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	<title>Comments on: Only the best teas earn black belts</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:46:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Only the best teas earn black belts</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://chineseteas101.com/kungfu_1.htm"&gt;Kung Fu Tea!&lt;/a&gt; Welcome to the complex world of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jcm.co.uk/catalogue.php?catID=459&amp;opener=0-197-271-459&quot;&gt;fine&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujian_tea_ceremony&quot;&gt;Chinese teas.&lt;/a&gt;  Unlike the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teapots.net/chado.html&quot;&gt;Japanese Tea Ceremony&lt;/a&gt;, Gongfu ceremonies are designed to extract as much flavor from the tea as possible.  Using &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.holymtn.com/teapots/yixing.htm&quot;&gt;tiny clay teapots&lt;/a&gt; to brew several small batches of tea, the leaves are coaxed into releasing all of their flavor.  While some these pots are &lt;a href=&quot;http://app1.chinadaily.com.cn/star/2005/0414/cu14-1.html&quot;&gt;highly prized&lt;/a&gt; and collectable pieces of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.terebess.hu/english/yixing1.html&quot;&gt;art&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oolongtea.org/e/index.html&quot;&gt;tea &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pu-erh.net/&quot;&gt;itself &lt;/a&gt;is the most important element.   (more inside)&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:42:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cubby</dc:creator>		<category>tea</category>		<category>China</category>		<category>kungfu</category>		<category>gongfu</category>		<category>yixing</category>
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		<title>By: cubby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345446</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pu-erh.net/sections.php?Choice=Green_Puerh&quot;&gt;Pu-erh teas&lt;/a&gt; are particularly amazing.  Like many kinds of wine, their flavor improves with age and they are often sold by vintage.  It can be difficult to find sources of good Chinese tea (at least in the States), but I have found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sevencups.com&quot;&gt;this site&lt;/a&gt; to be good.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.generationtea.com&quot;&gt;This one&lt;/a&gt; has a good selection of pu-erhs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:46:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cubby</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345447</link>	
		<description>You can also use the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teamap.com/&quot;&gt;Tea Map&lt;/a&gt; to find tea houses near you if you live in the States.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:48:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: three blind mice</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345452</link>	
		<description>Your Chinese style tea is good. But still. It is no match for my Japanese tea. 

&lt;small&gt;(read with lips moving out of sync with words.)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:51:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MrMoonPie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345460</link>	
		<description>Tea Map has a nice review of my favorite Chinese tea shop, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teamap.com/tearooms/ching_ching_cha_149.html&quot;&gt;Ching Ching Cha&lt;/a&gt;. It&apos;s a fancy, classy joint, but they didn&apos;t seem to mind when the MrsMoonPie and I came in in our bicycle gear.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:02:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gurple</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345464</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll plug my favorite tea shop, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.everythingtea.net/&quot;&gt;Everything Tea&lt;/a&gt;, in Snohomish, WA.  They&apos;re known for the care they take when shipping tea -- my sister-in-law had good luck ordering from them in Pittsburgh.

For the tea ceremony itself, though, &lt;a href=&quot;http://floatingleaves.com/&quot;&gt;Floating Leaves&lt;/a&gt; in Seattle is fantastic, and the main guy there is very knowledgeable.  They do both Japanese and Chinese ceremonies, I think.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:08:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: catchmurray</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345470</link>	
		<description>I like to Pu-erh tea.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:16:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: coffeespoons</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345471</link>	
		<description>Excellent! My dad brought me one of these clay teapots from China a few months ago and directions on how to prepare the tea, which I promptly forgot. I&apos;d been doing the &apos;rinse&apos; phase for several minutes instead of seconds. I never even thought of looking it up. And now I have a way to find more tea instead of sending him off to China again. Thanks cubby.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:16:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GuyZero</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345473</link>	
		<description>I prefer Indian and Sri Lankan, but there is lots of great Chinese tea. I visited Taiwan once for two weeks and was in tea heaven. Tea shops everywhere!

The Taiwanese version (I don&apos;t know if the variation is region or what) of the tea ceremony that I saw there was to use two cups per drinker: a taller, thiner one and a shorter, wider one. The tea was poured from the pot to the tall cup and then the drinker poured it into the short cup and then drank it. I assume  it was to cool the tea quickly as the water was always as hot as possible (as described in the linked article).

