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flashbacks of Ibiza

vronsky — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:46:54 -0800

FOAM When foam tests go wrong.

By: magodesky

magodesky — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:48:40 -0800

Wow. That's a lot of foam.

By: xil

xil — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:51:31 -0800

Or when foam tests go right.

By: ninjew

ninjew — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:54:37 -0800

Hey, one time (in a drunken haze) I put dish soap in the dishwasher reservoir. My kitchen looked approximately the same.

By: chudmonkey

chudmonkey — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:56:18 -0800

I had to assume this wasn't a mistake when I saw the pictures a few days ago. If the intent of the system wasn't to potentially fill the hangar, why would the system have a large enough supply of foam to do so? And even if the system was over-supplied for its purpose, I'm sure that humans could have cut the supply before it escalated as far as it did.

By: paulsc

paulsc — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:58:52 -0800

"The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later." Lots.

By: elpapacito

elpapacito — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:00:57 -0800

xil: and there's a matrioska of misconceptions and misrepresentations Master Sgt. Dana Rogers, 28th Communications Squadron superintendent of network security, said e-mails such as the one depicting the foam test "misrepresent our capabilities" and can even damage computer networks. "You think it's so funny, so you send it to 10 people. Then, they send it to 10 more. This takes up an extremely large amount of e-mail space and can lead to the loss of a resource," he said. How DARE you send 10 mails you insensitive testicle ? It's obvious the others will do as well and it will grow exponentially ! It MUST BE ! I am head of network security ! Similarly, if letting the foam system run for more then needed proves it is better, then what about letting it run for a couple hours ? It will be EXTRA good , will it ? The doors were opened because these B1 outside really really needed a good wash, but poor John left for Iraq :/ John we miss you !

By: srboisvert

srboisvert — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:01:24 -0800

Another aspect of e-mails that miscommunicate facts is the amount of time someone may have to take in order to set the record straight. An e-mail that took two seconds to send caused a large number of man-hours to fix. There is definitely the potential for a loss in duty hours for people in leadership positions, Sergeant Rogers said. Mr. Mark Wheeler, 28th CES deputy commander agreed. "A CES commander's schedule is very demanding," said Mr. Wheeler. "Any time spent responding to an incident like this is a drain on a very precious resource: time." Mr. Wheeler said Colonel Singh spent more than 20 hours investigating this incident, and there were many more hours of investigation done by other members of the squadron who were attempting to re-trace steps and gather facts that would lead to the truth of the matter surrounding the pictures of the foam test. Instead of focusing on this circulating e-mail, Mr. Wheeler said Colonel Singh's time could have been better spent. "Lt. Col. Singh and the entire squadron have spent too much time on this issue," he explained. The lesson from this issue is Airmen should think about what they are sending out before hitting the "send" button. "Before you create an e-mail based upon some pictures you have or partial information you have come across, you should ask yourself if you are really in a position to explain what is happening and why," Lieutenant Kessler said. "The Air Force of today is extremely busy, and dealing with an issue like this takes us away from focusing on the mission and taking care of our Airmen." Foam isn't the only thing they pile high and deep.

By: delmoi

delmoi — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:09:41 -0800

So does anyone have, like, a non-dead image link we could look at, or are we all just going to have to speculate?

By: PissOnYourParade

PissOnYourParade — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:12:47 -0800

I'm just very impressed by that technology. It genuinely looks like it could end a jet fuel fed fire from blowing the place up. I would feel a lot better wheeling high explosives around with those ducts over my head.

By: brundlefly

brundlefly — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:14:09 -0800

There's a small v. of one of the photos on Boing Boing.

By: -harlequin-

-harlequin- — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:43:18 -0800

Hmmm... one of those hangers with a foam system would be a good place for a giant party :)

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:43:50 -0800

Let's Get Retardent In Here, via Imageshack: 1 2 3 4 5 5b 6 7 8 8b 9 Large-ish pics warning, and apologies for the pun.

By: zpousman

zpousman — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:50:20 -0800

pics are up. Hanger fills up with foam. Then they open the big bay doors and the foam runs out onto the tarmac. Woooooo. Kinda funny, but not nearly as good as the trucks-with-cranes-falling-into-a-river set that went around a few years back.

