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	<title>Comments on: If The Journal and The Sun had a baby...</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:22:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>If The Journal and The Sun had a baby...</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elizabethspiers.com/&quot;&gt;Elizabeth Spiers&lt;/a&gt;, of &lt;a href=&gt;Gawker&lt;/a&gt; fame, has a new site, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dealbreaker.com/&quot;&gt;Dealbreaker&lt;/a&gt;, which bills itself as &quot;an online business tabloid and Wall Street gossip blog.&quot; Content-free snark, with links to articles of interest to Wall Street fanboys? Oh, Elizabeth, you steal my heart. But, perhaps just mine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:15:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rush</dc:creator>		<category>Gawker</category>		<category>ElizabethSpiers</category>		<category>Dealbreaker</category>		<category>gossip</category>		<category>banking</category>		<category>WallStreet</category>
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		<title>By: geoff.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264343</link>	
		<description>They&apos;ve been dropping hints about this for awhile. The thing that made Gawker, Defamer and other gossip sites so intriguing were the good looking people involved. Wall Street does not have the same look requirements as the media and Hollywood -- thus some balding analyst and Bank of America doing coke and sleeping with a model is less interesting than Whitney Houston&apos;s crack den.</description>
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		<title>By: SweetJesus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264358</link>	
		<description>Ugh, too inside-y...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:33:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>SweetJesus</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264361</link>	
		<description>yup...it&apos;s iffy, and some things she won&apos;t ever be able to print, lawsuitwise--the best (and juiciest) Wall Street stuff is always illegal. Unless that&apos;s the strategy--get attention by getting sued a lot?

(she&apos;s also an oldtime mefite--&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/user/9103&quot;&gt;lizs,&lt;/a&gt; rush)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:34:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dios</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264371</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;The thing that made Gawker, Defamer and other gossip sites so intriguing were the good looking people involved&lt;/em&gt;

Are you saying that Elisabeth Spiers isn&apos;t attractive enough to keep it intriguing?  After looking at the website linked to in the post, I&apos;d disagree.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:41:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: geoff.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264386</link>	
		<description>No I&apos;m saying the average 55-year old banker is not attractive enough, well no where near the intrigue of hearing Lindsay Lohan and her mom picking up guys at Bungalow-8.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:47:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rush</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264414</link>	
		<description>Huh. Interesting, amberglow.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:03:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dios</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264461</link>	
		<description>I see. Gotcha geoff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:30:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jayder</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264565</link>	
		<description>Having first encountered her writing in Gawker, I think it&apos;s typical of Elizabeth Spiers to &lt;a href=&quot;http://elizabethspiers.com/files/2006/03/27/an_overdue_plug_paul_sarkis_miracleworker_to_the_decidedly_nonphotogenic.html&quot;&gt;blather about how unphotogenic she is&lt;/a&gt;, in the very same blog entry where she &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/48125816@N00/sets/72057594092102243/&quot;&gt;posts a link to photos of herself&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:00:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cell divide</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264571</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;The thing that made Gawker, Defamer and other gossip sites so intriguing were the good looking people involved&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah, intriguing to you and a lot of others, maybe, but if you know all (or even some) of these banking/finance people, you might be interested. I, like 99.999% of the population, have never heard of any of them and have zero interest. But there&apos;s something about capturing a very rich and influential group of people&apos;s attention that makes it easier to launch other things.

In other words, I&apos;m sure this isn&apos;t the only blog Spiers is planning.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:11:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cell divide</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: insomnia_lj</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264628</link>	
		<description>Wait... are you saying that Gawker was ever intriguing?!!

I&apos;d love to take up some of my precious time to check out this site, but Xeni Jardin said that she&apos;d let me watch her toenails dry on the webcam.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:15:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maggiemaggie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264661</link>	
		<description>It has to be said: that Spiers chick can not write. I don&apos;t know why anyone thinks otherwise. 

Gawker and all the Denton sites give me the creeps.

Plus I hate the word &quot;snark.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:09:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mckenney</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264676</link>	
		<description>There are Wall Street fanboys?!  Clearly those people have never actually had a drink with an investment banker.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:31:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: booksandlibretti</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264693</link>	
		<description>Yeah, but geoff, Wonkette (DC politics) is another Gawker-umbrella blog.  There aren&apos;t a whole lot of pretties in that business, and Wonkette&apos;s doing all right.  I think this could survive if it finds its target audience quickly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:57:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: greggish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264771</link>	
		<description>Anyone notice the fetal wiki on the site? &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.dealbreaker.com/index.php/Frank_Quattrone&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; was the first page I came to -- 

&lt;em&gt;Frank Quattrone (1956) is an absolute rock-star, notorious for playing bass on Daznig&apos;s classic hit &quot;Mother.&quot; &lt;/em&gt;

&apos;Daznig!&apos; Sounds like an appropriate exclamation to blurt when you see a ballsy (and potentially dumb?) move like this one on a site. Seems like the wiki ain&apos;t really worky yet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:08:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264783</link>	
		<description>Money is sex for ugly people.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:45:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: greggish</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1264915</link>	
		<description>yeah i&apos;m pretty sure that doesn&apos;t make any sense.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:35:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artifice_Eternity</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/50545/If-The-Journal-and-The-Sun-had-a-baby#1265331</link>	
		<description>What booksandlibretti said.  I&apos;ve never liked the snarky, utterly cynical detachment of Wonkette.  But it seems to be based on a simple premise: Members of any given specialized group love to read about themselves, even trashy gossip.  

It helps if you throw a soupcon of sex into the mix.  And the former student-government geeks who populate DC won&apos;t notice if you do so in a crude and transparently manipulative way -- they&apos;re not particularly sexually sophisticated, so you don&apos;t have to be either.  

Wonkette has actually helped me understand just how horribly incestuous, self-important, petty, and clueless the inside-the-beltway culture is... and not because the blog has provided an outside perspective -- indeed, because it&apos;s mostly done just the opposite.

I haven&apos;t read Dealbreaker yet (I can&apos;t even load the site right now), so I can&apos;t pass any judgment.  I know there are still some kinks being worked out in terms of the writing and the editorial staff.  

It&apos;ll be interesting to see if a business blog can work, tho it&apos;s a snoozer of a concept to me personally.  I am neither interested in the intricacies of finance, nor tremendously ambitious about getting wired into the world of money and power.  But I guess I&apos;m not the target audience.

MaggieMaggie: Elizabeth Spiers hasn&apos;t worked for Denton for a long time -- Dealbreaker is not under the Gawker Media umbrella.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 23:58:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Artifice_Eternity</dc:creator>
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