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	<title>Comments on: What to Take When Deploying To the Middle East</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:54:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>What to Take When Deploying To the Middle East</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.survival.com/deployment.htm"&gt;Living and working in the desert.&lt;/a&gt; I was reading this interesting article when I came upon this: [more inside]</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:54:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tellurian</dc:creator>		<category>deployment</category>		<category>desert</category>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263649</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I always take a wrist rocket to plink with, the ammo is free and readily available. It has saved my butt more than once allowing me to take small game and in some of the wonderful locations I have had the pleasure of staying, kill a few rats before going to sleep for the night. 
On one occasion, it kept approximately 8 Turks from beating my brains in. Getting hit with a projectile launched from one of these little sling shots hurts like hell and would kill a man if it hit him in the right place.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/39858#862567&quot;&gt;snsranch&lt;/a&gt; may have taken this advice. I&apos;ve never heard of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sausa.com/pp24.html&quot;&gt;wrist rockets&lt;/a&gt; before. Here&apos;s one with a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catsdomain.com/&quot;&gt;laser sight&lt;/a&gt;&lt;small&gt; [warning - annoying music, scroll to the bottom of the page to turn it off]&lt;/small&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: _aa_</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263656</link>	
		<description>You&apos;ll shoot your eye out.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:14:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stavrogin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263660</link>	
		<description>Too bad he didn&apos;t go into detail about the 8 turks and his slingshot.

&quot;wrist rocket&quot;?  guh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:21:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: weston</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263668</link>	
		<description>I first read about wrist rockets in Robb White&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0440917409/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Deathwatch&lt;/a&gt;, which my 7th grade English Teacher had us read. And read to us. Interesting fellow. Really easily distracted by talk about guns and hunting.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:40:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alvy Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263670</link>	
		<description>A lot of kids had wrist rockets growing up, and my mom has an SR7; they&apos;re pretty neat things indeed. I&apos;m pretty sure mom hasn&apos;t scared off any Turks with it, though. 

And what the hell does Charlie Brown have to do with a laser-sighted slingshot?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:43:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263687</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://lr2.com/archives/2005/08/27/wrist-rocket-laser-slingshot-ps-52/&quot;&gt;Oops!&lt;/a&gt; I&apos;d better take it out the tags.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:06:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MetaMonkey</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263710</link>	
		<description>So these wrist rockets, are they somehow different/better than regular &apos;pro&apos; slingshots I may have broken things with?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:07:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263726</link>	
		<description>MetaMonkey, did you look at the videos on that last link? The guy took out a &lt;strike&gt;Turk&lt;/strike&gt; Coke can at (from memory, the sites down at the moment) 150 feet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:39:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ikkyu2</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263728</link>	
		<description>Be careful with these things - they&apos;re not toys.  They can put a 1-cm lead ball three inches deep into a living tree.  They will kill small animals immediately; head or heart shots to medium game and humans will also be fatal.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:48:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263747</link>	
		<description>I can believe you ikkyu2. My searching doesn&apos;t find a retail outlet in Australia. I can imagine there would be a outrage in the community if they imported them here. Who are they targeted (no pun intended) at marketing-wise, in the States, kids or adults?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:39:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ikkyu2</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263757</link>	
		<description>They&apos;re targeted at adolescents and eternal adolescents.

My friend had one when he was 16.  He (and his surroundings) would&apos;ve been safer had it been a handgun, because there is a culture built up in America that guns aren&apos;t toys and you need to be careful when handling them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:47:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: buggzzee23</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263772</link>	
		<description>The Wrist Rocket has been around for years. It was originally marketed by Whamo (the Hula Hoop folks) and I got my first one in 1967 or &apos;68 when I was 12-13 years old. We were having serious problems with rabbits, weasels, opossum and other small animals at the time and it proved to be the perfect weapon to earn quite a bit of bounty from my parents. I still use it on rabbits in the garden during the wee hours of the morning when a shot from the .22 would wake up my wife.

The steel shot will penetrate a car fender and the wood shot is excellent for scaring deer out of the garden without causing any injury. The glass shot is used by vandals to break glass without leaving any tell-tale evidence.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 03:38:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263781</link>	
		<description>Only in America</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:23:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: elgilito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263786</link>	
		<description>As I didn&apos;t know about &quot;wrist rockets&quot;, I turned to &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/images?q=%22wrist+rocket%22&quot;&gt;Google Image Search&lt;/a&gt; for a clue... Really, these things are sold to kids in the US? Even those cute violet ones?

