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	<title>Comments on: Seeing is not always believing.</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:05:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Seeing is not always believing.</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.newyorker.com/archive/content/articles/060619fr_archive01"&gt;&apos;Twas blind, but now I see?&lt;/a&gt; &#8212; Virgil surgically regained his sight after nearly 50 years of blindness: &quot;&lt;em&gt;On the day he returned home after the bandages were removed, his house and its contents were unintelligible to him, and he had to be led up the garden path, led through the house, led into each room, and introduced to each chair.&lt;/em&gt;&quot; In the end, he and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.richardgregory.org/papers/recovery_blind/recovery-from-early-blindness.pdf&quot;&gt;others&lt;/a&gt; like him &lt;small&gt;[PDF]&lt;/small&gt; would have rather stayed in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.litrix.com/cblind/cblin001.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Country of the Blind&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;small&gt;(A happier ending was the more recent case of Mike Mays, previously posted &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/27894&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt;.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 01:59:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cenoxo</dc:creator>		<category>blind</category>		<category>blindness</category>		<category>see</category>		<category>sight</category>		<category>vision</category>		<category>restored</category>
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		<title>By: Zack_Replica</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342120</link>	
		<description>Wow, what an amazing, bittersweet story on an angle that I&apos;d never even thought to consider about that which I take (pretty much) for granted. Thanks, cenoxo.</description>
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		<title>By: Laotic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342122</link>	
		<description>Nice story.

The fact that cortical vision processing needs to develop in young age and if deprived of vision at that age, one will never properly regain it, seems to be &lt;a href=&quot;http://neuro.med.harvard.edu/site/dh/b50.htm&quot;&gt;a known one&lt;/a&gt;.

In this case, the man had had some eyesight in his early childhood, but another factor which definitely plays some role is his apparent inability to cope with changes.

I wonder what it would be like, though, to regain hearing after having been deaf for most of one&apos;s life, because while you can shut your eyes, you cannot well shut the ears. Anybody know of any such cases?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:14:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Laotic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Laotic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342131</link>	
		<description>...strike that &apos;inability to cope with changes&apos;. The guy tries hard enough, the brain is not just as plastic as it was in childhood. Fascinating how much trouble goes into image recognition.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:49:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: econous</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342135</link>	
		<description>Interesting stuff thx.

Only cochlear implants in young children &lt;b&gt;Laotic&lt;/b&gt;. Quite amazing to watch them react to this brand knew sensory stimulus, and even tho the first implants were crazily crude, just a few bits, the children developed regional accents! There are some audio examples of these implants &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hei.org/research/aip/audiodemos.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; when you consider that accents developed from the lowest quality of these the power of an enforcing loop becomes clear. Retinal implants are much rarer, experimental even, and only work with a trained mind, and intact optic nerve. Perhaps we shall see visual cortex transplants in the future for those that have never seen? Creepy?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:05:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: D J Robertstein</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342140</link>	
		<description>I bet his fiancee told him she was a supermodel</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:20:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>D J Robertstein</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Rhomboid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342147</link>	
		<description>That was a great read.  I was expecting a very sad ending as his health went downhill, but it ended on more of an upbeat note.