By: ArkhanJG

ArkhanJG — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:54:41 -0800

-harlequin-: reminds me of a great nightclub years ago. Only with better music and more dancin'. *Sigh* shame they closed it down. Ironically, it was due to to insufficient fire-safety systems.

By: syzygy

syzygy — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:58:11 -0800

Quote from the linked page: "You said 15 SECONDS? Not minutes? Sorry, my bad." Oooooh - FOAM. I thought you said FAME!

By: mendel

mendel — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:13:05 -0800

Let's Get Retardent In Here That is excellent.

By: dejah420

dejah420 — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:15:35 -0800

Hey, one time (in a drunken haze) I put dish soap in the dishwasher reservoir. My kitchen looked approximately the same. - ninjew Once, I didn't notice that an open bottle of liquid soap had fallen into the rack of the dishwasher. Until my kitchen started to look like that episode of the Brady Bunch. It was sitcom level absurd, it was. I was sweeping mountains of bubbles out the back door. So, you're not alone...and I don't even have the excuse that I was drunk.

By: ZenMasterThis

ZenMasterThis — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:17:03 -0800

This is inflammatory. Oh, wait a minute, I guess it isn't, actually.

By: rkent

rkent — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:38:55 -0800

This is inflammatory. Inflammable? Wait, no, not that either. /just wish "let's get retardant" wasn't taken already.

By: BlackLeotardFront

BlackLeotardFront — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:30:50 -0800

Well, for my part, I liked looking at the pictures.

By: X4ster

X4ster — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:32:11 -0800

CAFS , Compressed Air Foam System (deluge)
Probably installed by the lowest bidding qualified contractor to fulfill AFR (Air Force Regulation) to protect $1.7 billion each aircraft. Required acceptance test of system goes terribly wrong. Possibly a dual interlock detection system with IR detectors, beam detectors, heat and smoke detectors plus manual pull stations.

Hell of an embarassment to those involved; potentially an environmental issue depending on which type of foam (AFFF) involved.

By: Busithoth

Busithoth — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:59:46 -0800

That's exactly what my boss at Hess said would happen if I hit the big red button on the desk. He explained that I better be damned sure a car's seriously on fire before hitting it, because I'd have to clean it up if it was a false alarm.

By: wakko

wakko — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:52:49 -0800

i'm looking through and it all would be so crystal clear if it wasn't for the foam and the foam keeps getting thicker and it just keeps getting harder and i'm faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalling into a deep well

By: Civil_Disobedient

Civil_Disobedient — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:55:22 -0800

wakko, step away from the bong.

By: StickyCarpet

StickyCarpet — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:29:41 -0800

ninjew: Hey, one time (in a drunken haze) I put dish soap in the dishwasher reservoir. My kitchen looked approximately the same. Tried that once, just because I'd run out of the regular kind, with similar results. I must say that the kitchen floor was never cleaner, and I might do it again for that reason.

By: fshgrl

fshgrl — Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:47:34 -0800

I can't even remember how many times one of my roomates in college produced that effect by putting dishsoap in either the dishwasher or the washing machine but it was quite a few. The cat liked to sleep on top of the dryer and was totally engulfed once, funniest damn thing.

By: Happy Monkey

Happy Monkey — Mon, 17 Apr 2006 04:31:03 -0800

Oh, the poor Cellar. It's been FARKed and BoingBoinged to within an inch of its life this past week...

By: Faint of Butt

Faint of Butt — Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:19:09 -0800

Foam if you want to / Foam around the world...

By: annieb

annieb — Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:15:27 -0800

This made my son feel much better after loading the dishwasher with dish soap. Love this!!!!

By: Mitheral

Mitheral — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:00:03 -0800

dejah420 writes "Once, I didn't notice that an open bottle of liquid soap had fallen into the rack of the dishwasher. Until my kitchen started to look like that episode of the Brady Bunch. It was sitcom level absurd, it was. I was sweeping mountains of bubbles out the back door. " If you experience an excessive suds situation the best fix on hand is regular white vinager, it'll kill the suds action.