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	<title>Comments on: I liked them so much better when they were The Cockroaches</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 11:43:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>I liked them so much better when they were The Cockroaches</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5414895"&gt;They&apos;re on NPR?&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/02/magazine/02wiggles.html?ei=5088&amp;en=d27772b7fecca51c&amp;ex=1301630400&amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss&amp;pagewanted=all&quot;&gt; They&apos;re in the New York Times?&lt;/a&gt; (archived &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rideforthem.com/wiggles.pdf&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; as a .pdf).  I guess it&apos;s no wonder - I can&apos;t go into half of the rooms at work without hearing them.  And they took in &lt;b&gt;$45 million&lt;/b&gt; last year singing &quot;Yummy, Yummy&quot;?  Yes, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thewiggles.com.au/&quot;&gt; i&apos;m talking about The Wiggles&lt;/a&gt;, a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wiggles#Current_Success&quot;&gt;pop-culture&lt;/a&gt; &lt;strike&gt;bitch-slap&lt;/strike&gt; gift from Australia that has apparently kicked Barney&apos;s ass.  That doesn&apos;t mean that they aren&apos;t open &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beingdaddy.com/archives/000669.html&quot;&gt;to some&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/147261&quot;&gt;well-deserved satire&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 11:41:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StrasbourgSecaucus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313300</link>	
		<description>Where do you work that the Wiggles are playing in half the rooms?  Abu Ghraib?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 11:43:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 2sheets</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313305</link>	
		<description>Oh my god. I came across this show while channel flipping awhile back and figured it was just some obscure low budget piece of crap.  $45 million? I think I&apos;ll throw up now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 11:47:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: geoff.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313306</link>	
		<description>So, for lack of better words (and pulling a Tony Snow) -- they seem kind of faggy to me. I saw them on TV and I was half expecting them to take off their shirts and start dancing to Whitney Houston&apos;s &quot;Watchulookinat.&quot; Well expecting or hoping I didn&apos;t know which.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 11:47:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: staggernation</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313307</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://nealpollack.com/archives/2006/04/#a000402&quot;&gt;The Wiggles Are Greedy Bastards&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 11:47:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: geoff.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313309</link>	
		<description>$45million Australian which is somewhere around 34 USD.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 11:48:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BlackLeotardFront</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313318</link>	
		<description>The kids at work (I&apos;m a preschool teacher) love the wiggles.  They seem awfully hammy to me, but so was Barney, and really, so was Sesame Street.  Kids&apos; entertainment is pretty weak these days, although the kids seem to be learning a lot from Dora the Explora.

And yeah, geoff, I get the feeling there are a lot of post-production afterparties with just the four of them and some bean bags.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 11:55:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ND&#xa2;</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313334</link>	
		<description>Apparently the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/48210&quot;&gt;DoodleBops&lt;/a&gt; are worse.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:02:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: poppo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313335</link>	
		<description>I am here to defend the Wiggles.

It&apos;s got a beat and my kid can dance to it.

It&apos;s catchy, it&apos;s positive, they play their own instruments, and write their own music.  

&lt;em&gt;The Wiggles Are Greedy Bastards&lt;/em&gt;

They&apos;re greedy for enforcing their copyright?   Come on.  All big artists want licensing fees.  Just because their audience is little kids doesn&apos;t mean they must live a life devoid of material gain.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:03:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313340</link>	
		<description>My wife (also a pre-school teacher) says that Wiggle-Mania has passed. Around here, anyway. The Wiggles went from being cool all around to only popular with the toddler group. But perhaps they can hang on to this key demographic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:06:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mayor Curley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: poppo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313344</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;only popular with the toddler group&lt;/em&gt;

