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	<title>Comments on: Freedom of the Seas</title>
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	<description>Comments on MetaFilter post Freedom of the Seas</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:04:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Freedom of the Seas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.freedomoftheseas.com/?sid=3"&gt;Freedom of the seas&lt;/a&gt; World,s largest passenger liner, currently docked in Southampton UK, in prep for voyage to New York. Then a life of cruising the Carib. 15m wider than the QM2

Check out the flash tour.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 03:06:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>A189Nut</dc:creator>		<category>oceanliner</category>		<category>cruising</category>		<category>ship</category>
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		<title>By: strawberryviagra</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293751</link>	
		<description>Wow - a ship made entirely of cheese!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:04:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: punilux</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293753</link>	
		<description> I&apos;ve just been down to see it, an incredible sight as it dominates the city skyline.  Standing at the blunt end, it just seems to go up and up forever.  (I&apos;m a little annoyed they&apos;re not letting us proles on board for a look around though).  Video of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/4957076.stm&quot;&gt;ship.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:10:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: malpractice</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293754</link>	
		<description>That woman spoke to me like I was an infant. Nice boat, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:11:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>malpractice</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Hildegarde</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293776</link>	
		<description>Mmmm pepsi blue! The ad is a nice interface, but the people are a little too perky. It&apos;s a hotel that floats, I don&apos;t really see the attraction.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 05:32:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dogmilk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293784</link>	
		<description>Does it run on biodiesel?? I think not.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 05:51:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293792</link>	
		<description>G-d, she was annoying.  Did the casting person say a &quot;Teri Hatcher-ish&quot; woman?

I think there are two kinds of people in the world: those who think taking a cruise is desirable, and those who think it is HELL.  And I cannot imagine falling in love with someone who wants to go on a cruise.  

God, I hate the idea of a cruise!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 06:40:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293800</link>	
		<description>Freedom of the Seas?  FloatingHell. WaterPrison. SeaHell....come on, I have an idea for a thread!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 06:44:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ParisParamus</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: atrazine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293803</link>	
		<description>PrisonHulk</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 06:48:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293807</link>	
		<description>TheMallBoat.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 06:55:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nthdegx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293812</link>	
		<description>We&apos;re going to need a bigger boat.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:03:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Atreides</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293813</link>	
		<description>Heh. It has an ice skating rink.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:05:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: paulsc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293821</link>	
		<description>For once, I find myself in complete agreement with PP. What an incredibly weird sensation. VacationContainer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:11:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wfrgms</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293832</link>	
		<description>&quot;Passenger liner&quot; sounds so much more classy than &quot;cruise ship&quot; A+ marketing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:23:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eriko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293839</link>	
		<description>Wow, PP nails it, though &quot;Vacation Container Ship&quot; has scary implications.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:29:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: elpapacito</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293862</link>	
		<description>But you can rent that big ass mofo to a State to host refugees, or a party. Whatever janks your anchor.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 07:57:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blue_beetle</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293868</link>	
		<description>The sequel: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/mofo-snake1-1.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/mofo-snake1-1.jpg&quot; width=&quot;300&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:04:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293874</link>	
		<description>Cruise ships. A supposedly fun thing I&apos;ll never do again.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:11:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jacquilynne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293887</link>	
		<description>/me shrugs. 

For my family, with pretty diverse interests, a cruise ship is a decent way for us to go on vacation together. We can do whatever during the day, and at the end of the day, still sit down to dinner together. 