Anyway, great post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:18:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GuyZero</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345474</link>	
		<description>The wikipedia article mentions the tall vs short cups: the tall ones are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myfinetea.com/faq_images/twin%20cups.jpg&quot;&gt;aroma cups&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:21:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: j-dawg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345480</link>	
		<description>I tend to poo poo chains, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tenren.com/&quot;&gt;Ten Ren&lt;/a&gt; is a great source for Chinese teas. (Their shops are more impressive than their web site.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:29:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jiawen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345488</link>	
		<description>My favorite variety in Taiwan was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shanshuiteas.com/product.php?subCategoryID=7&amp;productCategoryID=2&quot;&gt;Jinxuan&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tea-taiwan.com.tw/list.asp?id=222&quot;&gt;tea&lt;/a&gt;. It&apos;s very light and smooth, with a nearly fruit-like taste. (But it&apos;s not fruit tea.)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bartea.com/chaju_index.php?select_class=%C0%FA%CA%B7%CE%C4%CE%EF&amp;select_prov=&amp;page_fy=1&quot;&gt;Some more funky teapots from history&lt;/a&gt;.

The way I saw it done in Taiwan, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://chineseteas101.com/kungfu_1.htm&quot;&gt;main link&lt;/a&gt; isn&apos;t nearly complicated enough. As it mentions in step 8, you&apos;re supposed to douse the pot and cups with hot water first. Also, it completely leaves out a major  implement. You should also have narrow, tall cups for the tea; these are snifters, basically, only used for smelling the tea and not for drinking. The first boiling (&#31532;&#19968;&#27873;) gets poured into the snifters, smelled and appreciated, then dumped out. And there are various other tools and things that I never really understood.

A friend of mine took me to Pinglin, in the heart of north Taiwan&apos;s tea country, one night. The moon was full, we were at the top of a hill looking down over kelly green terraced tea fields, and there was a reservoir at the bottom of the hill. The moon was so bright, the shadows were all sharp and it was almost like daytime. It feels like a dream in retrospect, but she remembers it too, so it must&apos;ve been real. Probably my strongest memory about tea in Taiwan.

&lt;small&gt;If this is Gongfu, it&apos;s only in the most general sense: a skill, a form of mastery. Nothing to do specifically with martial arts, that is.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:47:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jiawen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345489</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Shoulda previewed.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:48:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dios</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345504</link>	
		<description>Great post.  Thanks! This is a feast of information about one of life&apos;s pleasures.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:10:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fnord</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345514</link>	
		<description>This is an awesome post, and has prompted me to find a tea house in my city.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:22:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sprout the Vulgarian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345518</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d like to plug &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.necessiteas.com&quot;&gt;Necessiteas&lt;/a&gt;. I purchased some lovely yixing teapots from them as bridesmaid gifts, and they arrived in perfect condition in beautiful brocade boxes.

The prices are surprisingly low on many of them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:28:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: milovoo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1345608</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve had good luck with both &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rishi-tea.com/&quot;&gt;Rishi-Tea&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adagio.com/&quot;&gt;Adagio&lt;/a&gt;.
(there were quite a few other recommendations when I &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/6013&quot;&gt;asked&lt;/a&gt; a long time ago)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 11:58:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Earl the Polliwog</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/52447/Only-the-best-teas-earn-black-belts#1346363</link>	
		<description>My personal experience with online tea ordering has led me to two places, which I consider the best; &lt;a href=&quot;http://uptontea.com&quot;&gt;Upton Tea&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://specialteas.com&quot;&gt;SpecialTeas&lt;/a&gt;. Upton&apos;s selection is much wider, but SpecialTeas is the best for price, edging out Upton by a little. I&apos;ve found Adagio&apos;s selection not quite as good as either of the two and more expensive.

I can&apos;t wait to try some of the green puerhs... I&apos;d seen some sites on it before but never an actual store with the stuff for sale. As a total tea geek, this excites me a great deal. Thanks, cubby!

Also, looongtime reader, first time posting. Tea posts compel me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:45:01 -0800</pubDate>
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