suddenly, i&apos;m now worried that you will all think my kid is eight or nine.  he is two.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/trends?q=wiggles&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=all&quot;&gt;trends&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:09:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: poppo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313345</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/trends?q=wiggles%2C+barney%2C+dora%2C+teletubbies&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=all&quot;&gt;more &lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:09:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lexalexander</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313349</link>	
		<description>What ND&#162;  said: The Doodlebops make the Wiggles sound like Public Enemy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:11:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Armitage Shanks</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313357</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll forgive the Disney Channel all these crimes as long as they carry &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.charlieandlola.com/&quot;&gt;Charlie and Lola&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:15:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313363</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thewiggles.com.au/country/ukeire/concerts.html&quot;&gt;I think the Wiggles might see some IRA action.&lt;/a&gt; They&apos;re going to Dublin on their &quot;UK&quot; tour.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:17:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mayor Curley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mischief</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313370</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yummy Yummy&lt;/i&gt;? As in the Ohio Express bubblegum ode to oral sex?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:19:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Onanist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313371</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;So, for lack of better words (and pulling a Tony Snow) -- they seem kind of faggy to me. I saw them on TV and I was half expecting them to take off their shirts and start dancing to Whitney Houston&apos;s &quot;Watchulookinat.&quot; Well expecting or hoping I didn&apos;t know which.&lt;/em&gt;

I was at a dance party a few years back and was dancing next to Jeff from the Wiggles. He was with the well-known Australian music journo Molly Meldrum who is gay so you never know...

Anyway, I like the Wiggles, they come across as nice guys in interviews, etc, so good luck to em!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:19:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kimdog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313373</link>	
		<description>OMG! The Wiggles are soooo last week.  The cool three year olds are totally into &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.laurieberkner.com/&quot;&gt;Laurie Berkner&lt;/a&gt; now.  &lt;small&gt;In my opinion ANYTHING is better than that hell-spawn named Barney.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:20:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StrasbourgSecaucus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313392</link>	
		<description>I got the wiggles the other day after some bad Mexican food.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:30:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wallaby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313405</link>	
		<description>Don&apos;t forget their appearance on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W2dzhNyglo&quot;&gt;Kimmel&lt;/a&gt;. Eat your heart out, Barney and Dora! I think they&apos;re great. Sure, they&apos;re not my taste in music, but when the kids I know watch them, they&apos;re not vegetables--they&apos;re up and dancing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 12:37:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cdavidc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313447</link>	
		<description>Where in the world is Jerry Fallwell to save you parents from the media infiltrating your home and children with the sinfull homosexual agenda?

Oh well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 13:08:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kgasmart</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313448</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m with poppo. The Wiggles have been a great way to indocrinate my kid with the mid-&apos;60s British Invasion type sound that I dig, so maybe (maybe?) I can dissuade him from wearing his pants down his buttcrack and listening to the latest tattoo metal pinheads later down the line...

True story: I&apos;m standing in line at a Philadelphia Eagles game 2 years ago with 2 buds who also have kids, the conversation turns to the Wiggles and, the next line over, a guy turns around and says, &quot;I LOVE THE WIGGLES!&quot;

You can always tell the dads.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 13:08:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DWRoelands</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313451</link>	
		<description>I like the Wiggles well enough and think it&apos;s great that they&apos;re producing all this stuff for kids (and making some fine coin, to boot).  But they&apos;re stuff just grates on me after too long.

I like the Veggie Tales stuff because it&apos;s actually quite funny for adults as well as kids without being saccharine (Barney) or overly goofy (Wiggles).</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 13:09:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Biblio</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313479</link>	
		<description>Well this seems like the perfect place to repost this:
&lt;img src=&quot;http://network.news.com.au/image/0,10114,5122272,00.jpg&quot;&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 13:39:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CRM114</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313501</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Yummy Yummy? As in the Ohio Express bubblegum ode to oral sex?&lt;/em&gt;

That had never occurred to me. My eyes are opened.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 13:58:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: raedyn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313522</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;In my opinion ANYTHING is better than that hell-spawn named Barney.&lt;/i&gt; - kimdog