Is it my ideal vacation? No. Is it my mother&apos;s ideal vacation? No. 
My father&apos;s? My brother&apos;s? No and no. But if you go for a middle ground, it&apos;s at least something we can all enjoy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:25:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A189Nut</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293895</link>	
		<description>Best part of the animation is leaving it running without selecting an option. The woman smiles and hops from foot to foot in an endless loop.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:36:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Staggering Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293911</link>	
		<description>I like the way the word &quot;Adventurous&quot; shot accross the screen as the flash tour was loading.  I always thought cruise ships were for people who were avoiding adventure (except in the &quot;$200 extra liability limited packaged 40 person shore extreme excursion get me back for the evening buffet&quot; meaning of the word).  I would, however, have bought the word &quot;Relax-o-matic&quot; if it zoomed across the screen.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:56:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sourwookie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293913</link>	
		<description>I see they&apos;ve trotted out the new line of Constipation Class vessels.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:59:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293920</link>	
		<description>One of the copywriters for this site is a close friend of my wife. I&apos;m going to memorize some of that obnoxious tourguide&apos;s dialogue to slip into our next conversation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:04:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: banishedimmortal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293924</link>	
		<description>Believe it or not, you ain&apos;t seen nothing yet.
Freedom of the Seas is a measly 160,000 tons. Royal Caribbean has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9070-2156400,00.html&quot;&gt;ship&lt;/a&gt; on order for 2009 that will be 220,000 tons, the largest ship ever built in the history of the world...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:06:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thirteenkiller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293940</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;the largest ship ever built in the history of the world...&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahre_Viking&quot;&gt;um, no&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:30:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pwedza</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293941</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Cocktail? ...nah, just kidding. &lt;/em&gt;(offering a coke)

What a dick.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:31:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jikel_morten</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293954</link>	
		<description>Where do I type &quot;show boobs&quot;?  Or is this not one of those?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:42:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: salvia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293963</link>	
		<description>I like the 4 seconds before the tour guide realizes the camera is rolling.  (Didn&apos;t make it tooo much further, in fact.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:57:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: marxchivist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1293986</link>	
		<description>God himself couldn&apos;t sink that ship.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:16:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: funambulist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294045</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Cocktail? ...nah, just kidding. (offering a coke)

What a dick.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, but if you keep an eye on his friend just pointing and nodding and never saying a thing, and imagine it&apos;s some sort of Marx bros sketch, or even, Penn &amp;amp; Teller, then it is really funny!

Except the haircuts. The haircuts are straight from &lt;strike&gt;hell&lt;/strike&gt; Fox News anchorman style. Frightening. It makes me re-evaluate that myspace goth/emo hair gallery.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:54:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mr_roboto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294056</link>	
		<description>This is not what the web is for!  If I wanted to watch television, I&apos;d watch a motherfucking television.  Just give me the goddamn information!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:09:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Baby_Balrog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294059</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;God himself couldn&apos;t sink that ship.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

lol</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:12:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ParisParamus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294067</link>	
		<description>The HMS BiggestShipO&apos;Fools.

I kid you not: as long as there are large numbers of people who think &quot;cruising&quot; is desirerable, don&apos;t expect the world&apos;s problems to improve much.  To allocate so much money and resources in this manner is just depraved.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:25:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tritisan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294077</link>	
		<description>I already find the whole idea of cruise ships incredibly decadent (in the Roman Empire sense of &quot;decadent&quot;), but a CG version of one somehow just adds a creepy factor.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:01:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brundlefly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294108</link>	
		<description>Caribbean In A Can! See the world without having to interact with poor people!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:57:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: banishedimmortal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294111</link>	
		<description>Thirteenkiller, I stand corrected, although the Knock Nevis didn&apos;t seem to actually be used as a ship much, more like a floating but permanently moored oil holding tank. So, if you don&apos;t include the Knock Nevis, the new as-yet-unnamed Royal Caribbean ship will be the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_world%27s_largest_ships&quot;&gt;largest ever built&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:00:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: George_Spiggott</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294132</link>	
		<description>Whenever I see a newer cruise ship I&apos;m always staggered by the number of decks they pile on top of them.  They&apos;ve even taken to making the top decks wider than the hull.   Compare to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theclydebankstory.com/images/TCSA00362_m.jpg&quot;&gt;an image of a passenger liner&lt;/a&gt; from back when that was a practical means of  transportation as opposed to a way to &quot;travel&quot; without having to cope with any foreignness.

 Congratulations, they&apos;ve invented a ship which is 90% steerage; a floating chain hotel which you literally cannot leave until it docks.   How much do you have to pay for light and air in the depths of one of those things?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:45:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tubes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294135</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve never been on a cruise. But I tell ya, after spending countless hours planning all the flying, driving, lodging, sightseeing, and adventuring for a &quot;realxing&quot; vacation earlier this month I was damn tempted to shelve it all and sign up for a cruise. 

If the idea is to get away from the daily grind, chill out in comfort and security, and do some things you don&apos;t do every day, then it sounds pretty good. All I gotta do is show up at the boat with a bag packed? Cool. Point me to the bar, please. 