&lt;i&gt;Aside: What is it with The New Yorker and the spelling of &lt;b&gt;re&#235;xamine&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;re&#235;xpand&lt;/b&gt;?  Is that some kind of stylistic thing to which I&apos;m just not privy, or is it just like spelling cooperate with an umlaut?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:50:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scruss</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342150</link>	
		<description>Rhomboid, they&apos;re just &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/diaeresis&quot;&gt;diaereses&lt;/a&gt;; slightly quaint, but correct.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 05:16:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: diocletian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342173</link>	
		<description>That &lt;em&gt;Country of the Blind Story&lt;/em&gt; was well worth the read, thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 06:40:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cenoxo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342225</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://animatedspeech.com/Research/research_effectiveness_visible2.html&quot;&gt;Visible speech&lt;/a&gt; plays a crucial role in face-to-face communication, particularly among children. &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://scicom.ucsc.edu/scinotes/9601/Speech/00Intro.html&quot;&gt;Baldi&lt;/a&gt;&quot;*&#8212;and his commercial progeny &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2006/04/01/8372789/index.htm&quot;&gt;Timo&lt;/a&gt;&quot;&#8212;are computerized &lt;a href=&quot;http://animatedspeech.com/Research/research_science.html&quot;&gt;3D talking heads&lt;/a&gt; used as &lt;a href=&quot;http://animatedspeech.com/Research/research_science_sybmiotic.html&quot;&gt;visual speech tutors&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;small&gt;While the auditory signal alone is often adequate for communication, visual information from movements of the lips, tongue and jaws enhance intelligibility of the acoustic stimulus (particularly in noisy environments). Moreover, speech is enriched by the facial expressions, emotions and gestures produced by a speaker. For individuals who hear well, these visible aspects of speech are especially important in noisy environments. The visual components of speech offer a lifeline to those with a substantial hearing loss: Understanding visible speech can make the difference in effectively communicating orally with others or a life of relative isolation from oral society.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;*WMV of Baldi in action &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.animatedspeech.com/asx/PrimeTime.asx&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 08:54:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grapefruitmoon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342231</link>	
		<description>When &lt;a href=&quot;http://imdb.com/title/tt0132512/&quot;&gt;played by Val Kilmer&lt;/a&gt;, Virgil wasn&apos;t obese.

(That was a horrible movie though. The real story as relayed by the New Yorker is amazing and bittersweet.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:19:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StickyCarpet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342239</link>	
		<description>I remember a similar case, where the guy was all freaked out and overwhelmed by imperfections, like cracks in ceiling paint, that he never knew were there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:35:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342255</link>	
		<description>Poignant.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:06:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: econous</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342257</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;StickyCarpet&lt;/b&gt; that is a really interesting observation. From platonic mental perfection, to the gritty awkward &apos;reality&apos;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:11:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nonmerci</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342306</link>	
		<description>A compelling, tragic yet hopeful read. Thank you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 11:18:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zero Gravitas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342361</link>	
		<description>Anything by Oliver Sachs is always a wonderful read. I highly recommend all of his books. 

Didn&apos;t he also have a TV show for a while?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:00:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BrotherCaine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342370</link>	
		<description>To further StickyCarpets point.  Most of the people I know who are nearsighted have confessed to being slightly jarred by the sharpness of the imperfections of skin, etc. that they percieve when they first get glasses.  That&apos;s one of the reasons I don&apos;t wear mine.  I prefer living in a just slightly blurry world to one whose blemishes are so immediate and captivating.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:03:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cenoxo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342455</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I prefer living in a just slightly blurry world...&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/movie.html?v_id=15781&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Enchanted Cottage&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (1945) sentimentally illustrates the idea that &lt;em&gt;how&lt;/em&gt; we see is affected by what we &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; to see. It plays occasionally on &lt;a href=&quot;http://tcmdb.com/title/title.jsp?stid=2109&quot;&gt;Turner Classic Movies&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tcm.com/video/videoPlayer/?cid=64327&amp;stid=2109&apos;,&apos;Popup&apos;,&apos;650&apos;,%20&apos;475&apos;,%20&apos;auto&apos;&quot;&gt;trailer&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 13:23:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jann</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1342645</link>	
		<description>great article!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:19:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: etoile</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52359/Seeing-is-not-always-believing#1345430</link>	
		<description>Indeed, prelingually deaf individuals who receive cochlear implants must learn to hear just as Virgil and others like him had to learn to see.  As the article points out, it&apos;s not about the functioning of the body parts - it&apos;s about interpreting the received input.

Laotic said: &quot;while you can shut your eyes, you cannot well shut the ears&quot; - this is not quite true.  Something parents of implanted deaf children frequently forget is that when the implant is taken off, the child is still deaf.  Implanted children cannot hear and swim at the same time, or hear and take a shower at the same time, etc.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:20:05 -0800</pubDate>
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