I hear frequently that dealers deviously lace their products with more expensive additives to get people hooked.

PCP is not expensive, particularly because dosage is so small (1-5mg compared with MDMA 100-150 mg). It's frequently used to lace inferior grade weed, or even things like catnip or oregano, as well as cigarettes. It's not done to get people hooked- it's done to make a profit off what would otherwise be nearly worthless.

And some people like it. Though I've known a few people accidentally dosed, and they didn't enjoy it at all.
posted by oneirodynia at 6:53 PM on March 27, 2006

PCP is in the same class of drugs as Ketamine and Nitrous Oxide. It's a dissassociative anaesthetic that basically works by interfering with the connection between mind and body, which means that you don't really feel pain, your sense of reality is incredibly distorted and you don't feel a direct connection to your actions.

It would suck as a combat drug because once you've taken enough to become an unstoppable killing machine, you're basically bat-shit insane and would be as likely to kill your allies or yourself as the enemy.

The only reason people don't go on killing sprees with ketamine is the effect is much more mild and easier to handle. But I'm sure it contributed to Michael Alig's crime.
posted by empath at 7:06 PM on March 27, 2006

Never deny the drug expertise of a man named "Tweak".
posted by CRM114 at 8:36 PM on March 27, 2006

Maybe TGTTM will be funny now.
posted by cellphone at 8:53 PM on March 27, 2006

K makes everything look like plastic.
posted by tweak at 9:09 PM on March 27, 2006

So it's like playing Doom3, then?
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 11:00 PM on March 27, 2006

It's like playing Doom3.... but like, you are staring at your rug, man. Hmm... how should I explain this...

Imagine your couch... but like, Web 2.0 style.
posted by tweak at 12:12 AM on March 28, 2006

'Laced with PHP' stories usually sound pretty unlikely. It's a bit like 'lacing' a bottle of screwtop wine with Cristal Champagne to get people hooked on the quality.

Hey wait, the "Ruby on Rails vs. PHP" thread is down the hall and to the left.
posted by Rhomboid at 4:55 AM on March 28, 2006