Have you seen Boobah? Have you lived with one of the Boobah&apos;s that make noise? *shudder*</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 14:15:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: raedyn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313529</link>	
		<description>(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/25287&quot;&gt;MeFi discussion of Boobah&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 14:18:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ulotrichous</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313545</link>	
		<description>The greatest thing about the wiggles is that it seems pretty clear that these 4 guys decided to bring in as many of their mates as they could as they started to hit it big, so they now have an entourage of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.entertainmentstore.com.au/wiggles.jpg&quot; title=&quot;Actually, some of them are probably women.&quot;&gt;guys in animal suits&lt;/a&gt;.  I also feel certain that &apos;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thewiggles.com.au/about/friends/captain.html&quot; title=&quot;Not to be confused with his archrival, Commander Limppenis&quot;&gt;Captain Feathersword&lt;/a&gt;&apos; was that guy&apos;s pre-wiggles nickname at the bar due to some oft-related incident, and it&apos;s now the ultimate act of manly pranking that they&apos;ve managed to make their buddy&apos;s secret shame common knowledge to every toddler in the english-speaking world.

The worst thing about the wiggles is their music.  Man, that shit just hurts.  Laurie Berkner is no better. Where is it written that young humans can only tolerate the sound of pablum?  Get these kids some &lt;a href=&quot;http://pancakemountain.com&quot; title=&quot;I can&apos;t decide who has more awesomeness: Captain Perfect, or Rufus Leaking.&quot;&gt;Pancake Mountain&lt;/a&gt;! 

However, Charlie and Lola (mentioned &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/51704#1313357&quot; title=&quot;Armitage Shanks, I could not agree more&quot;&gt;upthread&lt;/a&gt;) is truly fantastic, especially the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.throwingbeans.org/audio/charlie-and-lola-theme.mp3&quot; title=&quot;60 sec MP3, pure cutesy awesomeness.&quot;&gt;theme song&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href=&quot;http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendid=54012471&quot; title=&quot;Warning, myspace ahead.&quot;&gt;S&#248;ren Munk&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.throwingbeans.org/charlie_and_lola.html&quot; title=&quot;he blogs! I think&quot;&gt;Tom Dyson&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://http://www.soundofnorthwood.com/&quot; title=&quot;Apparently only these 4 songs, but they are pretty darn good.&quot;&gt;Northwood&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 14:27:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AgentRocket</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313609</link>	
		<description>The Wiggles rule.  It&apos;s catchy music by likeable fellows who write and play their own stuff.  The show has a very laid back, fun vibe to it.  They make silly jokes.  The animals aren&apos;t (too) annoying.  They make music that appeals not just to 2 year olds.  

My kid loves them, and it is way preferable to watching Mr. Noodle act for the 900th time like he doesn&apos;t know how a see-saw/bike/hat/umbrella/[whatever] works.  

Lights, Camera, Action, Wiggles.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 15:20:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Astro Zombie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313672</link>	
		<description>The Wiggles are yet more evidence that children have terrible tatse and should not be allowed to decide for themselves what they like. I mean, have you ever had a child pick out a wine for you? They always go for the sweet stuff!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 16:15:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nonemoreblack</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313699</link>	
		<description>Greg Page, the yellow Wiggle, has one of Australia&apos;s largest collections of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/tv/collectors/txt/s1594125.htm&quot;&gt;Elvis Memorabilia&lt;/a&gt;..

Murray, the red Wiggle, is a regular sight at indie rock gigs in Sydney..</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 16:47:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Burgatron</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313706</link>	
		<description>Some of them use to be in a rock band called &apos;the cockaroaches&apos; . Some how they started a kids entertainment group instead... are now the highest earning entertainers in Australia. And the blue wiggle owns a nice cafe near my house. His wife cooks good eggs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 16:58:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ColdChef</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313711</link>	
		<description>When we had our baby, I made my wife take a blood-oath: No Barney, No Wiggles, No Boobahs, No untold creepy crap that hasn&apos;t hit the shiny, squeaky light of day.

So, when we do watch TV with her, what do we watch? The Muppet Show. 45 episodes on DVD. She loves Beaker.

Of course, now I&apos;m afraid that when she gets to pre-school and her only cultural references are Lola Falana, George Burns, and John Denver circa 1979, she may become an outcast. If that&apos;s the case though, so be it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 17:05:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bystander</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313716</link>	
		<description>More Wiggly gossip...
Murray (red) lives in Newtown, a fairly :indie&quot; style suburb in Sydney&apos;s inner west, he bought one of the nicest houses there (good on him for not moving to the harbourside).
Before the Wiggles mega-bucks he taught my sister in-law music in her early childhood course at Macquarie uni.
Jeff is 50+, single, and still lives with his mum.

