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	<title>Comments on: UK UFO Files Released by Ministry of Defence</title>
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	<description>Comments on MetaFilter post UK UFO Files Released by Ministry of Defence</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 02:34:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>UK UFO Files Released by Ministry of Defence</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/FreedomOfInformation/PublicationScheme/SearchPublicationScheme/UnidentifiedAerialPhenomenauapInTheUkAirDefenceRegion.htm"&gt;The UK has released the secret UFO files&lt;/a&gt; held by the Ministry of Defence under the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foi.gov.uk&quot;&gt;Freedom of Information Act&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Their conclusion: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena exist but should no longer be monitored.  
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nsa.gov/ufo/index.cfm&quot;&gt;US UFO files here&lt;/a&gt; and Russian spottings &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/47971&quot;&gt;discussed here&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Time to break out the foil hats!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 02:28:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dogsbody</dc:creator>		<category>UFO</category>		<category>UK</category>		<category>FOI</category>		<category>tinfoilhat</category>		<category>UAP</category>		<category>Aliens</category>		<category>flying-saucer</category>		<category>paranoid</category>
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		<title>By: psychobum</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322801</link>	
		<description>if anyone deletes this thread they will in fact be the real aliens.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 02:34:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: slater</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322802</link>	
		<description>Tried downloading the &quot;Excecutive Summary&quot;, Adobe PDF Reader sez: &quot;File is damaged&quot;.

*dons tin foil hat*</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 02:38:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: loquacious</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322806</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Time to break out the foil hats!&lt;/em&gt;

You say that like you actually take yours off...

Oh, fuck. They got you, huh?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 02:45:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: missbossy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322807</link>	
		<description>downloads OK for me.... and all my martian friends</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 02:46:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TwelveTwo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322808</link>	
		<description>This isn&apos;t to plan at all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 02:46:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ori</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322809</link>	
		<description>the most disturbing thing about the execute summary is the inability of some high-ranking officials in her majesty&apos;s service to spell &quot;relevant&quot; (cf. the marginalia).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 02:49:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mikey-San</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322810</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Tried downloading the &quot;Excecutive Summary&quot;, Adobe PDF Reader sez: &quot;File is damaged&quot;.&lt;/i&gt;

Damaged by &lt;strong&gt;aliens.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 03:10:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mikey-San</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: IronLizard</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322811</link>	
		<description>No, &lt;strong&gt;aliens&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;wrote&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://&quot;&gt;it&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 03:11:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mikey-San</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322812</link>	
		<description>Who then &lt;em&gt;damaged it.&lt;/em&gt;

What are they up to?!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 03:33:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: EarBucket</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322814</link>	
		<description>It opens just fine for me.

They conclude (as far as I can tell) that UFOs are some sort of not-yet-quite-understood atmospheric phenomenon. Not aliens, and not worth studying further, as there&apos;s no military application.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 03:38:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: substrate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322828</link>	
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
They conclude (as far as I can tell) that UFOs are some sort of not-yet-quite-understood atmospheric phenomenon. Not aliens, and not worth studying further, as there&apos;s no military application.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&apos;s what we tell them to think.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 04:37:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Enron Hubbard</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322836</link>	
		<description>Not worth monitoring &lt;em&gt;as there&apos;s no military application.&lt;/em&gt;

That&apos;s because the Americans signed the exclusive technology contract with the Greys back in the late 50&apos;s.
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How did the term &quot;belief on UFOs&quot; come to automatically mean &quot;belief in space alien visitation&quot;, with all the attendant foil hat and trailer park baggage?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 05:18:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Enron Hubbard</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: spazzm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322838</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;That&apos;s what we tell them to think.&lt;/i&gt;

