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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:58:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Downgrading the Fourth Estate</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2006/04/20/mcl_rlbk.html"&gt;Rollback.&lt;/a&gt; Media critic Jay Rosen rises above the McClellan/&quot;shake-up&quot; foofaraw to put several pieces of the puzzle together and show how the Bush administration has significantly altered the long-standing relationship of the press to the White House. (More from Rosen &lt;a href=&quot;http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2005/07/16/rll_back.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.) Another piece that fits: Donald Rumsfeld&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?as_q=rumsfeld+AND+%22media+committees%22&amp;num=100&amp;hl=en&amp;btnG=Google+Search&amp;as_epq=&amp;as_oq=&amp;as_eq=&amp;lr=&amp;as_ft=i&amp;as_filetype=&amp;as_qdr=all&amp;as_occt=any&amp;as_dt=i&amp;as_sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.defenselink.mil%2Ftranscripts&amp;as_rights=&amp;safe=off&quot;&gt;bold, frequent, and rarely-challenged assertions&lt;/a&gt; that the American press is being expertly &quot;manipulated&quot; by Al Qaeda &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2006/tr20060417-12843.html&quot;&gt;&quot;media committees&quot;&lt;/a&gt; in Iraq and Afghanistan.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:58:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>digaman</dc:creator>		<category>Bush</category>		<category>Rumsfeld</category>		<category>McClellan</category>		<category>Rosen</category>		<category>Salon</category>		<category>politics</category>		<category>GOP</category>		<category>Republican</category>		<category>WhiteHouse</category>		<category>press</category>		<category>media</category>		<category>journalism</category>
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		<title>By: digaman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285284</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;foofaraw&lt;/i&gt;

Hey, a least I didn&apos;t say &quot;fustian.&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: digaman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285286</link>	
		<description>Michelle Malkin&apos;s torrents of disdain for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?as_q=MSM&amp;num=100&amp;hl=en&amp;btnG=Google+Search&amp;as_epq=&amp;as_oq=&amp;as_eq=&amp;lr=&amp;as_ft=i&amp;as_filetype=&amp;as_qdr=all&amp;as_occt=any&amp;as_dt=i&amp;as_sitesearch=www.michellemalkin.com&amp;as_rights=&amp;safe=off&quot;&gt;MSM&lt;/a&gt; is another piece of that puzzle, making the press seem late, biased, and ridiculous on every issue. All of which, of course, it can be -- with some worthy exceptions.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:01:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jellicle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285297</link>	
		<description>This blog posting takes a look specifically at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://billmon.org/archives/002399.html&quot;&gt;DoD&apos;s relationship with the press&lt;/a&gt; in light of recent revelations.  The last paragraph nails it on the head.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:15:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: odinsdream</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285314</link>	
		<description>foofaraw = free for all?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:34:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RufusW</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285317</link>	
		<description>MSM - Main Stream Media

Audio Link of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/04/19.html#a7969&quot;&gt;Rummy&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:38:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MrMoonPie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285327</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/archive/2004/08/17.html&quot;&gt;foofaraw&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:47:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: octothorpe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285329</link>	
		<description>There was a great interview on &quot;On the Media&quot; this week with Juan Cole about the playing up of Zarqawi by all sides in Iraq.  The audio is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onthemedia.org/stream/ram.py?file=otm/otm041406c.mp3&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and the transcript is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/transcripts_041406_insurgentdivergent.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  

One of the best quotes from it, &lt;em&gt;&quot;It&apos;s impossible that he&apos;s running around the country setting off 25 bombs a day. I mean, he would have to have tens of thousands of followers for the logistics of it. It makes no sense.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:48:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: odinsdream</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285335</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/archive/2004/08/17.html&quot;&gt;foofaraw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

well whaddya know!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:54:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bardic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285336</link>	
		<description>Interesting stuff.  &quot;Press nullification&quot; is a good phrase for what&apos;s being done.  However, the phrase &quot;I learned it from you dad&quot; is running through my mind--i.e., Clinton&apos;s press operation definitely provided the template for Rove &amp;amp; co.  They&apos;ve run away with it, to say the least.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:55:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sonofsamiam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285338</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;foofaraw = free for all?&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bartleby.com/61/38/F0233800.html&quot;&gt;Probably from Spanish&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:56:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fezboy!</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285360</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.radioopensource.org/scott-mcclellans-one-right-thing/&quot;&gt;This bit&lt;/a&gt; from the After Matters section of the first link is particularly &lt;strike&gt;funny&lt;/strike&gt; galling.  Funny because it is blatantly absurd.  Galling because unfortunately it is not satire.  Thanks for the links.  I wish I had read the rollback story last June when it came out.  At least I would have had an organized explanation for the weird dread i get from listening to press conferences.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:13:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leecifer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285368</link>	
		<description>bardic: Rosen links to this &lt;a href=&quot;http://dickpolman.blogspot.com/2006/04/beam-up-next-scotty.html&quot;&gt;Dick Polman&lt;/a&gt; piece which also notes the similarity between the Clinton White House press operation and the current one.  That said, he agrees with Rosen that this White House has not just run with the Clinton model, but departed from the longstanding model used by White House communications machines since the 60s.  Rather than just lying and stonewalling, being a punching bag for the press corps, this White House employs its press operation in the name of delegitimizing the role of the media in American government.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:17:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bardic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285382</link>	
		<description>Understood leecifer.  I still think it&apos;s easy to forget just how twisted the Clinton PR operation became, especially, during the second term, but point(s) taken.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:27:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smedleyman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285440</link>	
		<description>Dear Mr. Rumsfeld,

Regarding your allegations that the press is being manipulated by Al Qaeda, I would have to say you...

/is &quot;shit head&quot; hyphenated?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:10:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285443</link>	
		<description>Use of the acronym MSM = the person using it is probably batshit insane.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:12:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: homunculus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285473</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2006/04/radio-rmalkin.html&gt;Radio Rmalkin&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:30:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fleacircus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285580</link>	
		<description>I think after Clinton and the Gore candidacy they might have been right in concluding that the press was both stupid and dangerous.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 16:39:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: homunculus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1285720</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/04/20.html#a7988&gt;Henny Penny&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:26:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: digaman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51057/Downgrading-the-Fourth-Estate#1286121</link>	
		<description>One thing that amazes me is, Rumsfeld has been making this charge for years to discredit the press and blunt the impact of criticism against his Shock-and-Awe Democracy strategy.  Yet, for all his hammering on the notion that the Al Qaeda, Zarqawi, and bin Laden run specialized &quot;media committees&quot; whose task it is to bend the American media to trash the war, where&apos;s the evidence that these committees exist?  Has one single member of one of these apparently outrageously successful committees ever been captured and questioned?  Has one single American news story ever been traced to this source?  Or were these &quot;committees&quot; also relocated to Syria, along with the WMDs?

Note to fellow journalists:  &lt;i&gt;Will someone please ask Bush or Rumsfeld to back up this claim&lt;/i&gt;?  As the link in the FPP shows, Rumsfeld has made this claim over and over and over in press conferences.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:41:28 -0800</pubDate>
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