A couple of years ago my kids inherited an old wiggles CD from some friends with older kids. It was there first release from 1991 and it has a CREEPY FIFTH WIGGLE on the cover in a spotted shirt. For a long time my wife and I figured the others killed him and ate him as part of a bizarre deal with the devil to deliver their later success.

Disappointingly, Phil Wilcher recently popped up as a disgruntled Pete Best style figure &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stevedow.com.au/Article/article.asp?id=110&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/news/music/the-fifth-wiggle-speaks-out/2005/07/31/1122748516558.html&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 17:09:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quite unimportant</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313718</link>	
		<description>Maybe it&apos;s because im rotten on the inside, but the images of four grown men dressed in primary colors and lobotomy smiles freaks me out on roughly the same level as the live audience at an Oprah taping. I feel like they are going to eat me in my sleep.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 17:12:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sparx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313829</link>	
		<description>The purple wiggle always struck me as being on the nod.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 19:30:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Devils Rancher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313839</link>	
		<description>A bit of Wiggles trivia: Crowded House drummer Paul Hester appeared in some of their videos as the guy in the chef hat. I was pretty crushed when I found out that he&apos;d killed himself and that he suffered from recurring bouts of depression. He looked so happy in those Wiggles videos. 

I don&apos;t tolerate Wiggles bashing around our house, either. They saved my son from catching teh Barney.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 19:46:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Biblio</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313847</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;So, when we do watch TV with her, what do we watch? The Muppet Show. 45 episodes on DVD. She loves Beaker.

Of course, now I&apos;m afraid that when she gets to pre-school and her only cultural references are Lola Falana, George Burns, and John Denver circa 1979, she may become an outcast. If that&apos;s the case though, so be it.&lt;/em&gt;

We do the same thing here.  And the other day I heard my 6 and 11 year olds discussing Phyllis Diller.  I am so proud.  (And we homeschool, so they can talk about 70&apos;s celebrities all they like!)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 19:57:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pjgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313869</link>	
		<description>Anthony Field, the blue Wiggle, was named Cleo Magazine&apos;s Bachelor of the Year in 1999. Lusting after a Wiggle was &#8211; and is &#8211; just so wrong.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 20:19:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: celerystick</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1313904</link>	
		<description>I have thought for a long time there should be an SNL skit about them .... the next time they have Robert DeNiro as the host.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 21:14:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spirit72</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1314073</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Have you seen Boobah?&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah, I&apos;ve seen Boohbah. My first thought was &quot;Where do they come up with shows like this, and WHY didn&apos;t they make them while I was still smoking grass?!?!!?!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 05:44:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ben Grimm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1314725</link>	
		<description>The Wiggles and Blue&apos;s Clues are out of favor right now.  Dora is still okay.

Decent newer shows for toddlers:  Little Einsteins, Wonder Pets, the Backyardigans.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 15:13:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben Grimm</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Ben Grimm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1314727</link>	
		<description>Oh, also, I tried to expose my boys to Pee-Wee&apos;s Playhouse a few days ago, but it didn&apos;t take.  Guess you had to be there...

Hmm, maybe &quot;expose&quot; was a poor word choice....</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 15:15:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben Grimm</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Ben Grimm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1314730</link>	
		<description>Lastly, did anyone catch the Wiggles on Craig Ferguson&apos;s late night show a month or so ago?  Greg is pretty fat now, Anthony is mysteriously much thinner, and the other two are unchanged.  Did you realize that Jeff is in his 50s, much older than the other three....?

(I know too much about these dudes...)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 15:18:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben Grimm</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: PinkStainlessTail</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51704/I-liked-them-so-much-better-when-they-were-The-Cockroaches#1314734</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;The Wiggles and Blue&apos;s Clues are out of favor right now.&lt;/em&gt;

I&apos;m still angry that Blue can talk now. Very angry.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 15:25:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PinkStainlessTail</dc:creator>
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