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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2001 10:59:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 5143</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.salon.com/people/conv/2001/01/08/mackaye/print.html"&gt;A Minor Threat to business as usual:&lt;/a&gt; A fine Q&amp;A with Ian MacKaye (Minor Threat, Fugazi) about the ethical, fan-friendly approach to music business at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dischord.com/&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dischord Records&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Obligatory MeFi disclaimer: It&apos;s a Salon link. 

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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2001 10:39:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jhiggy</dc:creator>		<category>salon</category>		<category>music</category>		<category>ianmackaye</category>		<category>fugazi</category>		<category>dischordrecords</category>		<category>interviews</category>
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		<title>By: Skot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/5143/#39389</link>	
		<description>I really do have to admire Ian MacKaye; he actually abides by the rules of his conscience, despite the fact that he could probably be a very rich superstar if he chose not to.  He walks the walk, unlike the dithering bullshit merchants of, say, Rage Against the Machine (&quot;We&apos;re so pissed off at corporate culture that we had to release a whole album with one of them!&quot;).

If Lester Bangs were still alive, I&apos;m sure he&apos;d happily include Fugazi in his fond compendium, &quot;A Reasonable Guide to Horrible Noise.&quot;

PS--The red link looks kinda cool on my end.  </description>
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		<dc:creator>Skot</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: J. R. Hughto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/5143/#39396</link>	
		<description>Nice interview.  It&apos;s hard enough doing the best you can everyday with your art, but bringing artists together, building a support community for those artists, dealing with the little details that can drive you crazy trying to bring it to an audience; it can really apply the pressure.  &lt;i&gt;Begin Shameless Plug&lt;/i&gt;:  I&apos;m helping start a &quot;Dischord&quot; for literature and such:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.paintedland.com&quot;&gt;Painted Land&lt;/a&gt;
It&apos;s even harder than it really looks.  MacKaye&apos;s the real deal.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2001 11:17:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>J. R. Hughto</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: thirteen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/5143/#39406</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t know anybody who has started a label that does not hope to follow in the tradition started by Dischord/Touch and Go. Many fine labels use that model, and do so with equal integrity drag City, Thrill Jockey, and MyPalGod are examples that come to mind.
I don&apos;t pray, but I used to go to sleep, hoping to live my life more like Ian MacKaye, Steve Albini, and Corey Rusk. That is embarrassing to say, and I hope my friends don&apos;t read that, but it is so true. Three men as unbending as any Ayn Rand character. Practicably archetypes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2001 11:39:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pnevares</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/5143/#39411</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I was pretty psyched about it, but mostly I was touched by the fact that this person would take time out to speak to me. So I just feel like I&apos;m returning the favor. &lt;/i&gt;

I can&apos;t contribute too much to the discussion, except to say that I met Ian MacKaye in 1998 and was amazed at how easygoing he was. Even though Fugazi was performing in a few hours, he talked to my friend and I like normal people. Very cool guy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2001 11:53:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MrMoonPie</title>
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		<description>Nothing really pity to add other than my own personal anecdote--
Fugazi does at least one free show in DC every year. My friends and I (all in corporate-branded polo shirts, by the way) saw them this year, at an outdoor venue. There was a thunderstorm brewing during the show, adding an un-buyable  lightshow. An excellent night out.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2001 11:58:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rorschach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/5143/#39420</link>	
		<description>Of the couple different venues that I&apos;ve seen Fugazi play, the &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.southern.com/southern/band/FUGAZ/fort_reno_97.html&quot;&gt;Fort Reno&lt;/A&gt; shows are definitely my favorite. They played another free show in D.C. this year as part of the &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.folklife.si.edu/&quot;&gt;Smithsonian Folklife Festival&lt;/A&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2001 12:29:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bliss322</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/5143/#39430</link>	
		<description>why does it matter that it&apos;s a salon link?  </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2001 13:28:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wiremommy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/5143/#39445</link>	
		<description>Skot: &lt;I&gt;He walks the walk, unlike the dithering bullshit merchants of, say, Rage Against the Machine (&quot;We&apos;re so pissed off at corporate culture that we had to release a whole album with one of them!&quot;).&lt;/I&gt;

I&apos;m really ambivalent about Rage. On the one hand, like you say, how can they be dangerous when they&apos;re on a Sony label? On the other hand, like KRS One said: &lt;I&gt;Every&lt;/I&gt; venue by which music reaches you is corrupt. Radio, TV, store shelves-- 99.9999% are all bought and paid for by corporations. If you can get a message through on those channels, you&apos;re ahead of their game.

Then I think about Ani DiFranco, who as far as I know is getting the good word out there, with impressive success, without resorting to signing with Sony. Or doing a Nike ad. So it&apos;s a tough call to make.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2001 14:04:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Skot</title>
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		<description>It&apos;s true, wiremommy, and I was probably out of line to single them out--it&apos;s a tough line to walk for any artist, I suppose.  I&apos;m an actor on the fringe theater scene, but I can&apos;t honestly say that if someone offered to pay me a pile of money to work in something ghastly like, say, &quot;You&apos;ve Got More Mail,&quot; I wouldn&apos;t take it.

I think what sets my teeth on edge about RATM is that I find their, well, &quot;rage,&quot; so completely pat and packaged that I can&apos;t take it seriously at all.  It strikes me mostly as an adolescent pose,  a shuck and jive that just happens to be executed several orders better than, to use another odious example, Limp Bizkit.  Just one dummy&apos;s opinion--I know a lot of people who love them.  </description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2001 14:15:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: punkrockrat</title>
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		<description>Out of all the musicians I have met in my life, hell, out of all the people I have met in my life, there are few that I respect more than Ian Mackaye.  

This was a great article.  It&apos;s too bad there are not more people like him in this world.  

For more Ian, check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://avclub.theonion.com/avclub3517/avfeature3517.html&quot;&gt;the interview he did with the onion&apos;s av club&lt;/a&gt; a few months back.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2001 20:51:56 -0800</pubDate>
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