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	<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 13:45:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 51925</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://a69.g.akamai.net/7/69/7515/v1/img5.allocine.fr/img_cis/images/festivaldecannes/img/photo/014517.pdf"&gt;&#0171;The silent queen of all that is snowy and pure&#0187;  &lt;small&gt;(.pdf)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;em&gt;I will never forget the first time I saw &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.festival-cannes.fr/perso/index.php?langue=6002&amp;personne=4363668&quot;&gt;Giovanni Pastrone&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s
extraordinary &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.math.nyu.edu/~crorres/Archimedes/Mirrors/Cabiria/Cabiria.html&quot;&gt;Cabiria&lt;/a&gt;... I wasn&apos;t quite
prepared for the sheer scope and beauty of this film. And I was
completely unprepared for having my sense of film history re-aligned. There are so many elements that we took for granted
as American inventions &#8211; the long-form historical epic, the
moving camera, diffused light. Suddenly, here they were in a
picture made two years before &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/griffith_d.html&quot;&gt;Griffith&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.filmsite.org/birt.html&quot;&gt;Birth of a Nation&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/em&gt; -- Martin Scorsese&lt;/br&gt;
It was the first film to be over three hours long, the first to use a moving camera, the first to cost 20 times the average cost of a motion picture; Pastrone took several elephants and hundreds of extras to the Alps, in the dead of winter, to film scenes that only lasted a couple of minutes
onscreen. He hired an ex-dockworker and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bfi.org.uk/features/galleries/cinemaitalia/beginnings_3.html&quot;&gt;turned him into one of the first action movie heroes&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maciste&quot;&gt;Maciste&lt;/a&gt;. And, he also created &lt;a href=&quot;http://xoomer.virgilio.it/paghirar/mont.1.jpg&quot;&gt;the first international marketing campaign&lt;/a&gt; of the history of cinema. The Americans were so impressed that Cabiria became &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0003740/trivia&quot;&gt;the first film to be ever shown on White House grounds&lt;/a&gt;. Last week, at the Cannes Film Festival, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.festival-cannes.fr/films/fiche_film.php?langue=6002&amp;id_film=4363446&quot;&gt;a beautiful, painstakingly restored version of this forgotten masterpiece&lt;/a&gt; has just been shown to the public.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 13:40:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>matteo</dc:creator>		<category>cinema</category>		<category>film</category>		<category>silentfilm</category>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51925/#1323215</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/cl-ca-125films21may21,0,1947872.htmlstory?coll=la-home-headlines&quot;&gt;The films that changed Hollywood&lt;/a&gt;

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DVD &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004Z4TJ/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (this is not the restored version, though)</description>
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		<title>By: IndigoJones</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51925/#1323218</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s been all downhill since the talkies came in.

Many thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 13:51:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51925/#1323220</link>	
		<description>Four-minute Quicktime clip &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.math.nyu.edu/~crorres/Archimedes/Mirrors/Cabiria/Cabiria_15.mov&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 13:53:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51925/#1323226</link>	
		<description>Great collection of links, matteo. That Archimedes site in the third link is great, and the idea of Maciste, an archetypical character who appeared in different historical eras in different films, is fascinating. (That &quot;marketing campaign&quot; link doesn&apos;t work, tho - care to let us know what it was or how to get to it?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 14:02:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51925/#1323228</link>	
		<description>ah, the link must have been MetaFiltered -- it was a massive .jpg of the film&apos;s beautiful French poster, taglines and all.
the intertitles had been translated into several languages during the film&apos;s shoot -- the more I read about the film (and much of it is in Italian, sorry) the more I am impressed at how modern its marketing campaign was</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 14:06:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: matteo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51925/#1323230</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;(consider that Pastrone had been the second violin of the Teatro Regio Orchestra, but he was also a certified accountant)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 14:09:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rumple</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51925/#1323248</link>	
		<description>Fantastic, thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 14:33:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mwhybark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51925/#1323252</link>	
		<description>Cool! (Crosses fingers for Puget Sound area screening)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 14:43:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51925/#1323260</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Actually, matteo, I get &quot;You don&apos;t have permission to access /paghirar/mont.1.jpg on this server.&quot; I backed up a bit, searched for &quot;cabiria&quot; and got to the image from &lt;a href=&quot;http://xoomer.virgilio.it/paghirar/figures.html?pmk=site_xoom&quot;&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt;. (&lt;a href=&quot;http://xoomer.virgilio.it/paghirar/mont.1.jpg&quot;&gt;Works on preview&lt;/a&gt;; let&apos;s see if it works on post).&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 15:04:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cenoxo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51925/#1323323</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://lasr.cs.ucla.edu/reiher/film_miscellany/silent.movies.html&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Silent Films - Are They Worth the Watching?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Yes, and if you watch &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; film with the sound off and don&apos;t get the story, it isn&apos;t working.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 16:28:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rougy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51925/#1323368</link>	
		<description>I would love to see this.  Wish NetFlix would add a branch of &quot;offbeat&quot; films to its library.  There really are a lot of great movies out there that have been all but lost.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 17:42:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tellurian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51925/#1323565</link>	
		<description>Great post matteo, as usual. Let&apos;s not forget though, that it may have been the first use of a moving camera but he didn&apos;t &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pyreneesguide.com/articles.asp?cID=56&amp;sID=395&amp;aID=1478&quot;&gt;invent&lt;/a&gt; it. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/50205&quot;&gt;Segundo de Chomon&lt;/a&gt; is credited with cinematography (special effects?). Nice to see him finally get a mention at Cannes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 22:49:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: roboto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/51925/#1324179</link>	
		<description>The video in the Segundo de Chomon MeFi thread above is borked &amp;amp; closed, so here is the unborkening: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLBNkJLVVZk&quot;&gt;Segundo de Chomon - Les  Kiriki (Acrobatas japoneses) 1907&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 12:30:34 -0800</pubDate>
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