Sure, it&apos;s not a &quot;real traveling experience.&quot; Apples vs. oranges.

Oh, and that website was &lt;em&gt;thoroughly&lt;/em&gt; annoying.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:49:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tubes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294138</link>	
		<description>(oops: &quot;relaxing&quot;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:57:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rand</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294158</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;God himself couldn&apos;t sink that ship.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah, look out for those icebergs.  I hear they can put unsinkable ships on the bottom...

Lucky for them, there are not many icebergs hanging around in the Caribbean.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:23:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matthewr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294178</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;So, if you don&apos;t include the Knock Nevis, the new as-yet-unnamed Royal Caribbean ship will be the largest ever built.&lt;/em&gt;

I don&apos;t understand that list you link to. Presumably, in true Wikipedia style, it&apos;s just not finished yet (but doesn&apos;t mention that).

For example, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellespont_Fairfax&quot;&gt;Hellespont Fairfax&lt;/a&gt; is longer, wider, deeper, heavier and displaces more than the QM2. It doesn&apos;t appear on the list, though. The Times article suggests that the 2009 cruise ship will displace 220,000 tons - the Hellespont displaces 441,585 tons.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:44:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jikel_morten</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294184</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I&apos;ve never been on a cruise. But I tell ya, after spending countless hours planning all the flying, driving, lodging, sightseeing, and adventuring for a &quot;realxing&quot; vacation earlier this month I was damn tempted to shelve it all and sign up for a cruise.&lt;/em&gt;

I&apos;ve cruised once (our last vacation) and ever since, I&apos;ve been obsessed with going again.  Of course I don&apos;t have a lot of money and don&apos;t vacation much, so maybe we were a little vacation-hungry at the time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:01:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hildegarde</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294188</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I&apos;ve never been on a cruise. But I tell ya, after spending countless hours planning all the flying, driving, lodging, sightseeing, and adventuring for a &quot;realxing&quot; vacation earlier this month I was damn tempted to shelve it all and sign up for a cruise.&lt;/i&gt;

Sign up for a bus tour. Cheaper and more interesting.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:04:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joeforking</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294209</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;..there are not many icebergs hanging around in the Caribbean&lt;/em&gt;

It&apos;s colder there than you think. Why does Jamaica have a bobsleigh team?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:37:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: banishedimmortal</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294236</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;For example, the Hellespont Fairfax is longer, wider, deeper, heavier and displaces more than the QM2. It doesn&apos;t appear on the list, though. The Times article suggests that the 2009 cruise ship will displace 220,000 tons - the Hellespont displaces 441,585 tons.&lt;/em&gt;

I think, rather, that the new Royal Caribbean ship will &lt;em&gt;weigh &lt;/em&gt;220,000 tons, not displace it. The Hellespont, on the other had, has a net weight of around 160,000. I read elsewhere that the oiltankers displace more, but weigh less, especially when not loaded with oil. So I&apos;ll just settle with saying that it&apos;s the heaviest ship ever built besides the Knock Nevis...whatever, it&apos;s &lt;strong&gt;BIG&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:23:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: strawberryviagra</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294255</link>	
		<description>I like the idea of cruising the seas - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/freighterman.geo/mainmenu.html&quot;&gt;minus the 5000 other guests&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:37:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brundlefly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294288</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve always wanted to do that, strawberryviagra.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:17:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thirteenkiller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294335</link>	
		<description>banishedimmortal:

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.akerfinnyards.com/press.cfm?ID=260&quot;&gt;new Royal Caribbean ship&lt;/a&gt; will indeed have a gross tonnage of 220,000.  However:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://supertankers.topcities.com/id137.htm&quot;&gt;Here&apos;s another ship&lt;/a&gt; that&apos;s heavier than the new Royal Caribbean ship.  Note GT in the specs; that is gross tonnage.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://supertankers.topcities.com/id58.htm&quot;&gt;This one&lt;/a&gt; is also bigger.