About the article: most of it seemed right out of some bizarro fashion magazine, saps and holsters replacing high heels and leather purses. Dressed to kill, really.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:28:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263790</link>	
		<description>Yes. I should have probably warned of the perils of Googling for &apos;wrist rockets&apos;.
elgilito, despite your scepticism I think that the article was based on some element of previous experience and qualified in areas where it wasn&apos;t sure.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:42:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: buggzzee23</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263791</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t speak for availabilty in other states, but you can&apos;t buy a Wrist Rocket in California unless you&apos;re 18 years old or older.

They&apos;re also available in&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fishingcanada.ws/store/shop/item.asp?itemid=2865&quot;&gt; Canada&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:43:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263796</link>	
		<description>buggzzee23, that&apos;s interesting. Do you have a link to any legislation? I looked for something in Australia and couldn&apos;t find any. It seems to me that this is a lethal weapon that has slipped under the radar.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:57:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thanotopsis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263800</link>	
		<description>Reading the anecdote about the 8 turks is unintentionally hilarious if you initially interpret the phrase &quot;wrist rocket&quot; to be a euphemism for masturbation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:04:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: elgilito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263801</link>	
		<description>Oh I&apos;m not skeptical about the content. It&apos;s just than when I read things like &quot;Whatever you do, stay away from 100 % cotton&quot; or &quot;I am fond of the reversible fleece jackets&quot; or &quot;In the summer I wear thin leather fingerless gloves&quot; I can&apos;t help picturing the guy sashaying down the catwalk at a Survivalist Fashion Show, wearing the latest in &quot;fleece type baklavas&quot; and &quot;silk long johns&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:04:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263815</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;if you initially interpret the phrase &quot;wrist rocket&quot; to be a euphemism for masturbation.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/50531#1263790&quot;&gt; See&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Survivalist Fashion Show.&lt;/i&gt; hee hee</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:30:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eriko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263816</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;It&apos;s just than when I read things like...&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, but the guy&apos;s picking the right gear. Cotton does kill, mod the one exception he notes (loose cotton, in dry desert heat, is good.) 

Even his comments on a backup weapon are good -- he&apos;s picking light over power, which is, for someone who may be spending days on thier feet, the right answer -- and he knows he&apos;s going to get grief about picking a .22 pistol, and has the right answer -- &quot;I don&apos;t want to get shot by anything, even a .22&quot;

I&apos;d go for a Tilley hat over the Outback, but maybe he hasn&apos;t seen them (or discarded it for other reasons.) 

His stressing water is exactly right -- and it is true anyway outdoors. It&apos;s just easier to resupply in the woods, but without it, you die amazingly quickly, often, because you did something stupid because your brain wasn&apos;t working right.

I like this phrase, though. &lt;i&gt;If under attack I do not have to stand around holding my slinky, instead of engaging the enemy.&lt;/i&gt;

Hmm. &quot;For fun, it&apos;s a wonderful toy!&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:32:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mocata</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1263871</link>	
		<description>This guy comes across as complete nut.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:08:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrmojoflying</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1264016</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;This guy comes across as complete nut.&lt;/em&gt;

I think he comes across as completely rational.  He&apos;s not giving talks at a suburban development forum or a PTA meeting.  He&apos;s speaking as a desert combat vetern to combat neophytes about to be deployed into a hostile conflict in the desert.  If I was 20 years old, and about to go to Iraq, I would be very, very greatful for his advice and so would my parents.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:51:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mitheral</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1264023</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;eriko&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/50531#1263816&apos;&gt;writes&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;&quot;Even his comments on a backup weapon are good -- he&apos;s picking light over power,&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Note that the .22 is his secondary back up.  His primary is .38 or .357.  And that is in addition to his sidearm and I&apos;m assuming some kind of rifle or carbine.

This guy is a logistical nightmare.  He carries four different types of ammunition.  At least his .357 is a revolver so he doesn&apos;t need mags for that though I&apos;d bet he carries a speedloader or two.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:56:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sonofsamiam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1264032</link>	
		<description>Oh man, Deathwatch! I really enjoyed that one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:01:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mocata</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1264048</link>	
		<description>Flying - you&apos;re right.  But if you read it outside that context, statements like &apos;Anyone entering strange or remote territory should always keep a pocket survival kit on their person at all times.  I have two; one in my  pocket and one attached to my big knife sheath&apos; make him sound a bit like John Rambo or something.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:10:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1264123</link>	
		<description>mrmojoflying, I don&apos;t know about you or your parents but I hear where you&apos;re coming from. I think that he gives some great advice, that&apos;s why I posted it, the wrist rocket was an (albeit fascinating) aside,</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:51:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MotherTucker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50531/What-to-Take-When-Deploying-To-the-Middle-East#1264157</link>	
		<description>I always bring my pocket rocket with me, however it&apos;s messy when it goes off unexpectedly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:13:59 -0800</pubDate>
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