No, that&apos;s what they want you to tell them to think!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 05:28:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fleetmouse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322856</link>	
		<description>I bet the reptoids think you sarcastic guys are &lt;i&gt;real funny&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 05:55:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rolypolyman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322867</link>	
		<description>I poked around on that UK MOD Freedom of Information site and found there are more documents about UFOs than about the USSR, Soviet Union, and nuclear topics combined.  What&apos;s wrong with this picture?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 06:21:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jack_mo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322883</link>	
		<description>Funny, not long ago, the release of these documents would&apos;ve been huge news. Nowadays, if it isn&apos;t codified information about the supposed descendents of Jesus, no one&apos;s interested - remarkable that the current post-religion faith-requiring fad is &lt;i&gt;even sillier&lt;/i&gt; than the little grey chaps (in the sense that it&apos;s demonstrably paranoid drivel, rather than paranoid drivel that may or may not be true!).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 06:40:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: zaelic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322888</link>	
		<description>Finally. Now I can shed this annoying human skin I&apos;ve been wearing for the last fifty years!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 06:48:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zaelic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: matthewr</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322892</link>	
		<description>Presumably there are more FOIA requests for UFO stuff than USSR stuff rolypolyman?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 06:54:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: obeygiant</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322911</link>	
		<description>George W. Bush</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 07:29:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tomharpel</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322920</link>	
		<description>By keeping the debate focused on whether or not UFO&apos;s exist, questions of the nature of UFO&apos;s have been kept out of the public conversation. Do they exist? Yes, we knew that already. What are they? We haven&apos;t really begun to ask.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 07:37:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BeerFilter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322933</link>	
		<description>Who cares about some lights flitting about in the sky?

Everyone who knows anything knows that our planet only has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.soulwise.net/25h-cdn.htm&quot;&gt;little over 6 years left&lt;/a&gt;. Time will stop at the winter solstice, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=December+21%2C+2012+AD&quot;&gt;December 21, 2012 AD&lt;/a&gt;, when the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar&quot;&gt;Mayan Grand Cycle&lt;/a&gt; is completed. This explains why the government psychics can&apos;t see anything beyond 2012.

Come on, dogsbody. Get some priorities. ;)&lt;/font&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 07:51:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: moonbiter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1322953</link>	
		<description>I used to be interested in UFO trivia until I realized that even if aliens from another world were visiting Earth on the sly, it would have absolutely no effect on my life in any meaningful way.

Unless they blew up the Empire State Building or something dramatic like that &lt;small&gt;(and even then, there is nothing meaningful I could actually do about it)&lt;/small&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 08:17:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>moonbiter</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: zaelic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1323075</link>	
		<description>We used to have constitional rights. After 12/12/12 everything  changed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 10:51:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zaelic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: slatternus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1323517</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;What are they? We haven&apos;t really begun to ask.&lt;/em&gt;

Actually, lots of people have begun to ask, and come up with a fascinating spectrum of totally conflicting theories and speculations. That&apos;s the fun part. There&apos;s everything from &quot;They really are aliens from another planet&quot; to the cryptoterrestrial hypothesis ( advanced hominids who evolved here but who are so divergent from us we can no more comprehend or even apprehend their existence than gorillas can comprehend our existence). My personal favorite is that many UFO sightings and abduction experiences are the manifestation of various types of temporal lobe seizures. People with temporal lobe epilepsy exhibit, among other symptoms, feelings that they are being stalked by malevolent entities, missing time, and report awakening at night feeling surrounded by strange threatening intruders.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 21:01:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jack_mo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1323681</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;the cryptoterrestrial hypothesis&lt;/i&gt;

Ooh, that&apos;s new to me. I like it. Makes me wonder about those DMT pixies.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 05:23:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jack_mo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: longbaugh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1323699</link>	
		<description>Wow - the Mi-Go have really got you clutching at straws haven&apos;t they?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 05:56:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dreamsign</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1323883</link>	
		<description>Well there&apos;s always exposure to plasma, though that usually results in religious experiences.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 08:58:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dreamsign</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: moonbiter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1324673</link>	
		<description>&lt;q&gt;&lt;em&gt;Wow - the Mi-Go have really got you clutching at straws haven&apos;t they?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/q&gt;

If it&apos;s good enough for Majestic-12 ...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 22:06:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: salvia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51914/UK-UFO-Files-Released-by-Ministry-of-Defence#1324759</link>	
		<description>Yeah, rolypolyman.  And why is there so much thinking about totally &lt;em&gt;hypothetical&lt;/em&gt; life from &lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt; planets when endangered species blah blah...  Kinda like being pro-life and pro-death penalty, huh?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 01:09:14 -0800</pubDate>
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