A lot of the supertankers on that site are smaller than 220,000 GT, though. But not all of them.  It&apos;s hard to find them all because, unlike cruise ships, supertankers generally are classified by deadweight tonnage, which is their weight when fully loaded.  Still, the gross tonnage of the ship itself is listed on the site I&apos;m referencing, although  there&apos;s no way to sort the entries by that measure.  I just happened to find a couple to show you as examples.

Your wiki entry on the world&apos;s largest ships (by length) says right at the top: &lt;em&gt;[the list] appears to be erroneous, as there are a number of freighters on the Great Lakes that are 1,000&apos; long; length is an imperfect measure of a ship&apos;s size, regardless&lt;/em&gt;.

The Knock Nevis was used for many years as a supertanker; it was only recently converted to a storage facility.

But still, that cruise ship is gonna be really really big.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 20:03:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: strawberryviagra</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294336</link>	
		<description>Yeah - me too. It&apos;s an adventure I plan to undertake with my son one day.

It&apos;s that gradual momentum that delivers you to a new culture, through the gateway of a seedy port, that beats the crap out of any airport experience I&apos;ve ever had.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 20:03:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: josephtate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294345</link>	
		<description>Suggested reading for those considering going on a cruise: David Foster Wallace&apos;s &quot;A Supposedly Fun Thing I&apos;ll Never Do Again.&quot; The essay first appeared in &lt;i&gt;Harper&apos;s&lt;/i&gt; but is now in the book of the same title.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 20:20:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: strawberryviagra</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294346</link>	
		<description>What was the crux of his experience?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 20:24:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294351</link>	
		<description>matthewr: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_world%27s_largest_ships&quot;&gt;Fixed&lt;/a&gt;.  Obviously somebody missed one.

thirteenkiller: I have revised the list with a Wikipedia standard warning about such &quot;living&quot; lists.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 20:42:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cenoxo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294523</link>	
		<description>Counterpoint: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.famoussmallboats.com/Graphics/father1.jpg&quot;&gt;Hugo Vihlen&lt;/a&gt; in his 5&apos;4&quot; micro yacht &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0943400910/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Father&apos;s Day&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; was but a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maineharbors.com/octbk04.htm&quot;&gt;speck on the sea&lt;/a&gt; when he &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.svcn.com/archives/sunnyvalesun/20041027/sv-cover.shtml&quot;&gt;crossed the Atlantic&lt;/a&gt; in 1993.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:07:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Goofyy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1294567</link>	
		<description>So, everyone gets to stay in the presidential suite on this ship?  I think I could enjoy a cruise that included so much private space.  Maybe I missed something, my connection was too slow to wait for most of that. 

A cruise has some appeal to me. Lazy relaxation, no cooking or cleaning, lots of food and people watching. But then I get tired of it and want to be alone (or alone, with someone). Or I get bored and want internet. 

OTH, planned activities of fake excitement turn me off in a very negative sort of way. Schedules and holiday are nearly mutually exclusive, in my world. 

And these cruise-people don&apos;t sound much like the sort I&apos;d like. 

I may never actually try a cruise. I&apos;m far more inclined to get a captain&apos;s ticket and charter. But I&apos;d miss the lazy factor of the cruise.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:39:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1295141</link>	
		<description>That tour makes me want to kick something in the shins.

Also, is it just me, or does the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.expresstravel.lv/lv/images/Logo_royal_caribbean.jpg&quot;&gt;Royal Caribbean logo&lt;/a&gt; remind you of &lt;a href=&quot;http://classictvshop.studiostore.com/images/p/TFM/pdSTTFM0002.jpg&quot;&gt;the Decepticons logo&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:15:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eddie Mars</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1299600</link>	
		<description>Holy shit!
My wife was just hired to sing on the inagural cruise for this thing.  She gets a free cabin for the night, and $250 for 10 minutes of singing with the choir.  Nice little last minute gig.
After the singing she has free run of the ship with all amenities comped.  
For some reason they tried to play up the fact that Barry Manilow will be on board.  Seems that would repel most clasical singers.

I&apos;m trying to smuggle myself onboard with her.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 18:26:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: etoile</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51278/Freedom-of-the-Seas#1312929</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve done two cruises and have two more booked.  I never expected to become a cruiser, but it kind of grows on you.  I&apos;d still much rather do a land vacation, but as jacquilynne said, it&apos;s a nice middle ground.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 08:30:48 -0800</pubDate>
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